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There was a quote from a Russian poet about Nicholas I containing the phrase "black frost." Anyone know the source of this quote or what it referred to? -j1000

This article covers the period of Russian History following the wars and revolutionary movements of the three decades prior to 1825. The Russian state became reactionary and repressive in response.

This is rather unacceptable as the beginning of a biography article. And this article is, indeed, not a biography article - it's a history of Russia from 1825-1855, including some information about Nicholas himself. Who thought it would be a good idea to import a country study as a biography article? An article on Nicholas I of Russia should not "cover" any "period of Russian history" at all - it should describe the life of Nicholas I of Russia. Notably, it should cover his life before he ascended the throne, and it should not cover Russian history, except insofar as it serves to illuminate an explanation of his own life. john k 21:34, 10 Oct 2004 (UTC)

I agree entirely John K... the article should focus on Nicholas I's life, personal and political. It should be a detailed article on his life with reference to the history and politics of the era when and as appropiate. TG312274 TG312274

[edit] King of Poland?

Articles November Uprising and Congress Poland mention that Nicholas was never crowned king of Poland. So, was he or wasn't he a king of Poland? --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus Talk 20:40, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Nicholas ruled Poland, Nicholas called himself 'Царь Польский' (Tsar of Poland). On the other hand, he was not a 'King of Poland' after 1830, when the Constitution of 1815 was abolished and the personal union ended with incorporation of the separate Tsardom of Poland into the Russian Empire. Then again, the title of 'Tsar of Poland' remained... Mapple 18:40, 12 August 2005 (UTC)
My understanding was that Congress Poland wasn't fully incorporated into Russia until following the 1863 rebellion. john k 06:40, 13 August 2005 (UTC)
As far as I know, 1863 brought no changes in the legal status of Poland. Mapple 07:12, 13 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Westernizers and Slavophiles

This article says that the "westernizers" were eurocentric, but doesn't closely identify this with liberalism and the enlightenment. Meanwhile it doesn't indicate that the Slavophiles idealized the institution of serfdom, proclaiming it to be mutually beneficial to peasant and landowner--this seems pretty important, since it somewhat conflicts with their idealization of peasant life. I'll add to it shortly, but discuss if you disagree. Fearwig 19:18, 6 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Death?

Does anyone with a decent knowledge know anything about the circumstances/place/means of death? When talking about Russian monarchs, death is usually an interesting topic. :-) The article is virtually silent. Ocon 05:51, 20 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Grand Duchess Maria Nikolaevna

In the Issue table in the Issue section, his eldest daughter Maria Nikolaevna is linked to the wrong Maria Nikolaevna. It is linked to the 3rd daughter of the last Tsar, Tsar Nikolai II. I do not think there is a page about Nicholas I's eldest daughter... Perhaps the link should be removed?

--SaraFL 14:41, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Autocracy, Orthodoxy, and National Character

I think this phrase is worth a least a mention in the See also section, since the article seems to suggest that Nicholas I initiated its use!

EvocativeIntrigue TALK | EMAIL 00:48, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] W B Lincoln's Book On Nicholas I > Northern Illinois University

Titled NICHOLAS I - EMPEROR AND AUTOCRAT OF ALL THE RUSSIANS and which I believe is the only serious literary work to mention aspects of his personal life, especially his relations with his mother and brothers and the rest of his immediate family. The last pages do mention the circumstances under which he died. Should material from this book be added to the article?218.186.9.4 17:29, 3 December 2006 (UTC)