Talk:New Square, New York
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[edit] New Square business
What about the "New Square" orange juice?--Pharos 21:36, 2 Feb 2005 (UTC)
- What about it? It is manufacured by/through the Hasidim living in New Square as part of their commercial undertakings...(gotta make a living somehow, right?) IZAK 09:35, 4 Feb 2005 (UTC)
If it's a major business there, it should probably be mentioned in the article. I myself don't know much about the commercial activities in the town other than this end product.--Pharos 09:41, 4 Feb 2005 (UTC)
The above info is wrong. New Square dairy products are manufactured by Ahava dairy, which also makes Golan Cheese, Morning Select dairy products, and a few other brands. The owners have no connection to New Square. They simply pay New Square for use of their name, and, as part of the deal, they use the New Square Kashruth Certification.--Kotzker 19:20, 10 March 2006 (UTC)
- As they say "business is business" so who cares what the arrangements are as long as "the bottom line" adds up. By the way, why aren't you signing your comments with the four tildes ~~~~ ? Thanks. IZAK 09:16, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
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- Sorry, Izak. It took a while to get the hang of the whole Wiki thing, and couldn't figure out how to add a signature. I've added it now to my previously published comments. --Kotzker 19:20, 10 March 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Info on Chernobyl/Rachmestrivk Incorrect
There are individuals in New Square who identify with other groups, such as Belz, Viznitz, Rachmestrivk, Klausenberg, among many others. However, those individuals do not constitute groups. There are currently no *groups* of those chasidim that identify as such.
In years past, the Rachmestrivka Rebbe lived there and gained a following among some residents. The subsequent friction, which intensified after his father Reb Zusha passed away—manifested in acts of thuggerry committed with tacit approval of the Skver establishment— resulted in his move to Borough Park, and there has been no Rachmestrivk presence in New Square since that merits mention.
The New Square community does not allow any sub-groups to form that would undermine the homogenity of Skver. It is for that reason that no other schools, synagogues, or even private minyanim are allowed. Kotzker 05:35, 10 March 2006 (UTC)
- So if you know all this why don't you add it into the article? And again, why aren't you signing your comments with the four tildes ~~~~ ? Thanks again. IZAK 09:16, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Please explain the demographics
The article states
median income for a family is $12,208. Males have a median income of $21,696 versus $29,375 for females
How is this possible? Doesn't a family contain at least one person who is either male or female? How does a family's income get to be lower than that of the people in it? (Please note: I have looked at demographics for other places, including Monsey, New York, Spring Valley, New York, and Brooklyn, New York, and in those cases, the family income is above that of the individuals, as is logical. But I must admit that in the demographics for Kiryas Joel, New York, family income is below that of the individuals.) --Keeves 02:22, 31 August 2005 (UTC)
My guess (based on my knowledge of the community) is that figures are skewed by the number of young couples being supported by their families and the community. KJ and NS have a good sized number of zero-earner families. --alexisr 04:01, 6 November 2005 (UTC)
- Correct: The average family has a constantly growing number of children. Most families end up with having anywhere between seven to fourteen kids each, and then the kids start getting married from about eighteen years of age onwards -- with the parents footing the bills for the weddings and the setting-up of homes for the newly-wed couples -- quite enough to wipe out the income/s of any single earner/s in the family. In fact there are a huge amount of charitable appeals and borrowing that's an ongoing aspect without which many families would sink financially. So published figures are not just misleading they do not even begin to tell the true scope of the financial "black hole" faced by most of these struggling families. IZAK 09:16, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
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- US Census data doesn't take into account how much money a family spends. Alexisr has the correct answer. Male Median Income is derived from all males who work and Female Median Income is dervied from all females who work. Family Median Income is dervied from all familes(families headed by those who work and families headed by those who are currently involved in schooling and study but do not yet work). Therefore the number of families who devote the bulk of their time to study will have zero- or near zero-income and skew and family income. Chops79 18:40, 30 April 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Twersky or Twerski
The artice has both spellings of the name. Which is correct in this context? I know that different branches of the family spell it differently. JoshuaZ 14:20, 27 October 2006 (UTC)