Talk:New Zealand order of precedence

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What IS the "order of precedence"? What are the benifits associated with being at the top of the list? Why is this list significant? Skylark 19:49, 31 Aug 2004 (UTC)

It's generally only of ceremonial importance. The idea is that the dignitary with the highest precedence walks into the room first, is introduced first, sits higher up the table, sits closer to the front of a photograph, etc. Another example: according to the New Zealand Cabinet Manual, when a junior minister phones a senior minister he speaks to the senior ministers secretary: but a senior minister gets her secretary to place the call and then picks it up once the junior minister is on the line. Ben Arnold 07:07, 2 Nov 2004 (UTC)

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[edit] Privy Council?

Do Privy Counsellors still rank, given the establishment of the New Zealand Supreme Court effective from January 1, 2004? -- FirstPrinciples 12:10, Nov 8, 2004 (UTC)

To answer my own question, it seems the answer is yes. The Privy Council in this context is evidently a different concept to the legal court of the same name. -- FirstPrinciples 12:13, Nov 8, 2004 (UTC)
The appeal to the Privy Council was an appeal to the Judicial Committee of the Privy Council. (I might not have got the name quite right.) I haven't been able to establish whether New Zealand is still appointing Privy Councillors, but I suppose things stay as they are until the Order of Precedence is officially changed. Ben Arnold 02:35, 30 Dec 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Note

Archbishop Patrick Coveney (fourth on the list) no longer holds the position. Not sure who his replacement is. -- FP 11:44, Mar 4, 2005 (UTC)

I believe it would be be Feesago Siaosi Fepulea’i of Samoa, assuming that there hasn't been any change there as well. (Lim Jock Seng of Brunei is actually more senior than Fepulea’i, but isn't resident in New Zealand, so isn't able to be Dean of the Diplomatic Corps. I've updated the article. -- Vardion 18:47, 4 Mar 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Canadian High Commissioner

Miss Robin Mulder of the Canadian High Commission sent the following e-mail to the help desk e-mail list.

The Canadian High Commission in Wellington, New Zealand respectfully asks if en.wikimedia.org could update the following webpage

New_Zealand_order_of_precedence

to reflect that Mr. John Donaghy has departed New Zealand and is no longer High Commissioner. He has been replaced by Ms. Penny B. Reedie, with an accreditation date of 31 August 2005.

It would be greatly appreciated if I could be advised by email when the change has been enacted.

Thank you for your time and assistance in attending to this request.

Sincerely, Robin Mulder (Miss) Assistant to the High Commissioner / Adjointe de l'Haute Commissaire High Commission of Canada / L'haut commissariat du Canada Level 11, 125 The Terrace

The article was changed accordingly to reflect this advice. Capitalistroadster 00:37, 11 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Queen of New Zealand, and list organization

From the introductory paragraph:

While the Queen herself is not listed in the order of precedence, as Queen of New Zealand she holds the highest precedence in New Zealand.

Quite frankly, this doesn't make sense. If she isn't in the NZ order of precedence, how can she have any precedence in NZ? Perhaps someone who knows more about this than I can clarify the matter.

Additionally, the way the list is organized seems rather awkward to me – the sub-lists consisting of only a single person are unnecessary, IMHO, and make the list much longer than it needs to be. Instead of:

  1. The Governor-General, or (whilst acting in the place of the Governor-General) the deputy of the Governor-General or the officer administering the Government
  2. The Prime Minister
  3. ...

I'd like to propose the following format:

  1. The Governor-General (Rt Hon Dame Sian Elias), or (whilst acting in the place of the Governor-General) the deputy of the Governor-General or the officer administering the Government
  2. The Prime Minister (Rt Hon Helen Clark)
  3. ...

Any feedback would be welcome. -Alkari 00:22, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

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