Talk:Nisargadatta Maharaj
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[edit] Copyvio
The extremely long quote is probably a copyright violation. WP policy only allows short quote, maybe a paragraph or two. In any case, it would be better to write a summary of his teaching then simply an extract... —Hanuman Das 20:26, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
- Not so. Copyright allows for significant extracts, and 8 short paragraphs out of a 180 page book to illustrate someones views without distortion, for educational purposes, is not considered unfair use. (See WP:FU -- General & Text).
- A summary is probably not a bad idea. The difficulty is, that sometimes for a biographical article, the person's own words are important, and that's probably more so when the person is talking about matters which to most people are extremely non-intuitive and poorly understood.
- I have reverted the edit and put the quotes back, for now, can we discuss here. FT2 (Talk) 09:57, 29 April 2006 (UTC)
You are talking about fair use, I presume? The key word in fair use is use. You are perfectly correct that the individual quotes are short enough to be considered fair use. The problem is that there is no discussion of the quotes and what they illustrate. By themselves like you have them, they could very well be considered a copyvio. If you intersperse them with even an equal amount of introduction, discussion, commentary, and/or analysis, then this are certainly fair use. One of the key factors in deciding fair use is what is the proportion of quoted text to original commentary and analysis. The use of 100% quote in the teachings section would probably not be considered fair use by a court. Most people don't realize this and think fair use lets them quote short pieces without restriction, but the "educational" exception means that you must be including your own text in order to educate people about the material you are quoting. HTH. I'll leave it there for now for you to add original discussion/analysis of equal or greater length than the quotes. —Hanuman Das 12:53, 29 April 2006 (UTC)
- That makes sense. I am a bit busy the next few days, but will try to make time to do so. If I forget feel free to drop me a talk page message though FT2 (Talk) 01:04, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
No problem. Glad you understand. —Hanuman Das 01:12, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
I am going to start working on a summary of his teachings, so that it is just not a set of quotes... Sethie 23:27, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
I am so glad that someone has helped update this site other than my poor attempts... Attempts non the less. A close friend of mine was a disciple of Maharaj just before his death, and it has influenced my life. Good to see his wikipedia site grow. If any help is needed, please just ask. --User:AFACI 09:22, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
