User talk:Nick Thorne

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[edit] Welcome! to Wikipedia!

Hello Nick Thorne, this is Exir Kamalabadi, and I hope that you are having fun with Wikipedia. First of all, welcome to Wikipedia! Find something that can be improved, either in content, grammar or formatting, then fix it. Don't be afraid. Be bold! If you do something wrong, there is always someone who will clean up the mess.

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Finally, feel free to leave me a message on my talk page when you need help!

Exir KamalabadiJoin Esperanza! 01:30, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

Hello, Nick. If you are who I think you are then we served together (well, sort of) and I also know your father through radio things. See me over at my user page (Peter Ellis), or leave a message at Peter Ellis talk. Best wishes, 203.10.231.231 06:15, 20 September 2005 (UTC)

Wow - thanks for the picture of final approach to Melbourne. Seeing that has cemented in my mind my decision never to become a naval aviator!!! Hammersfan, 10.02 GMT, 03/02/06.

Thanks for experimenting with Wikipedia. Your test worked, and has been reverted or removed by an automated bot. Please use the sandbox for any other tests you want to do. Take a look at the welcome page if you would like to learn more about contributing to our encyclopedia. Thanks. If you feel you have received this notice in error, please contact the bot owner // Tawkerbot2 02:32, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Redirects

Just so you know, when you want to redirect a page (when you want something to a "see such and such") instead of keeping two articles the syntax #REDIRECT [[page name here]] is the accepted syntax. You got the bot auto warning because the redirect didn't match the pattern, I know its good faith and I've fixed it for you. If you have any questions feel free to leave me a message :) -- Tawker 07:51, 23 March 2006 (UTC) -- Tawker 02:51, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

I don't know what page you're looking at but you put in "See Trout Cod" instead of #REDIRECT [[Trout Cod]] - anything but the redirect version would not redirect and would be auto reverted. Could you provide a link to this page? -- Tawker 03:07, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

I think we might be talking at cross purposes here. My original attempt to change involved me merging the contents into the target page and replacing the contents of the source page Trout cod with a link to the target in the following form "See Trout Cod". The bot reversed this change. I made a complaint on the bot talk page using the link provided in the vandalism message. After that I thought about it and realised that there had to be a way to do what i was attempting and re-read the info from the bot and the rest of its talk page and then figured I haD TO DO A REDIRECT, SO i LOOKED UP REDIRECT THROUGH THE NORMAL wIKI SEARCH FUNCTION AND GOT TO http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Redirect i THEN CUT AND PASTED THE FIRST EXAMPLE FROM THAT PAGE TO THE (Sorry about that, wretched caps lock key...) source page (substituting the correct page ref for the example one) and received a second message from the bot complaining about the redirect syntax and stating that it had corrected it for me. I'm still not sure what's wrong here, I would have thought it reasonable to cut and paste from the help page. Either the bot picked up my edit incorrectly, or the text on the help page is incorrect. Either way, I guess I have acheived what I set out to do, but I'm still alittle miffed that the bot killed me on the first attempt, since I did actually replace the original page with a link to a more complete page with an almost identiocal title. Frankly all this would not have happenned (the duplication of pages and hence my attempt to fix it) if Wikipedia did not have this idiotic UNIX like sensitivity to case in document names, but that is a topic for another discussion on another day! <grin>

Ok, I still don't totally see where the info on the redirect page was. I see this diff which didn't have the word redirect in it at all, I'm still trying to find out where the help page is screwed up, I'm still at a loss for that one. All I can see is somehow your edit said See instead of #REDIRECT - it really is super hard to make the bot intelligent in that regard, I know Wikipedia can be a little crazy in its cases (but if you want a nightmare look at Wiktionary where Test and test are two unique words). Anyways, I'll take another look at the help page and try and figure out how you got confused, sorry about it accusing you of being a vandal, events like this are pretty rare considering how many edits the bot makes :) -- Tawker 06:06, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

Yes, I work in IT, so I have an appreciation of how hard it is to write an all encompassing utility like your bot. For what its worth one approach might be to look at the new page contents and if it contains a Wiki link and is less than say 5 words, then maybe the page could be marked for human attention, ot alternatively, reverse the edit, but instead of sending a vandalism message send a message directing the editor to the redirect help page for advice on how to do that sort of change. Just a thought and I'm not trying to tell you how to do your job. BTW I'm over the initial action of the bot now. <grin>

[edit] Flatheads

Nick, guilty as charged. It certainly wasn't meant to be impolite, I must have been tired & not thinking straight. I could have taken care of the fixes if you'd just pointed it out - redirects only take a few seconds each. Anyway, the net result is good & clear in the Galaxiid page, thanks for keeping an eye on things. We both seem to have an interest in freshwater fish in our respective countries. Bodes well. Cheers GrahamBould 05:40, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Dwarves

Oh dear, I seem to have done it again. There was a problem with two fishes with the same name 'dwarf galaxias', one in each country - the names were pointing incorrectly. On my way to work now, let me know what we should do about this & I'll take care of it tonight. Apologies GrahamBould 05:59, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

Have checked again, & the NZ dwarf galaxias has only that common name (nothing else even on Google). If the Aussie dwarf is mainly known as that too then may I suggest that they be renamed as "Dwarf galaxias (Australia)" & "Dwarf galaxias (New Zealand)". If you agree please let me know & I can take care of it. Thanks for pointing this out, your local knowledge is certainly helpfull. GrahamBould 09:01, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

Hi Graham, sounds like a sensible solution to me, of course as yet there is no Wiki page for the Aussie fish, but that can be fixed. In fact I was planning to put one up soon anyway but I've been a bit busy with work. There is a taxonomic summary on the Native Fish Australia web site which lists all the most common names for Aussie freshwater fish, if that is of any use to you. I would say in future if you see a name that conflicts with a New Zealand one, it would pay to check then. Alternatively I am happy to help out as required. BTW, I was under the impression that the NZ fish was called the "dwarf inanga" (but I profess no encyclopedic knowledge of NZ fishes), if that is the same fish, perhaps that name could be used and this would avoid any conflict.Nick Thorne 05:25, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Battle of Taranto

Hi, I replied on the talk page. Sijo Ripa 02:24, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hey

Hey Nick,

I just noticed you the fauna by country category discussion, and recognised your name! I am Evan from the frogs.org.au forum, I had no idea you were a Wikipedian! Good to know. --liquidGhoul 14:04, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

You definitely seem to know about freshwater fish, so I am glad you are contributing. Check out the Category:Frogs of Australia, which has all the work that I, User:Tnarg 12345 and User:Froggydarb have been doing on Australian frogs. If you have any frog photos which are not represented by a photo or article, we are very happy to create the article so you can upload and add the photo. --liquidGhoul 09:34, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
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