Talk:Network For A New Culture

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[edit] re Network For New Culture

A check on this group tells me that it clearly doesn't meet WP:NOTABILITY guidelines, so I've tagged it for deletion. You can remove the tag if you want, but it that case it will just go to WP:AFD, in which case it will most likely be deleted anyway. That is, unless you can show that the group meets our notability guidelines. Herostratus 21:06, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

I respectfully think we (NFNC) might qualify as notable. I have added some of the speakers who have presented - many who have internal wikipedia links. I have not yet removed the warning, hoping that soem of the NFNC folx will see the specific instructions in the warning and help copy edit and add content. Thanks for your patience and assistance in keeping wikipedia accurate and relavant. Paxuscalta 18:25, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

I removed the deletion tag, because it's a time bomb - 5 days with the tag and the article is automatically deleted. And it's intended that the tag (the ProD tag) be removed if any one persons objects. The alternative would be to send the article to WP:AFD, where it can be be discussed by the community at large for seven days. I'm mulling whether to do that or not. Herostratus 07:12, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

Dearest Herostratus: Thank you for pulling the time bomb tag, i am not sure best how to deal with this situation, so your assistance like this is appreciated. it also makes me feel a bit less frantic in dealing with this.

i may have also made the problem of your verification a bit worse by actually misnaming the group. I have listed it as "Network for New Culture" which is what i have always called it. The proper name is "Network for A New Culture". so verifying us with search engine searches on the group (especailly if the entire name is in quotes) MAY have missed articles about us.

Another member of NFNC has read the criteria for group inclusion in wikipedia and believes that it is based on two or more non-trivial articles about the group being published. He has done some searching and found the following: (i quote from his msg - having "wikiafied" the links for easy access):

“The Little Community That Could” This is an article that was written by Geoph Kozeny, and was published in New ConneXion in May 2000 New ConneXion article


So now we have three articles that were published in print magazines or newspapers, and one of them was picked up by another magazine and reprinted.


"The Heart Holds the Power" This is an article written by Teryani Riggs, which was published in Talking Leaves, a print magazine, in the Winter 1999 issue: Heart Holds the Power article


That same article was published in New ConneXion in July 1999 reprint

New ConneXion is a print journal:

“For 14 years New ConneXion has been a leading voice for the new consciousness in the Pacific Northwest . Six times a year 35,000-40,000 free copies are picked up at over 600 health food stores, bookshops, restaurants and cafes, libraries, health centers, universities, shops and street boxes in Portland and throughout Oregon and Washington . The journal reaches over 80,000 readers in print, and our website is getting a million hits a month.”

Here are some links to articles on NFNC, drawn from a google search for: NFNC “New Culture”

Intentional Communities Directory: Listing & description Both printed and on-line

Newspaper article! Washington Spark – June 25, 2005 – p24


Online Review: Firetender.org


Talk given at SC95, by Sten Linnander; published by sexuality.org


(end of quoted msg)

If you think this article should be moved to the WP:AFD for discussion by the greater wikipedia community, we will certainly defer to your judgement - we are novices in this and dont want to run over any of the appropriate protocols or be seen as trying to push our way in.

We have already discussed that if the article is deleted, we would copy the final version and await several articles which have been written for submission to larger subscription periodicals and if they are printed, then we would resubmit with additional recognition.

Should i be adding these above articles to the "External Links" section ?

Thank you again for yor guidance in this.

Paxuscalta 13:39, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

I moved the article to the correct name. No, I'm not going to send it to WP:AFD, although another editor might. But if you put your references you cited here into the body of the article, you should be OK. Just put them in the External links section. If you want to use footnotes, where individual statements link to a particular source(s), see Wikipedia:Footnotes. Cheers, Herostratus 14:14, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for moving the article. i actually need to do this for the Nuclear information and resource service article i edited, which which got saved as lower case for most of the groups organization ame and should be capitaized - can you direct me to hos this is done ? i know ho to create a new article, but how do i redirect existing links to the old one ?

As you suggested, i added the articles in a new section under External Links. We are of course happy you dont feel the need to send us to WP:AFD. Your help is appreciated. Paxuscalta 13:27, 21 November 2006 (UTC)