User talk:Neverlate

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[edit] Welcome, Neverlate!

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ЯEDVERS 15:54, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] How long

Hi Neverlate and welcome to Wikipedia! The answer, I'm afraid, is "not long at all".

We have literally thousands of articles submitted to us every day. Of these, literally hundreds are non-notable: ie, they're about people or groups that no-one has heard of. To avoid Wikipedia sinking under the weight of these articles, a dedicated group of "New Page Patrollers" examine almost all articles as they are created.

These people then decide whether an article asserts notability for the subject (we don't require anything more than an assertion - for a notable person, that is always easy to provide). If it isn't, it gets tagged as non-notable.

This adds it to a queue where Wikipedia's admins see it. They then read the article, double-check that it doesn't assert notability, and decide whether to delete it or not.

This entire process can take from between 3 minutes to 3 hours, depending on how many people are doing it and how busy we are.

Today: lots of people doing it, and we're not very busy. So the five minutes you had is about average today.

The secret when writing an article for Wikipedia is to get your assertion of notability in before you do your first save. If you write a long, beautiful article, save it and plan to come back later and say "oh yes, this guy did such-and-such which was important" then you'll find the article missing when you get back!

Also, it helps to watch your capitalisation. Tyler Curtain would stand more chance than Tyler curtain because the latter looks a bit like vandalism (people writing about their pets, neighbours and teachers almost always get this wrong).

Please recreate the article if you wish, but remember to state your notability assertion in the first line of the article before you do your first save.

If you can't work like that, then you can create the article here - User:Neverlate/Tyler Curtain - work on it for as long as you need, then move the article to the mainspace (or ask me to do it if you're not confident!).

Hope this helps, and apologies for the very long reply. Welcome again! ЯEDVERS 15:54, 12 August 2006 (UTC)