Talk:North River (New York-New Jersey)
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the debate was 'no consensus. —Nightstallion (?) 08:19, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
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- Strongly oppose. The use of "North River" for the Hudson is common enough in literature that a large proportion of the readers will be looking for an explanation of the name. Let's give it to them. Septentrionalis 06:20, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
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The other rivers mentioned in the dab are
- Several redlinks
- Three stubs on tributaries in English-speaking countries
- One stub on a river near Hong Kong, which suggests that common usage, even in Hong Kong English, is to use the Chinese name.
Of these the primary sense is clearly the Hudson. Septentrionalis 06:20, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
At the moment, East Coast, West Coast, and Southside are all disambig pages, through plenty of references in literature would support use of those titles for the articles (or portions of articles) East Coast of the United States and even East Coast hip hop, West Coast of the United States or West Coast hip hop, and Neighborhoods_of_Chicago#South_side. East End is a disambig page. East Sea is a redirect to a dab page. Many generic names are used locally without qualifiers, such as The City or the airport, but in an encyclopedia the entry name needs to be specific. This is especially so since WP English covers subjects in the English language globally. -Acjelen 23:24, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
Further evidence in support of moving this article: Downtown (a redirect to Central Business District) and Chinatown are articles about central business districts and chinatowns in general, though most instances in literature are to specific chinatowns. Upstate is a disambiguation page. -Acjelen 02:14, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
Although I'm principally in favour of moving this, there's no consensus currently. —Nightstallion (?) 08:19, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.
[edit] Should be moved
I did not know the debate was going on - I strongly support making this page a disambig, and moving the current article to North River, New York. This name merely welds a map coordinate to a common geographic formation, like West Coast, South River, or East Valley. It should be a disambiguation page. BD2412 T 18:04, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
I support moving as well. It would be different if this North River were clearly well-known outside the New York and naval communities, but it's not. It needs to have the same weight as the other North Rivers. (Will stop disambiguating for now, though.)Ken Gallager 19:31, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
Also note that there are now 22 North Rivers listed on the disambiguation page, with 17 linking to articles. Many of the North Rivers listed are 40 miles long or longer. Ken Gallager 15:28, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
- I'm o.k. with a move to disambig and thanks for your efforts include the other rivers. I wandered in here when I was trying to figure why The Titanic reports listed the North River. I was astounded to see that the number one choice was here! Americasroof 16:14, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
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- I notice the original proposed disabig was North River (Hudson River). I would prefer that name as more precise and logical (and easier to remember). Americasroof 16:19, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
