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Welcome!

Hello, Nobunaga24, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are a few good links for newcomers:

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[edit] American, Interrupted deletion

As someone associated with the 1st Armored Division, and someone who has read the book, it's confusing that you would suggest the article be pulled. The soldier's site has an online museum, the book is available for free online, and there is a great deal of information that will one day formally be recognized as solid history. His story is a solid one, the press has covered it, the material on the site is a goldmine for research. I especially found it odd a military man would censor the soldier's article on the grounds that he is promoting a book. This soldier is working hard to share his knowledge. It seems no good deed goes unpunished. RBJ retired Colonel—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 84.58.53.122 (talk • contribs) 02:23, 8 April 2006. (AKA Dan Thompson - next time, if you impersonate a retired colonel, at least write the title correctly. I think a retired colonel would know how.)

  • a) My @$$ you are a retired colonel b) I fully believe you are Dan Thompson c) it's pretty obvious the editor, you, have a book to sell d) the book is in no way relevant to the sites it keeps getting posted on other than Iraq is the common denominator e) The trail on this made it blatantly obvious that there was an agenda to hype a book. f) If the book goes beyond the self-published stage, Eurotrotter, then maybe it would be worthy of inclusion. As of now, it's not.

You seem very confident of yourself. Quite disappointing; censoring the soldier despite the unusual perspective he offers. Maybe you misunderstand the spectrum of topics his book really tackles. He donates sales to charity, and again, the book is free online. Because of your hawkishness, people who visit the 1AD listing won't see his site listed, which contains quite a bit of information. He did, by the way, become a Foreign Service Officer (which explains why he never sought a publisher) and I doubt he needs to push sales of a book. I won’t pretend to hope you believe who I really am. Look at the content of the website.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 84.58.59.122 (talk • contribs) 02:49, 8 April 2006. AKA Dan Thompson

  • It's not censorship, Danny. Who has prevented the novel from being published? No one. Not giving you free advertising is not censorship. The article says its a novel, then you say it's valuable history. Which is it? Unusual perspective? That of a corporal on the ground? "Maybe you misunderstand the spectrum of topics his book really tackles" - discussing or mentioning is not tackling. "I won’t pretend to hope you believe who I really am" - makes no sense, but then again, colonel, maybe you are a West Point grad. I'm not even going to discuss this anymore because I think you are trolling at this point. The votes for deletion pages says it all. Nobunaga24 00:33, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] "veterans of other conflicts" deletion

Copied from User talk:DESiegel):

I think the category should be given a chance. It's only been an hour. As long as the category is limited to people famous for something other than the military, I think it would be quite manageable. If it does go out of control, then yes, it should be deleted. Thoughts on the subject?

Nobunaga24 00:37, 4 February 2006 (UTC)

First, it's not a category but a list. There is a significant difference. Secondly there is strong feeling against "list of notable" titles for articles. Thirdly, the majority of famous people in history have been involved in some military, sometime or other, so this potentially becomes "List of famous people". For example, virtually every Roman emperor (at least all the earlier ones) would qualify, as would most middle ages rulers. Socrates, would qualify, as would Plato, and most other famous figures from classical Greece. And so on and so on. Fourthly, and finally, the "Proposed deletion" process says that if even ONE person objects, the process halts for that article -- although it can of course be put on WP:AFD. And by they way, in the title "other conflicts" -- other than what? DES (talk) 00:45, 4 February 2006 (UTC)
The list is a sublist of List of military veterans, so the other refers to people who don't fall into the lists such as WWI, WWII, Vietnam War, etc. The link for "other conflicts" had been red for at least a couple months, so there hasn't been a huge groundswell of people wanting to populate the list. I think maybe it should be WP:AFD then, but being relatively new here and not having done it before, I've no idea how to do it, or if removing your tag and replacing it would violate wikipedia ettiquite. Please advise.....Nobunaga24 00:59, 4 February 2006 (UTC)
There is really no such thing as a "sub-list" particularly when the list doesn't even link back to the "main" list. Adding such a link might give useful added context, but the article (and lists are articles) must really stand or fall on its own.
As to ettiquite -- WP:PROD is a brand-new process, just in use today. The process page explicitly says that anyone who objects to the deletion, particuarlly if that person also edits to remove or address the objections, can remove the tag. You are free to do so, and it is not insulting or wrong in any way. if you do so, i could list on Afd, if I choose to -- I haven't yet decided if I will. But I will NOT simply replace the PROD tag. On AFD anyone can discus and express an opnion. You could also start a discussionm on the article's talk page. DES (talk) 01:07, 4 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] U.S.

According to the manual of style article titles should not have the abbreviation U.S. in them. The reason they are not all the same is that I'm not done yet, but they will be consistent. This is a wikipedia initiative and an effort to bring all article with abbreviations in the titles to their unabbreviated forms. If you diasagree with the MOS, please, make an effort to change it. pschemp | talk 00:36, 3 March 2006 (UTC) Even better, it would be helpful if you decided to participate and help with the de-abbreviating. Then the job would get done faster. pschemp | talk 00:40, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

I just looked at the Military Project and couldn't find a discussion there....could you link me? And I think this is more a, "let's use the formal name in the article title" and keep the abbreviations in the article for readability sake. However, search isn't working right now so I'm kind of stuck of finding what I'm referring to. All other articles, elections, senate, government, politicians, etc. have been changed over already. I'm thinking of a larger consistency here. (Oh and its not just me doing this. ) pschemp | talk 01:01, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
Well, before you wash your hands of, I'd really like to read the previous discussions, at this point, its not too late to undo if a good reason presents itself. I really tried but couldn't find them, so if you know where they are, I'd appreciate it. pschemp | talk 01:26, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
I've reverted anything I thought might be controversial. enjoy. pschemp | talk 09:47, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Beer in Japan

Hi,

As the only other "Beer Drinker Wikipedian" who is also in Japan, I would like extend my greetings. I was also wondering if you also participate in beeradvocate.com or other beer related sites? Naerhu 02:05, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Islam in Japan

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_in_Japan This article was obviously written by a Muslim for Muslims. Do you think that we can clean this up so that it would be more readible for non-muslims.

[edit] Keith R. Wood & Critic-at-Arms AfD

I see you tried to fix Sandstein's AfD of these two articles. However, since Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Critic-at-Arms was already listed on the 03-March page, it shouldn't be duplicated on the 04-March page. Also, since it's a combined nomination, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Keith R. Wood doesn't need to be listed (especially since it doesn't exist). I know you weren't the original nominator, but you might want to look at Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion#How_to_list_multiple_related_pages_for_deletion. Instead of editing the template on Keith R. Wood, you needed to replace it with the {{subst:afd1|PageName }} template. I fixed that and edited the title AfD title to clarify it's for both pages. I doubt this was coherent so let me know if you have any questions. -- JLaTondre 01:41, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] For you

Seeing as how you have been working you ass off on the US military project I thought I'd throw this your way as a sign off appreciation. Keep up the great work. --Looper5920 04:20, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

This motivated barnstar is given to Nobunaga24 for his tireless contirbutions to the US Military Task Force. Presented by Looper5920 20 March 2006
This motivated barnstar is given to Nobunaga24 for his tireless contirbutions to the US Military Task Force. Presented by Looper5920 20 March 2006

[edit] Cranky

Just wanted to say that if I'm sounding cranky at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Yuko Aoki I'm sorry. Any fondness I have for japanese bikini models aside, I just get frustrated with AfDs that end with a slew of "keep and cleanup" or something similar and none of those voicing that opinion actually do any cleanup. With something like this where it's more "keep and add references" I go bananas because if the citations were there than the whole thing would be moot. Anyway, I'll climb down off my high-horse now, thanks for letting me vent.
brenneman{T}{L} 05:59, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] war people and veterans

1) Good, I like what you wrote as the purpose of American World War II people, but what about the purpose of American World War II veterans (not exact category names, sorry). This purpose includes ALL Americans in uniform during World War II. Should this purpose be also changed or should the category links be changed (surely a lot of work) or what? Perhaps some people could be in both lists: a veteran is a veteran regardless where served (purpose remains as written) and the People purpose would remain as written. 2) same questions regarding American World War I people and veterans category purposes and contents 3) same questions on other wars. 4) see my talk comments in some of these categories. 5) Thanks. Hmains 16:58, 24 March 2006 (UTC)


It's hard for me to choose which category sometimes. A good example is Sam Walton. He was a captain during WWII, but never left the US. Is he a WWII veteran? Some people say yes, some say no. Even better examples are Warren Christopher and Richard Nixon. They were a) in the military b) in the theater of operations c) never saw combat. I would say yes, but some people would say no. My rule of thumb has been if they were 1) awarded medals for gallantry; 2) were lower ranking than general; 3) in theater; 4) killed in combat; or 5) were primarily involved at the tactical level, then I categorize "veteran." If they 1) served stateside 2) are flag rank 3) involved primarily at the strategic level, then I say WWII people. Curtis LeMay is a good example of overlap - he was a general, and did strategic planning, but he was also a tactical commander, and even participated in bombing raids, exposing himself to combat when he didn't have to. That certainly conveys veterans status on him in my mind, so I think he should be put in both categories. Nobunaga24 00:23, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

Do wikipedia articles always have enough information to make such distinctions? Is the average editor going to be able to figure this out? Will other editors always be second-guessing the previous editor? Where would a private, sergeant or captain who served in a supply company in Kansas fit? A respectable 'veteran'; a respectable 'people'. There may be millions in fact; hundreds in Wikipedia. Thanks Hmains 00:38, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Military history WikiProject Newsletter, Issue I

The Military history WikiProject Newsletter
Issue I - March 2006
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Welcome to the inaugural issue of the Military history WikiProject's newsletter! We hope that this new format will help members—especially those who may be unable to keep up with some of the rapid developments that tend to occur—find new groups and programs within the project that they may wish to participate in.

Please consider this inital issue to be a prototype; as always, any comments and suggestions are quite welcome, and will help us improve the newsletter in the coming months.

Kirill Lokshin, Lead Coordinator
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  • Proposed guidelines for categories of military people are currently being discussed. A number of issues have already been resolved, but the proposed scheme is still in draft form and further input would be very welcome.

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[edit] Infobox

There is a consensus discussion on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Aircraft#Infobox Aicraft consensus discussion on adopting a non-specifications summary infobox for aircraft articles. Your comments would be appreciated. Thanks! - Emt147 Burninate! 18:38, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] RE: Forefathers post you deleted

(The "history" tab at the top of the page can be used to determine who posted a comment if they forget to add a signature.)

The below comment was posted after viewing a deletion from the Thoughtcrime page by IP 69.253.203.169 which was though initially to be you. The question arose after visiting your user page and briefly reading about your heritage. Although the question may appear confrontational it is not intended to be. Your answer or lack thereof will help me to interpret the information you have provided on your user page more accurately. Thanks. Patrick Eberhart (7th generation SAR)

"Can you tell me if you have any forefathers who fought and died in the American Revolutionary War and which side they were on?"

PCE 07:41, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

  • Well, first, I am not at that IP and whatever edit was made wasn't by me. I'm not sure how you arrived at that conclusion, but after looking at your edit history, I did look at the thought crime article. As far as I'm aware, no ancestors died in the Revolutionary war. The first Irish ancestor, Nathaniel Scott, came to the US in 1790, and the majority of immigrant ancestors arrived after that date, most recently in 1930, except for some English who arrived in Virginia in the mid 1600s (no idea if they fought or not), and the Dutch in New York at about the same time. Once again, I don't know if any of them fought. --Nobunaga24 08:07, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
  • Thanks for your reply. As I recall I visited your user page just prior to determining that the above IP address was part of a Mt. Laurel, NJ Comcast block with the user most likely in Delaware. Even though I am not far from my ISP I've had an account with an ISP at a distant location. For the moment I am unable to trace the source of the link that took me to your user page although I recall it being on a "Difference between revisions" page in connection with some deleted edit which may have been unrelated to Thoughtcrime or the Thought Police articles. I'll continue trying to pin it down so we can both have a full explanation. -- PCE 17:33, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
  • Okay here it is: 21:34, 29 March 2006 (hist) (diff) Charles Graner ==> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Charles_Graner&diff=prev&oldid=46067236 Apparently IP 69.253.203.169 edited your edit of Charles Graner and I clicked on your user name as a starting point to pin down the ID of IP 69.253.203.169 and to get a feel for the kind of stuff he/she was editing. I read your user page and became curious about any possible Revolutionary War affiliation. -- PCE 17:59, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

Hehe, ok, now I understand. No problem. Incidentally, what is yours - Revolution affiliation that is. --Nobunaga24 14:03, 29 April 2006 (UTC)

The most famous is Colonel Arthur Forbis. My aunt who lives in Boston kept all of the paperwork upon being certified as a DAR. Rev. George McNeill 1720-1805 (Preached to troops on march to King's Mountain) is my great, great, great, great grandfather. I know there is a Kerr in there and whole lot of others but its only of occasional interest now since I don't live near the battlegrounds anymore. When I did it was almost impossible to think or talk about anything else. I do my best to stay out of the way. What took you to the Graner article, may I ask? -- PCE 21:19, 29 April 2006 (UTC)
  • If I remember correctly, it was probably to add the category of either US Army soldiers or Iraq War vets. --Nobunaga24 12:16, 30 April 2006 (UTC)
Do you know of a way to find any possible connection between Graner and one or more of the Bay County Juvenile Boot Camp guards believed responsible for the death of Martin Lee Anderson? I'm curious because replacement of staff could keep Florida from loosing its boot camps if such staffs are responsible for the problem. -- PCE 01:36, 1 May 2006 (UTC)
I've really no idea - my interest in the Graner article was solely in adding the categories. Aside from knowing of his involvement in Abu Ghraid and his civilian job as a prison guard, I know nothing else about him --Nobunaga24 01:38, 1 May 2006 (UTC)
Well its not up to me anyway to pin down a connection even if one exists but if there is a connection and knowledge of it will keep Florida from loosing its boot camps then I hope it will be found. -- PCE 01:44, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Military history WikiProject Newsletter - Issue II

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[edit] Edward Meyer

Hi Nobunaga24! Thanks for letting me know about Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Edward Meyer. You can use {{db-repost}} with a note on the talk page or {{db|CSD-G4 - see [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Edward Meyer]]}} on this type of article, rather than a redirect to the originally deleted article and asking for CSD-R1; this saves time for the deleting admin. Thanks! ➨ ≡ЯΞDVΞRS≡ 22:33, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Jack L. Tilley

A tag has been placed on Jack L. Tilley, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done because the article is a repost of either already posted material, or of material that was previously deleted under Wikipedia's criteria for speedy deletion. If you can indicate how Jack L. Tilley is different from all other articles, or if you can indicate why this article should not be deleted, I advise you to place the template {{hangon}}, and also put a note on Talk:Jack L. Tilley saying why this article should stay. An admin should check for such edits before deleting the article. Feel free to leave a note on my talk page if you have any questions about this. Please read our criteria for speedy deletion, particularly item 11 under General criteria. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself. We welcome your help in trying to improve Wikipedia, and we ask you to follow these instructions.SDS 15:28, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Włodzmierz Krzyżanowski

Thanks for catching that. I was so fixated on the diacritical marks that I didn't notice the other spelling difference! Hal Jespersen 14:37, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Image:Battleship Fuji.jpg

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[edit] Arthur Lichte

Thanks for sorting out that link on the page for Arthur Lichte Dolive21 11:08, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Military history WikiProject Newsletter - Issue III - May 2006

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[edit] Lloyd M. Bucher reverted

Hi, you reverted the anonymous removal of a paragraph in the article about Lloyd M. Bucher, saying that it should be discussed first. However, I have had an outstanding question on the talk page about that paragraph for more than a month, and no one has been able to clarify it. Besides Wikipedia aims for verifiability, not truth. I think it would be ok to remove the paragraph. But, no, I wasn't the one who removed it. Mlewan 08:24, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] MG Galen Jackman

Hi, I noticed that you've added some categories to Galen B. Jackman so I'm hoping you've read it over at least once or twice. This is something I've been working on since October and I've been trying to gradually make it better, obviously. I'd like your input on something quickly if you don't mind helping me out. I just added a military person infobox to the front page (I'm still working on getting more details to add to it) and I have a question about the decorations section. Should I pare down the list or leave it as is? And if I leave it as is, is it still appropriate to have a section within the article outlining the same awards and decorations word-for-word? Seems redundant to me, but I don't want to remove something that others would view as essential to the text. I'm also going to turn the education list back into a paragraph--should I do the same with the other lists or is it more readable the way it is? Thanks for taking the time to look at it. ScreaminEagle 17:35, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Operation Linebacker

The user has taken your vote comment and started posting on that page. --zero faults |sockpuppets| 12:57, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Fact Checking Please

Nobunaga San, thanks for two cool pages (the 525 MI and the 519 MI). Please check your sources on the Carolyn Wood situation.

You state in your contribution that she was the Company commander for A Co, 519th MI Bn (TE) (ABN) during OIF I. Can you please provide to me, the source of that information? The name of the CO for that time frame is not CPT Wood.

Thanks,

user:jerry.mills (OIF I)

Sorry to disappoint you, but I was not the person who contributed the info about Carolyn Wood. In the 519th article, that was put in by the creator. I haven't looked at the 525th history, but in that one, too, I did not add her name. --Nobunaga24 15:20, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks Nobu. This just shows I better learn how to use wikipedia.org a lot better.

Have a great day,

user:jerry.mills

[edit] Military history WikiProject Newsletter - Issue IV - June 2006

The June 2006 issue of the Military history WikiProject newsletter has been published. You may read the newsletter, change the format in which future issues will be delivered to you, or unsubscribe from this notification by following the link. Thank you. Kirill Lokshin 05:38, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Harvardlaw

Got it. -Will Beback 03:18, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Arthur Lichte‎

Thanks for fixing that link on Arthur Lichte‎.Dolive21 11:16, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Bushido Userbox

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[edit] Military history importance ratings

Since you've been doing a lot of importance ratings lately, I was wondering if you could perhaps comment on the proposed clarifications to their descriptions? Thanks! Kirill Lokshin 12:41, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Military history WikiProject Newsletter - Issue V - July 2006

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[edit] Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history Coordinator Elections!

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Might I be so forward as to suggest that you run for the position? :-) Kirill Lokshin 00:26, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
We actually debated this point and decided that informal prodding was better than formal third-party nominations ;-)
One point I think you might have missed: we have seven open positions. Regardless of whether I stay on or not, there's a definite need for more people; given that I think you're an excellent candidate, I hope you'll put yourself forward. Kirill Lokshin 02:42, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
I was just coming over here to ask if you would run for a coordinator position and I find Kirill has beat me to it! When the elections were suggested your name immediately came to mind. You've been very patient with my questions in the past, and you've also proven to be extremely knowledgable and approachable. I would heartily endorse your nomination should you choose to run. And hey, if you've got so much time to kill, why not? --ScreaminEagle 20:43, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
*blush*, ok, I'll throw my name in for an assistant coordinator. I think I'll get at least 2 votes now, hehe--Nobunaga24 01:22, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
Looks like somebody went ahead and nominated you, too; you might want to accept the nomination or something :-) Kirill Lokshin 00:18, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
Oops, forgot to add my name yesterday--Nobunaga24 00:19, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] standards for differing opinions

oldwindybear asked me for my opinion on this topic after we had a discussion. he told me you were working on the issue and I should publish my point of view:

Different viewpoints usually need a bit more explanation of each perspective. I would prefer a more tactical interpretation of the battle in the summarybox. We could state the factual result more tuned besides victory, defeat, inconclusive, also advantage, repulsed, weakened, forced to retreat, annihilated, lost supplies, disabled to forage, etc. A strategic analysis can be part of the aftermath and of an article on the whole war. There we can judge defeat or victory.

In the prelude we can point out why the battle happened and what were the different objectives. Usually pitched battles were accepted by both sides for different reasons on a chosen ground. Classical and Medieval war was mostly marching, foraging and sieges; battles were the highlights of a campaign.

In the section about the battle we simply state what happened for sure (movements, tactics, troops). Tactical defeats and victories of single units in the course of the battle can be stated and how the battle ended (nightfall, retreat).

All interpretations and legends of a battle are listed in the aftermath. There we point out its meaning, also concerning it as a part of a larger theatre. We can refer to the prelude and show what happened to the objectives each side wanted to achieve.


My opinion so far. Wandalstouring 20:04, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

I would in general agree, but even in the causes there are always differing opinions. I don't know if perspectives can be confined to one area of the article, because in any war/battle, more than just the outcome is interpreted differently. I think with every article, how it is handled will be different, and I don't know if a standard format can be applied to every article. I should probably read a few more, see how other editors have handled it. --Nobunaga24 14:11, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Every silver lining has a cloud

I think David j silver was deleted at least three times yesterday before he gave up, and his other efforts also require careful review. He's a handful. -Will Beback 17:35, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re: The USS Simpson - the greatest, most important warship ever

Oh. My. Gosh. I followed him around via his edits for a while today...you really weren't kidding. "Delusions of grandeur" springs to mind, particularly after his mindboggling blog tour. I had no idea one man affected the world's history in so many ways. He also seems to fancy himself quite the international spy, which I'm sure will keep me up nights now.

I had a boyfriend like that--I was scared to break up with him because I thought he would kill me. Scary memories of our conversations together are all coming back to me as I read about this man's extraordinary life and sit through his 700+ photos of three different poses. Good times.

Oh yeah, and as I was getting my Adult Swim fix last night, I suddenly thought "The USS Simpson - the greatest, most important warship ever" and I laughed out loud. Thanks for the info/warning/entertainment. --ScreaminEagle 16:03, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

Re my revert, ah. But it looked like one big wipe out of info. Sorry for the trouble. I restored your version.Rlevse 02:16, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
No problem, bro :)--Nobunaga24 04:34, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
He's begun writing on my userpage now: "Nobunaga should take a look at how she salutes, it could be taken as act of aggression." What the...? --ScreaminEagle 16:30, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Amphibious Ship Edits

I've noticed your recent edits adding links to military units carried by U.S. Navy amphibious ships. Thanks! I've been working on these ship articles, mostly for WWII-vintage attack cargo ships, mostly from the Navy side. I'm interested in their having as many Army and Marine Corps links as possible, but I know very little about the units or structure of either of these services. I very much appreciate your edits, and would appreciate any help you might have on finding and linking to other Army/USMC units. Lou Sander 16:41, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

Replying to your message: Nice to meet you. I sort of know about the various Wikipedia military history projects, but I haven't joined. I'm not yet highly knowledgeable about Wikipedia techniques, etc., and I'm not sure that I want to get too deeply into that stuff, due to the danger of addiction.
I was a naval officer for four years, from 1961-1965. Two years aboard a ship, two years in a beach jumper unit. I basically couldn't stand it that the Navy "owned me," so I got as far away from it as I could. Forty years later I ran into a few of my former colleagues, and we started a reunion group, which has gotten pretty large. Our very extensive web site is HERE. Through working with the group, I've developed some expertise in a few narrow areas of naval history, which is something I never knew or cared much about previously.
We've got some pretty interesting insight into Japanese history a few weeks after the war, in the form of a letter from one of the ship's officers. You can see it HERE. It goes on for seven pages or so, which you can get to through the blue navigation links at the top of the pages.
My user page also has a lot of other biographical stuff, including a list of the 100+ ship articles I've posted. I live in Pittsburgh, and I see you've visited here. Were you just passing through, or ???? Lou Sander 18:18, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Assistant Coordinator position

It gives me great pleasure to inform you that, per the result of the just-concluded election, you are now an Assistant Coordinator of the Military history WikiProject!

I would ask that you place the coordinator page on your watchlist; its talk page contains a scratch pad and discussion area that should be useful in keeping track of needed coordination work.

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[edit] Impersonating sockpuppet blocked

An apparent sockpuppet of User:Jessefriend, et.al. — User:Nobunaga25, began reverting the Jesse Macbeth article. I have indefinitely blocked this user. You might want to keep an eye out for other accounts created to impersonate you. — ERcheck (talk) 00:22, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

Have those other accounts already been created (26, 27, etc.)? Though 3RR might appear to apply here, it appears more to be vandalism — considering the addition of inaccurate information and the creation of sockpuppets. — ERcheck (talk) 00:27, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Vandalism to Jesse Macbeth

Have you reported the vandalism to the article on Wikipedia:Administrator intervention against vandalism or the sockpuppetry on Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents? — ERcheck (talk) 00:33, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. I'll chat with Mmx1 on this. I believe Looper5920 is offline right now. — ERcheck (talk) 00:40, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

See this thread on my talk page. For now, looks like it is handled. Please feel free to let me know if the problem continues. — ERcheck (talk) 01:28, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] If you hate fake vets...

keep an eye on this article.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Wakim

grazon 01:53, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Rickover

And why, pray tell, does my opinion not matter on the subject of the article's ranking? It is in any case not vandalism. Given that I knew Rickover, you might want to reconsider. Perhaps you thought my use of an IP address somehow made me a vandal? Odd. --66.69.219.9 04:32, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

Whenever I see an anonymous IP removing content, or making changes that don't conform to established policy, my first assumption is vandal. I, for one, do not assume good faith when it comes to anonymous IPs. If someone wants to be taken seriously as a contributor, make a f*cking account. It takes about 30 seconds, costs you nothing. IPs can have multiple users, or the opposite, a user's IP could change everytime they log on, making a complete record of someone's contributions impossible to follow.--Nobunaga24 00:58, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] U.S. Soldier's Creed

Could you take a look at this for me? The wife (lower enlisted) has been harping on me about the Warrior Ethos thing again. I have done what I could for now. I still believe it to be a stub; I would like to see more of an introduction and perhaps some history about the first version.

To summarize my changes:

  1. Redirected "Warrior Ethos" to "US Soldier's Creed"; merged the two articles to reduce confusion.
  2. Removed "entitled the 'Warrior Ethos'" - It is entitled the US Soldier's Creed. The "Warrior Ethos" is contained in the Creed.
  3. Removed the "dog-tag" reference - unnecessary; trite. It is now an external link. Should this even be here?
  4. Moved "controversial" remark to end of paragraph, referenced cited article. Should this even be here?
  5. Formatted the second stanza (Warrior Ethos) in similar fashion to the way it is primarily displayed.
  6. Added merged "Warrior Ethos" copy.
  7. Added a reference to age of previous version.

I do not know what the Washington Post reference references. Awhit003 10:13, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Leighton W. Smith, Jr.

Am I going nuts or is the image of Smith not showing up for anyone else besides me? I tried reinserting it to see if it would take, it looked fine in the preview so I saved it, and then it disappeared again in the save. I'm obviously losing in a battle of wits with a picture, so could you see what its problem is (you know, since you were over there recently)? --ScreaminEagle 21:53, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

I can't explain that, then. It still doesn't show up for me, just an empty thumb image box with text. It's the only picture that's doing that to me, too. Oh well.
And I noticed you did the article on Roudebush. I'd been meaning to write that for months but never found the time. I'm glad you got to it, since it did need to be done. Good job! --ScreaminEagle 20:45, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] 101st Chemical Company

I'm not sure if you are the original author of the 101st Chemical Company article, but it needs a major rewrite. Currently, the article is disputed for its neutrality. I agree, as parts of it seem to belittle the 21st Chemical Company of which I was apart of for a little over three years. The page does not cite its sources, nor does it cover the unit’s history in WWII. I left some information near the bottom of the article's talk page that might be of interest. If you are not the original author, I am sorry for taking up your time. (!Mi luchador nombre es amoladora de la carne y traigo el dolor! 03:54, 19 October 2006 (UTC))

Never mind, the history page did not totally load the first time. You just added the "start" tag to it. I personally believe the article is a "stub" at best. Sorry to have bothered you. (!Mi luchador nombre es amoladora de la carne y traigo el dolor! 04:08, 19 October 2006 (UTC))

[edit] Japan Dislikes

I agree with you on a lot of your likes/dislikes of Japan. My major dislike in Japan is that the train system stops running around 1 a.m., which means if you want to stay out later than that (and I usually do) you're SOL until 5 a.m. when they start running again or else you're paying Y10,000+ for a taxi back to whatever distant suburb you live in. I think Japanese beer tastes good with Japanese food, coincidentally. If you want some good stuff, try some of the Japanese microbrews, like the one with the owl on the label (I can't remember the name). They're expensive, but very, very good.

I'm hoping to visit the Hiroshima peace museum someday. I already know it presents a one-sided perspective on the event. But not all the victims of US bombing are so myopic. Once I was drinking in an old izekaya in Asakusa, Tokyo with my girlfriend (now wife). An older gentlemen who was missing some fingers started talking to us in a kind way (my wife translated). He stated that he lost his fingers as a child, along with most of his family, in the firebombing of Tokyo in March, 1945. He also stated that he knew that Japan had done a lot of bad things in China and to Allied prisoners of war. He said that during the occupation, some US bomber crews came to the neighborhoods in the heavily bombed-out portion of Tokyo, including his, and helped the residents rebuild and plant gardens since food was scarce. Thus, he said, he had little, if any, ill will towards the US. Cla68 01:26, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

Yes, once in a bar in Hachioji (an outer suburb of Tokyo) a middle-aged gentlemen sitting near me started talking to the bartender but in a voice loud enough for me to hear, saying "an atomic bomb is like a dish of curry" and continuing on in the same, obtuse way (my companion translated for me, otherwise I wouldn't have noticed). I guess he thought he was being witty. I left and went somewhere else. I don't know if you heard about the interesting exchange that occurred on Japanese TV either in August '05 or '04. A US Pearl Harbor survivor was brought onto a Japanese prime-time show to debate the use of the atomic bomb with a group of Japanese, including some Hibakusha. Apparently he had prepared himself for what was going to happen. When they started in on him, he smilingly reminded them of not just Pearl Harbor, but the invasion of China and Korea, the Phillipines, the "Greater East Co-prosperity Sphere", etc. Not expecting him to defend himself so well and so unapologetically, the Hibakusha on the panel were stunned into silence. At the end he laughed and said something like, "I wish all of you well." (I've seen video of it). The exchange was reported in the Japanese mass media, who didn't necessarily criticize the guy as much as you might think they would have. I guess some perspective can help subdue some of the vitriol. Cla68 01:52, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Strategic Air Command bases

Will you please put back the page that had the dates of the name change on it I tried and was unsuxccessful. Thank you. R. E. Mixer 21:41, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

I fixed it myself but thanks anyway. R. E. Mixer 15:16, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Australian Honours Order of Precedence

Good idea. Thanks for the changes to Australian Honours Order of Precedence LW77 11:41, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Help with editing

Re: U.S. 14th Armored Division page. You made a change on this page earlier, and I am asking for your assistance as I am not very good with editing. A U.S. Army unit's officially awarded Nickname ("Special" or "Distinctive Unit Designation") comes under the heading "Lineage and Heraldry" not "Culture and History." Can you help me understand how to edit the box on the page to reflect this? It would be greatly appreciated. 14thArmored 1300 Hours, 2 November 2006

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