Talk:Neumont University
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Neumont has engineered a collaborative, team based approach to educating the most sought after software developers in the world. - This language is verbatim from their advertising.
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This article was obviously edited for, ahem, "clarity" by someone working for the University. I don't know whether it should be kept as-is, reverted, or just plain old deleted. The editor in question is 67.172.250.48 - a Utah IP. Musteval 19:44, 25 February 2006 (UTC)
- I agree, this page is completely an advertisement and does not come close to being "neutral point of view".
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- I understand your concern regarding the NPOV aspect. The University's mission is to "educate the most sought after..." which is why that particular language is included in the very brief description. I have informed the college that they should consider a fairly significant 'upgrade' to the entry, including keeping the NPOV in mind throughout. However, bear in mind, per the information in the article (that for a US accredited institution must be based on fact and not hyperbole), that Neumont's first graduating class is achieving salary levels at a premium to the US national average for computer science graduates. --Scottmck 01:47, 19 April 2006 (UTC)
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- I had the opportunity to interview several Neumont students who were within 1-2 semesters of graduation. I think they should remane their program from "computer science" to "visual studio." They learn how to use Windows APIs, but they don't learn any CS theory. They had never even heard of big oh notation. While I believe the article to be technically accurate, it is certainly not the whole story. 63.230.124.81 20:55, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
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- The article implies that traditional college education doesn't prepare graduates to manage teams and oversee products, while Neumont does.
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- While I agree wholeheartedly with the first point, the claim isn't verifiable, and isn't suitable for an encyclopedia article; if the claim can be verified, sources should be cited.
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- The latter claim, that Neumont graduates are better prepared for leadership in real-world development projects, lacks sources for verification. Given how new the program is, statistically significant data is unlikely to be available. I'm much more skeptical of this claim. While Neumont's curriculum is structured to give students the kind of experiences that most graduates get during their first year or two of employment, who would let a kid with just a year or two of experience lead an important product? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.195.202.79 (talk • contribs) 12:33, 27 August 2006 (UTC).
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- I'm starting to clean up this article. Neumont has been recognized in enough places now that there is a legitimate need for this article. Anybody who does a little checking up on me will see that I'm in Utah, but I'm not a marketer for Neumont. I've looked at their programs and would consider applying there if I wasn't already a student elsewhere. I do work for a University, though, so I'm interested in Universities in general and would like to see this article cleaned up and fleshed out. — Joey Day (talk·edits) 20:58, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
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[edit] Sources
Adding links here so I can find them later:
- The Most Innovative College in America? — Some good stuff in here about the history of the university, including their mention in the Spellings commission report. The journalist also offers some criticism which I may cite to give this article more NPOV.
