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Welcome message

Thanks for unblocking me, but I'm a little confused about why you included the welcome template (and at the top of my talk page). I've been an active user for around two years. Twinxor t 02:42, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

I drop a welcome onto any talk page where I don't see a one or a talk page archives link on when I'm unblocking. It's my routine to calm down people who've just been blocked. = ) --  Netsnipe   ►  02:50, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

Thats just stupid.--Hamedog_Talk|^@ 03:44, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

Perhaps, I should clarify, "just been blocked by accident". --  Netsnipe   ►  03:52, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for unblocking me!Chamberlian 13:25, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

User:68.88.254.2

how come ur so special u hav the anti vandal thing and i dont? plz unblock user the.chihuahua . he told me he gave out his password to some of his friends because they told him they could spice up his page and help him make contributions. so he gave out his password and then later he said he got messages that said that he was vandalizing pages he never even touched. he thinks it was his friends who he gave his password to. plz consider this. thanks. — The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.88.254.2 (talk • contribs) 01:02, 3 December 2006 (UTC).

See User:Lupin/Anti-vandal tool. As for The.chihuahua (talk • contribs), he will never be unblocked since if what you say is indeed true then the security of that account can no longer be vouched for. An account's owner is solely responsible for all edits made under his or her name. --  Netsnipe  ►  15:46, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

User:Joehogian

Hello! I just learned of wikipedia, and have been finding it very useful. I found a few articles that I thought should have been edited, so i took the liberty and edited them. One page that I edited on (eragon) was left the way I left it. But another page I made a minor change to was changed back, and then you banned me. This page was alchemy. I was wondering why you banned me, and when I will get editing priveleges back.

-Joehogian — The preceding unsigned comment was added by Joehogian (talk • contribs) 03:42, 3 December 2006 (UTC).

Hi, your block log is empty, so I've never blocked your account "Joehogian" before. Are you sure you weren't autoblocked at the time instead? I can't review the block you're referring to unless you provide me with the full details including the reason and the IP address. --  Netsnipe   ►  11:09, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for lifting the auto-block of my IP - I was shocked upon seeing that I had been blocked! :) – - kungming· 2 ^(Talk) 07:30, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

User:Alfredosolis

Apparently the sockpuppet reporting page has not been visited by an admin in ages, so I just want to inform you about possible Alfredosolis sockpuppets as can be read here. Gdo01 06:32, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

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Page protection of User talk:Eowbotm1

Hello Netsnipe,

I noticed that you protected the page User talk:Eowbotm1. I was the one that discovered User:Eowbotm and his various socks, and who posted about it on WP:AN/I to get him blocked.

Anyway, since this user is denying that he's Eowbotm1, it may be useful to post this link somewhere on his talk page, which is a diff of an edit where he admits that he is Eowbotm on his user page. I'd do this myself, but the page is protected, so your assistance in the matter would be appreciated.

Thanks in advance! — Lantoka ^{( talk | contrib)} 07:57, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

P.S. This is a better diff.

Follow up: Eowbotm's back on User:Fortunefaded and vandalized your user page. He's blocked now though. —Lantoka ^{( talk | contrib)} 22:28, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

Reviewing blocks

You said: "I'd also like to ask you that in future, for the sake of fairness and due process that you do not decline the unblock requests of users you block yourself unless the request is pure nonsense or abusive. From an ethical, reviews of blocks are meant to be carried out by a 3rd party."

Will do. I thought it was pretty clear in this case, given the editor's user page (GNAA, etc., etc., etc.), that the unblock request was pure nonsense. Also, I was under the impression that the unblock request would still be visible and reviewed by other admins. I'll be more careful in the future. --Yamla 16:28, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

A DB-Attack Article

Hello Netsnipe, this db-attack article has been up for some time now. Could you take a look at it please? Thank you.¤~Persian Poet Gal ^(talk) 06:20, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

Done. --  Netsnipe  ►  06:23, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for unblocking me again!Chamberlian 14:26, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

Block/unblock feature

I know it's been a while, but I've completed the feature you requested, which queries whether the user is blocked or unblocked before directing to the appropriate page. It should work with any user page, including redirects.

It may still have a bug or two, so if you find errors, let me know, along with which page you were on, what your error console/dialog returned as the error, and which browser you're using.

Thanks very much for your idea, and I hope the new feature works as you hoped. haz (talk) e 17:02, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks, but unfortunately, it doesn't work properly. It always brings up Special:Blockip regardless of whether a user is blocked or not. Would you like me to lend you my account for a day so you can debug it? --  Netsnipe  ►  13:44, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

Strange, it works OK for me. For blocked users, it goes straight to the unblock page.

Go to a blocked user's user (talk) page and use User options > Vandals > Current block list. Does the page look like this? Image:Cactions bug ipblocklist.JPG

Probably a silly question, but could you try Ctrl-F5ing?

As for the 2 errors, the first is a global CSS error that's not my doing, I actually reported it this morning to MediaWiki talk:Common.css but was told that it's going to stay there as it's not causing any harm.

I noticed the second error yesterday, as it was the first time that I gave myself "admin" powers on the tool. The script looks for an undelete tab to remove, even if one doesn't exist. Shouldn't be too hard to remove.

Let me know what happens with Ctrl-F5. Oh, another thought: hovering over the "Block/unblock" link, do you get an HTTP or Javascript link coming up in the statusbar? Anyway, get back to me. Haza-w.debug 16:11, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

JS error fixed. Clearly I can't do anything about the CSS error, it's nothing to do with me... I still can't see any reason why "block/unblock" shouldn't be working. Try Ctrl-F5; if that fails, then ding me again. Haza-w.debug 16:36, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

Fixed it! You admin types get an extra "block" link which threw my script right off. Should be fine now. haz (talk) e 16:44, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

Whitelisting 165.21.0.0/16

Thanks, but I believe it should be 165.21.155.0/16? If there is an increase in vandalism, remove it from the whitelist, I will use secure login. --ZhongHan (Email) 13:58, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

SingNet owns 165.21.0.0 - 165.21.255.255. See meta:Range blocks for more details. --  Netsnipe  ►  14:01, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

84.114.131.26

Well, my suspicions panned out (I hate when that happens). Universalgenius (talk • contribs • logs • block user • block log) is definitely an Enlighter1 sock and he's coming from the usual place. I've blocked indefinitely as it's obviously a static IP. Mackensen (talk) 14:05, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

You may want to run a checkuser on Leaderofall (talk • contribs • block user • block log • checkuser) then. Likely a sleeper account in that case. How did you detect that the host was compromised in the first place? Just intuition? --  Netsnipe  ►  14:09, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

A sock tagging

Howdy, you may not remember this, but I'm trying to track down information on why Flinders (talk • contribs) was tagged as a sock of Mattisse (talk • contribs). Was there a RFCU to back this up? The RFCU for Mattisse does not list or confirm this account, and there is no RFCU for Flinders. --Ars Scriptor 15:29, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

Rdsmith4 (talk • contribs) ran the CheckUser. --  Netsnipe  ►  15:49, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks

Thank you for blocking that sock account. I appreciate it. --Gene_poole 01:05, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

Not the first time

...that he's tried this ruse. [1] makes interesting reading. Antandrus (talk) 05:22, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

God's country ?

I was doing a little bit of work on the Pabst Brewing Company page, and out of curiosity did a search on "God's country" to see if anything had been written about their slogan. I found it and its variations were permanently blocked. But I can't see the history. What, pray tell, happened on those pages to compel you or someone else to take such action? Wahkeenah 05:48, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

There's never been an article on "God's country". It's always been the battleground of a silly edit war with anonymous users continuing to redirect it to articles such as Australia, Eastern Suburbs, Sutherland Shire, and even Fascism and has been deleted about 5 times already. If you think you can write a neutral and sourced article about the phrase, please send me a draft and I'll unlock it for you. Thanks. --  Netsnipe  ►  07:01, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

Smile

Brookie :) - a will o' the wisp ! ^(Whisper...) has smiled at you! Smiles promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling to someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Smile at others by adding {{subst:smile}}, {{subst:smile2}} or {{subst:smile3}} to their talk page with a friendly message. Happy editing!

God's country?

Thanks for the note, and for reformatting my talk page. :) No, it's not worth reviving and risking an edit war just to expand on a beer commercial. I was just curious if there was anything about it, as it's apparently a frequently-used phrase. Everyone thinks his homeland is "God's country", I suppose... along with the ironic use, such as Groucho Marx in Animal Crackers (1930 or so), as "Captain Spaulding, the African Explorer", telling his audience, "Africa is God's country... and He can have it!" No, let's leave this one alone. :) Wahkeenah 12:27, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks

Many thanks for your quick action. huongthao 14:25, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

User talk:Sbchilton

Hi, I don't know if you saw it, but this user previously asked to be unblocked and the unblock was declined. He removed the decline template to ask again. -- lucasbfr ^talk 17:30, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

Crap I missed it. Oh well, I've already assumed good faith, and I will be keeping an eye out on that account anyway. Thanks for the heads up. --  Netsnipe  ►  17:32, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

Deleting old instructions

There is no reason to delete things like Wikipedia:Google Web Accelerator. Just tag it as historical. —Centrx→talk • 17:35, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks

Doh-eth! I missed the fact that 65.111.197.34 was a shared/school IP, which was why I blocked for so long. Thanks for catching and fixing my error! --PeruvianLlama^(spit) 19:01, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

On a personal level

On a personal level Netsnipe, thank you for taking care of Izanbardprince and his vandalizing of articles and my personal page. It's nice to know that such behaviour is watched by those in power. God Bless. -- Imgi12 07:48, December 9, 2006 (UTC)

63.215.28.185

Thank you for unblocking me.How do I make a user page? I don't see any thing to edit one. 63.215.28.185 13:46, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

Log back in. Unregistered users don't get user pages. --  Netsnipe  ►  13:49, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

Re: 58.106.134.127

Hi! Sorry we overlapped on their talk page. Should someone file a SSP report on this IP range? I've never done that. Or maybe an RfC? Let me know what I can do. Thanks! -- weirdoactor ^t|c -- 14:32, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

There's no actual sockpuppetry as yet. Just anonymous IP vandalism. Semi-protection will hopefully put a quick stop to that. --  Netsnipe  ►  14:37, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

Check out the contrib links on this talk page. I even tried a "plea for sanity"...I don't think this vandal will "go quietly into that good night". -- weirdoactor ^t|c -- 14:41, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

User:Jaydjenkins

Thanks for the heads-up. You don't find the editing patterns to be a bit, um, disturbing? Users who show up out of the blue and become heavy participants in a contentious AfD, showing good knowledge of Wikipedia guidelines (like notability), scream "shenanigans" to me, at least. (I'm not disputing the unblock; I'm a new admin and am looking for feedback.) | Mr. Darcy talk 15:04, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

There's a difference between single purpose account and sock puppets. You only block the latter if CheckUser proves it or they're being obviously disruptive. Don't forget that friends do ask their friends to help stack votes on Wikipedia, but sometimes those friends editing Wikipedia for the first time stay. If I were you, I wouldn't block any AFD sockpuppets on suspicion alone if they're not vandalising etc. Just use the {{Not a ballot}} and {{spa}} and the closing admin will ignore them. It's just not the risk biting potential newcomers. As for the AFD you're handling, you can blame that on the Gay Nigger Association of America trolls and their war on blogs -- just treat them as white noise. --  Netsnipe  ►  15:15, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

OK, good to know. The other two accounts I blocked were clearly SPAs (and in hindsight, I should have identified them as such), so I'm comfortable with those. Thanks again. | Mr. Darcy talk 15:18, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

IP blocks.

Gotcha. I've restored the block at one week, leaving account creation open as well. The indef was inadvertent; I thought I had set it to a finite duration but obviously selected the wrong item in the pull-down menu. | Mr. Darcy talk 18:00, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

PS, if you think a shorter block is in order, go ahead. I was just looking for something long enough to discourage the editor in question from continuing his assault on Embraer-related articles. | Mr. Darcy talk 18:02, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

There was no point reblocking 89.241.144.42 (talk • contribs • WHOIS • RDNS • RBLs • block user • block log) at all. If you hadn't noticed from the edits to your talk page, he/she had already forced an IP change to 89.241.213.80 (talk • contribs • WHOIS • RDNS • RBLs • block user • block log). In these situations, semi-protection is much more useful than blocks. --  Netsnipe  ►  18:12, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

Semi-protecting a half-dozen or more pages seemed like a bad idea to me; why deny other editors the chance to make legitimate edits? If the user in question starts his shenanigans again from the new IP address, I would temporarily block that one as well (would a few hours be more appropriate?) - but so far, s/he hasn't done so, but has been quite reasonable in discussing the matter. You can just respond here, BTW - no need to repost on my talk page. | Mr. Darcy talk 18:23, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

You've got a equally good point as well.I was thinking you might have resorted to a range block instead. If the user persists, bring it up at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents. --  Netsnipe  ►  18:28, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

TRN UK

TRN UK got recreated by a User whose name is eerily similar to that of the now-blocked hoaxer who created the article originally. Think this one should be blocked as well? User:Zoe|(talk) 20:05, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for removing my autoblock.
Steevven1 ^{(Talk) (Contributions)} 22:09, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

Admin help.

OK, I think I need to undo a bad page move (Czechoslovakia -> Republic of Czechoslovakia). There have been a few edits since then, but it will be easy to re-create them after the undo. What's the best procedure? Rollback the current article (RoC) then move it? I want to make sure I preserve page histories etc. Complicating it is that Czechoslovakia is now a dab page with its own small history. Thanks. | Mr. Darcy talk 23:30, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

Based on the tickings off and super-fast reverts I encountered from the editors of the dab page, I think it's fair to assume that they want the old state of affairs back. Most of the post-30 November edit history looks eminently discardable. I'd suggest just zapping Czechoslovakia, reverting the move, and rolling back the edits to the pre-move state. According me, the last pre-move versions are:

• http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Czech_and_Slovak_Federal_Republic&oldid=86060429
• http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Republic_of_Czechoslovakia&oldid=90941187
• http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Czechoslovak_Socialist_Republic&oldid=86679291

But you might want to double-check that. Apologies for stating the bloody obvious (like Sybil Fawlty, I could compete in the Olympics at that). If Domino theory (talk • contribs) is unhappy, perhaps xe won't do this sort of thing again. Angus McLellan (Talk) 01:15, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

OK, I took a whack at this last night, and started a new discussion at Talk:Czechoslovakia. I think we're all set, but if you notice I did something wrong, let me know. It appears that all the edit histories are where they belong. | Mr. Darcy talk 18:06, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

Fengshui88

Weren't you a little quick on that one? He didn't add any links after he was warned. -Patstuart^talk|edits 08:57, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

Unblocked. Thanks for picking that up. --  Netsnipe  ►  08:59, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

Yes indeed... Please remove Fengshui88's IP address from the "spam" list as it appears you have inadvertently blocked the wrong address. I cannot currently perform any edits. Thanks. -- Zero76 11:16, December 10, 2006 (UTC)

If you are currently blocked, then could you please tell me how you are able to edit my talk page? --  Netsnipe  ►  11:48, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

207.69.137.202

this user is deleting stats from careers of sportsmen. should i revert it? West Brom 4ever 11:51, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

Have you tried communicating with him via his talkpage first? --  Netsnipe  ►  11:52, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

not yet. i'll do it now. if i may ask you to reply on my talk page. thx West Brom 4ever 11:53, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

thanks for welcome. i contacted this user. i'll report you soon about what he/she said. regards, West Brom 4ever 11:55, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

sorry if i'm boring, but here is reply from ip user: West Brom 4ever 12:00, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

== 06-07 stats ==

Wikipedia:WikiProject Ice Hockey/Player pages format#Records

As well, please refrain from updating stats mid-season, as it complicates things and Wikipedia's purpose is not to provide up-to-the-date statistics.

--207.69.137.202 11:57, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

Deletion

why has my page on wikipedia been deleted? (MaltaProducts.com)

a lot of companies have a history and ours is a website that promotes local culture. If the wording was not properly said, then I can reword.

Then how come other companies like these exist:

• Farsons
• Air Malta
• Kinnie

What is the difference between these companies and our website?

Thanks

Neville — The preceding unsigned comment was added by Nevmic (talk • contribs) 17:37, 10 December 2006 (UTC).

Your article failed to establish the notability of your company as required by the criteria set out in the Wikipedia:Notability (companies and corporations) guidelines. You should also note that advertisements masquerading as articles will be deleted for failing the Wikipedia:Neutral point of view policy. If you wish to appeal my deletion, please file an appeal at Wikipedia:Deletion review. --  Netsnipe  ►  17:52, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

Trolling by 81.131.101.50

Archived. I have done this because this critic refuses to disclose his/her identity or follow the proper procedures as set out in Wikipedia:Resolving disputes. --  Netsnipe  ►  20:57, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

Block/unblock bug

Hi Haza, I've found a minor bug. Your unblocking tool needs to encode underscores or spaces in usernames for the unblock user link. --  Netsnipe  ►  08:26, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

Fixed? haz (talk) e 21:01, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

When is it open.

Does anyone know when McDonalds is open? I keep on trying to call them and knocking on the door but no one seems to be answering. If you could provide the pertinent information that would be great. I'm sorry, I'm really hungry. Thank you. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Great Scrivener (talk • contribs) 21:28, 10 December 2006 (UTC).

P.S. Your Cat is Dead

Okay, okay! I've never seen that play before, and I wasn't sure if there was too much information there. My bad :-) P.B. Pilhet / Talk 22:14, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

OOPS! I accidently left you a message intended for someone else. I must be having a bad day :-) Sorry! -- P.B. Pilhet / Talk 22:16, 10 December 2006 (UTC)