Template talk:NoticeGoogle10
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[edit] Introduction from creator
This template is related in spirit to pages such as Wikipedia:Search engine statistics and Wikipedia:What Google liked, both of which are children of Wikipedia:Statistics. The intent here is to provide a ready label that reminds primarily editors of the high profile of an article, despite the fact that some estimates place fully half of all Wikipedia articles in the category covered by this template (see m:Talk:List of articles with a top-ten search engine ranking). User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 02:50, 1 January 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Usage
- For use on Talk pages only; do not put in the main article space
- should this go on the top or bottom of a talk page — at present I suggest the bottom (User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 03:18, 1 January 2006 (UTC))
- Takes two parameters, a search term and a date
- Empty syntax: {{NoticeGoogle10|_searchterm_|_date_}}
- Multiple terms: (example Talk:Pulmonary alveolus) if multiple search terms return the article in the top-ten, separate these with " (OR) "; if one or more terms that are closely related do not return the article in the top-ten, add these after all positive results after and separated by " (BUT NOT) " this is complicated but a workaround for lack of technical finesse
- The searchterm need not be the article title
[edit] Classes of articles where most articles are a top-ten hit
- each individual year in Category:Years; most 3 and 4 digit number searches in Google will return a year article in Wikipedia among the top ten hits, usually #1 or #2 for years after 1000
[edit] Problems with this template
- the number of search terms or phrases that result in a particular article's appearing in a top-ten search set are many. If the use of the template is restricted to one or two uses per article at most, it could lead to edit warring by parties who believe that one search term should be represented in preference of another - in other words, the template could lead to strife.
- as noted above, the number of articles that could be tagged with this template is large, which calls into question it's utility in general
- what is the significance of something appearing in a top-ten with a given phrase but not the article title? One can always devise a search engine query to retrieve the article desired at the top. The trick is in determining what search terms are likely to be repeated and which are unique; the utility of this template's message increases with the commonness of the search term.
- An example here is useful — the template was created following examination of search results for the term ("new moon" new year's eve) and the first application of the template was to Talk:New Year. None of the component search terms "new moon", "new year", or "new year's eve" return New Year as a top-ten hit; the query that detected it was designed to find webpages about the relationship between or significance of a new moon appearing on 31 December.
[edit] Is this template need?
As stated in the Introduction, this template might possibly apply to 1/2 of all Wikipedia articles. From my Google searches I would guess that it's probably close to 1/4 or 1/3, but still it is a significant percentage of the articles on the Wikipedia. I do not think this template is adds anything. BlankVerse 12:28, 1 January 2006 (UTC)
- Thanks for your opinion, which might well be the consensus one. I hope others weigh in with their thoughts as well. User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 16:10, 1 January 2006 (UTC)
I agree - although well-intentioned, I don't think this template is useful. I had to go through about 20 random articles until I found one that wasn't in the first 10 Google results. -SCEhardT 21:37, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
[edit] TfD nomination of Template:NoticeGoogle10
Template:NoticeGoogle10 has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for Deletion page. Thank you. User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 22:42, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
