Talk:Nose grease

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This article was nominated for deletion on 5 October 2006. The result of the discussion was keep.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Nose_grease&action=edit Added some fact tags to sections and a sources template to the article. The assertions about the uses for nose grease really need justification IMO. Anchoress 22:08, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

The beer foam is readily verifiable by anyone with access to beer and a nose. I have added a reference to Lyot's paper mentioning the use of nose grease as an antireflective coating. zowie 04:48, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

A) If it isn't referenced it's Original Research. Even if it's referenced it's still not necessarily encyclopedic. B) I read the first five pages of your reference, skimmed the rest and searched it for the word 'nose', and I didn't find anything about nose grease. Here's the link. Anchoress 08:31, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

Holy cow, you are right! I have seen the quote from Lyot (in English) in several places, and assumed it was in his description paper (just about the only paper of his that is in English). I'll have to look through his French-language stuff and see if I can find it. zowie 14:41, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

I found the original quote that piqued my interest -- it is in some notes I took at a conference several years ago. But you're right, Lyot's indexed papers in English (there are only three in the ADS) don't seem to have the actual reference. Likewise, I browsed through several of his French papers looking for "nez" and can't find it. I think, therefore, that the quote fails WP:V for the time being. I won't delete it quite yet as I'd like to do a little more asking around -- but if I haven't found anything by tonight I'll cut the quote out. zowie 16:31, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

Another development: Harold Zirin, in Astrophysics of the Sun (Cambridge University Press, 1988), p. 32, writes:

"Lyot solved the scattered light problem through a number of clever precautions. He seleceted an objective lens (O1) free of sleeks and bubbles and highly polished. By rubbing his finger at the side of his nostril and carefully spreading the noise oil over the lens, he obtained a surface free of static charge and dust. I personally always got a mess, which shows that the coronagraph business still has as much art as science in it; thus there is much dispute over the merit of the noise-oil treatment. The use of old diapers, washed many times, has its partisans."

(the emphasis is mine). Since Hal is still around, I'll contact him directly and ask where he found the information. (Zirin used to run the Big Bear Solar Observatory and will know). (Old diapers are useful because they have no phytoliths in them, unlike clean paper wipes or new fabric, and hence are soft enough not to damage optical surfaces) zowie 16:41, 5 October 2006 (UTC)