Talk:Northern Praying Mantis (martial art)

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[edit] Gathering of the 18 Masters: Historical or Legendary?

"Shaolin records document that Wang Lang was one of the 18 masters gathered by the Shaolin Abbot Fu Ju, which dates him and Northern Praying Mantis to the Song Dynasty (960–1279)."

Everyone's heard the legend of how Abbot Fu Ju gathered the 18 masters at Shaolin during the EARLY Northern Song Dynasty (960-1127). However, and I hate to say this, the dating for this gathering is incorrect! This "Fu Ju" is actually a legendary persona of the real Abbot Fu Yu (福裕) who lived from (1203-1275), towards the END of the Southern Song Dynasty (1127-1279).[1] He was given posthumous names and titles by Kubla Khan after his death. This means, the gathering either took place at the end of the Song Dynasty or not at all!

Plus, I've seen a list of the 18 masters and their skills and some of them were bandits from the Water Margin novel. You would think that most of them would have been long dead by the time Fu Yu was appointed abbot and gathered the masters.

Although the quoted paragraph is non-descript in its detail about the exact time the gathering took place, the dating discrepancy should be addressed in the article. All viewpoints should be covered. (!Mi luchador nombre es amoladora de la carne y traigo el dolor! 18:24, 11 September 2006 (UTC))