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[edit] Pittsburgh

Is this set in Pittsburgh? --Chris Griswold (☎☓) 17:19, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

I don't think so. Issue #1 has a variety of settings, but the newuniversal version of Star Brand isn't in Pittsburgh (unlike the original New Universe version?), he's in Oklahoma. --Mrph 00:00, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

That's too bad. Much of New Universe was set here in Pittsburgh. The whole project was Jim Shooter's baby, and he loves his hometown. When he left Marvel, a number of people disliked him, and they went about destroying the New Universe, starting with Pittsburgh. The comic The Pit shows a map of the damage. --Chris Griswold (☎☓) 04:19, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] New Universe & newuniversal - articles for alternate versions of characters

This is likely to be a factor in a few issues time (as with Ultimate Marvel, Supreme Power etc), so for clarity - as I understand 'em, WP:CMC guidelines (as noted here) are...

• "Alternate versions of characters should have entries in the main article unless that article grows unmanageably large" - and only if it's still that large after it's "been copyedited to conform with editorial guidance"
• ...based on that, characters who appeared in the original New U should be sharing articles with their newuniversal equivalents. Izanami Randall is one possible exception - if she's not using the 'Nightmask' name, there's no direct link between the two versions, so a new article might make sense (as with Supreme Power's Blur, which is a similar situation).
• Although Star Brand has an article, that's no specifically about Ken Connell - it's about the New Universe version of the brand/weapon. If the newuniversal version turns out to be something very different, it might be worth creating a Ken Connell article, then adding the New U Ken Connell history segments into that...? I don't think that's anything that needs to be done soon, though.

Opinions? --Mrph 14:54, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

I agree. Give them a separate section unless they really diverge so far from the originals that it all stops making sense and they can be considered as a separate character. Perhaps this section could be used for that discussion if that looks like happening so everyone can give their opinion. (Emperor 17:00, 10 December 2006 (UTC))

[edit] Style comments...

Little things, but might be worth working into the article at some point...

• The first three covers are all very distinctive - both in terms of the image and the way they're colored. No characters, no action scenes.
• Lettering - captions are (mostly) all caps, human dialogue is sentence case (unlike Izanami's apparition)
• ...which neatly ties into the date/time thing. I've mentioned this in the article - so far, newuniversal is clearly not running on comic book time - but Ellis seems to consciously nail every scene to a time. They're listed to the minute and they're listed in Universal Standard Time as well as local time - he's doing this to make a point...

--Mrph 00:12, 11 December 2006 (UTC)