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Citation for each laureate's selection
I would like to add the citations explaining why each Laureate was selected. I interpret http://www.nobel.se/help/copyright/index.html to mean that these citations would be in the public domain. -- Claudine
Economics not real Nobel Prize
The prize in economics is NOT considered a "real" Nobel Prize, (By whom? - GWO) and this have been emphasized more (By whom?) and more in sweden. Maybe it should be moved under the line to the other "nobel-like" prizes?
GWO - Some of the more notable critics today is the grandchildren of Nobel who claim that 1) the prize of economics is not in the will of Alfred Nobel and 2) Alfred Nobel did not consider economics to be a science i.e. not worthy of a prize. They are currently working for the committee and media to not to shorten the current name to "nobel prize" but to the "Bank of Sweden prize" (whereas the long name is somewhere on the lines of "Bank of Sweden prize in economics in the memory of Alfred Nobel").
It is by the Nobel Commitee, who make no distinction. I say keep it where it is.
Biographies copyrights
Does anyone know if we have permission to copy/paste the biographies from www.nobel.se?
PeterLB 17:54, 3 Apr 2004 (UTC)
- Guess not: Copyrights on nobel.se
PeterLB 19:26, 3 Apr 2004 (UTC)
Chronological or reverse chronological lists?
Hi, I was just wondering (this is because I was searching for the names of the more recent Nobel laureates) why the lists are placed in chronological order. (Maybe it's just me but) wouldn't it be more convenient of it ran in reverse chronological?
Oh, and the formatting for the different Nobel prizes differ - I think it needs standardization... - Fiveless 13:25, Oct 13, 2004 (UTC)
Pronunciation
Maybe it's just me or where I live... But I've heard Noble pronounced only as no-bell, where there is no discernable accent. The previous entry said no-BELL, which would imply an accent on the second syllabus. I just added my two cents, but I've just never heard of the latter. Both it is, for now. --128.235.130.68 07:10, 7 Nov 2004 (UTC)
- The correct pronounctation is no-BELL. While it is a 'noble' prize indeed, the name is spelt 'Nobel' and prounounced that way as well. See the article on Alfred Nobel for a sound file. Swedish, like German, has a long vowel sound when a single consonant follows, which is opposite to english, where a double consonant means a long vowel sound ("tall", "talent"). So indeed 'Nobell' would be a closer for an english speaker.
AxelBoldt: That is just wrong. The Peace prize ceremony is in Oslo, and was in 2002 as well. 2002 laureate Jimmy Carter at Oslo City Hall can be seen here
The peace prize winner recives his prize on Dec 10 in the Oslo City Hall in Oslo, Norway. The rest of the laureates recive their awards at the Stockholm Concert Hall, followed by a banquet at Stockholm City Hall.
Nomination for the Nobel Prize
I am going to edit the line which says that nobel prize nomination is meaningless because anyone can nominate anyone or something to that effect. That is not true. According to the Nobel organizations website there are specifi rules on who may nominate. In digest it says that for each prize category the person doing the nominating must be a distinguised practiioner of the science or art the prize pertains to. This is established by academy membership or professional practice. Details can be found, Nobel Prize for physics nominator qualifications or Nobel Peace Przie nominator qualifications
The information the way I put it in the article was not cut/paste. I put it in my own words therefore no copywright issues need to be considered. --Hfarmer 22:38, 28 Feb 2005 (UTC)
If the author of the wiki page was using his own words, it looks like someone else plagiarized him.
A practically identical text can be seen at: http://psychcentral.com/mwiki/index.php/Nobel_Prize <quote> It should be noted that the expression "nominated for a Nobel Prize," when used to establish someone's credentials or expertise in a certain field, is not an essentially meaningless expression. Although anyone can be nominated, not anyone can nominate anyone else for a Nobel Prize. </quote> Dude, somebody plagiarized somebody, unless the psychcentral folks gave you credit and I couldn't find the footnote.
- Haven't you seen a sign of Wikipedia at the bottom of their page? They have every right to publish text from Wikipedia as long as they do so according to the GNU Free Documentation Licence. --Eleassar777 09:00, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Economics
The official website of the Nobel Prize refers to the economics award as a "Nobel Prize", but also spares no effort to work in the long form:
- The Bank of Sweden Prize in Economic Sciences in Memory of Alfred Nobel [1]
- The Bank of Sweden (Sveriges Riksbank) Prize in Economic Sciences in Memory of Alfred Nobel [2]
- "The Nobel Prize is an international award given yearly since 1901 for achievements in physics, chemistry, medicine, literature and for peace. In 1968, the Bank of Sweden instituted the Prize in Economic Sciences in Memory of Alfred Nobel, founder of the Nobel Prize." [3]
Short form:
- This is the official online source where you first learn the names of the new Nobel Prize Winners in October each year. [4]
- The "List of all laureates" [5] makes no distinction between original and Bank of Sweden prizes.
So the question remains: can we call recipients of the Economics award "Nobel Prize winners"? Uncle Ed July 6, 2005 16:13 (UTC)
How many prizes?
- "a total of 770 Nobel Prizes have been given"
Does this include, or exclude, economics? If it includes economics, then I'm changing all the "Sweden" stuff back to "Nobel". If it excludes it, then we have to say:
- "735 Nobel Prizes and 35 Bank of Sweden Prizes" have been given out.
It's one or the other, people. Don't let's get crazy about this. Uncle Ed July 6, 2005 16:30 (UTC)
- 770 includes economics. --Apoc2400 23:16, 28 August 2005 (UTC)
Suggest restructuring
I suggest that:
- About the prizes and Prize categories are merged and made the first section, before Nobel's Will.
- The history part of About the prizes is move into a new History section, placed after Nobel's Will.
- Criticism of the prize is moved to just above Other prizes.
Any objections or can I do it? --Apoc2400 09:51, 23 August 2005 (UTC)
- Ok, I have made a lot of changes now. --Apoc2400 23:14, 28 August 2005 (UTC)
