Talk:Ocean Beach, San Diego, California

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The intro to this article seems pretty subjective, a NPOV would improve it's quality. --Paul E. Ester 05:38, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

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well yes, but i identified this page. most residents would i think.


Regarding the first paragraph not being neutral... if you have ever even been to Ocean Beach you would know that is populated by a more liberated class of people. Dreadlocks are a very very very very common site around here. If you don't live here there is no way you would know about this stuff and there is no way you would know that yes... that article is pretty neutral in its portrayal of Ocean Beach. It is the people of OB that are not neutral. The wiki on this is pretty damn accurate, although... the Arizona Club just shut down last month and is no longer in business... which is pretty damn sad.

[edit] Any citations for Ocean Beach, San Diego, California name?

Besides the current undocumented, unprofessional and unconventional convention of naming city community article names in Wikipedia according to the rather bizarre [[community, city, state]] format, is there any reason for this article to be named Ocean Beach, San Diego, California? In particular, are there any citations of official or common usage references to Ocean Beach with this convoluted name? I know that the name Ocean Beach has some ambiguity issues, so, again putting aside the oddball community-specific convention, and instead using the more standard Wikipedia convention for handling disambiguities, how about Ocean Beach (San Diego)? --Serge 01:07, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

That is the disambiguation style we use for landmarks instead of populaterd places, and would further confuse matters. -Will Beback 22:09, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
I'm sorry, but that's absurd. Discerning between communities and landmarks is gist for the text of the article, not the name. I just realized that the root problem with the current U.S. city/community unconventional "convention" is that it is an attempt to overload the name of articles with information that belongs in the text. What belongs in the name of the article is the name of the subject being covered in the article, not information about what it is. Information about what it is (city, community, landmark, person, concept, etc.) belongs in the text. Conventionally, the only exception to this (outside of U.S. city and community article names) is when there is an actual ambiguity issue (not a crystall-balled anticipation for one) in which case it is appropriate to use some minor disambiguation information in parenthesis. But the name, in this case Ocean Beach, is conventionally all that is outside of parentheses. --Serge 23:20, 11 August 2006 (UTC)


I am pretty new to Wikipedia so I don't know 100% how to do this, but I am a long time resident of Ocean Beach. Regarding the name of Ocean Beach... lets see here, there is a nice big sing that says Ocean Beach along Sunset Cliffs Blvd as you are entering the area. Or how about all the flags hanging from the lamposts that say Ocean Beach. Or maybe the big steel gate to the pier that says Ocean Beach. Or maybe the fact there is an Ocean Beach school and an Ocean Beach Public Library. Sounds like its the official community to me. Ryan R. OB, San Diego, CA

In order to insure the validity of Wikipedia, it is imperative that it remains unbiased. Your comments regarding John Small are certainly biased and have no place here. They’re other mediums to express your displeasure.

[edit] NPOV

I want to remove the last paragraph from the Economy section. It is clearly not NPOV.Tcpekin 01:35, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

Please don't claim "cleary not NPOV". If you were from Ocean Beach or ever lived in Ocean Beach you might have a different opinion. Have you considered that perhaps you are just ignorant and unqualified to comment on this topic?

I live in Point Loma. You, or the editor portray the restaurants as the evil empire. I deleted "monopolistic economic situation in Ocean Beach" from the last paragraph. Tcpekin 03:47, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

Point Loma is not Ocean Beach

You are right, but I went to school in Ocean Beach and spend a lot of time down there, either at the beach or just walking around.Tcpekin 03:54, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

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I am a 15 year old girl that has lived in OB my whole life. I currently don't see anything wrong with how the OB page is but I don't claim to know much about how to be politically correct. I would like to add a few things to the OB page but I don't know how. I know my grammar and spelling aren't the best so if anyone is willing to edit and upload these onto the Ocean Beach page I would be most grateful.


Besides Newport, Voltaire is the second shopping street with a few bars shops and our semi famous grocery store Ocean Beach People's Organic Food Market. It is a member-owned vegetarian consumer co-op that has been serving the community since 1971. The Co-op offers an extensive selection of organic produce, grocery, dairy, and bulk foods and herbs, as well as vitamins and homeopathics, cruelty-free bodycare, and aromatherapy products. It is San Diego's only community owned grocery store. They specialize in products that are organic, wholesome, minimally processed, cruelty-free, and environmentally safe.

Every Wednesday a farmers market is held on Newport Avenue. All different kinds of things are sold there, from fresh fruits and flowers, to jewelry, to clothes and handmade crafts. There is always music either from a band or someone trying to make a bit of money. Usually a combination of both. Food is also sold and it is a fun event to go to for some fun.


Sincerely,



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