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[edit] The Meaninglessness of Wikipedia's Licensing

On Talk:Jonti_Picking you stated that other websites were stealing information from Wikipedia. That is true in the sense that they didn't create the information, but Wikipedia is free content under GNU Free Documentation License. Accordingly, "all original material contributed to Wikipedia is deemed to be free content under the GNU Free Documentation License, meaning that it may be freely used, freely edited, freely copied and freely redistributed subject to the restrictions of that license." You can look at Wikipedia to find some more information. Greba 01:58, 10 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Well, what's the point of all this GNU stuff if then Wikipedia is meaningless as an organisation, if anyone can create Wikipedia II by legally taking the original Wikipedia's materials? NeoThe1 06:41, August 16, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Kevin Potvin

Hi NeoThe1.

By chance I was working on a new page for The Republic today and so ended up by following through to Kevin Potvin.

I'm a bit concerned about the POV in your addition. I'm not looking for a fight, I agree that he certainly has strong left leaning politics and that is worth noting. But a phrase like "It is important to understand that..." denotes a strong judgment accompanying the following information.

I didn't change it because there is a sense in your writing that you're not finished. I'll check back in a few days. Cheers. --Bookandcoffee 21:21, 22 October 2005 (UTC)

Mhumm. Corrections made. NeoThe1 00:38, 23 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Edit summary at Djembe

Hi there. It's best practices to avoid inflamatory terms in edit summaries and elsewhere at Wikipedia; it just makes the whole process of creating an encyclopedia much smoother when people avoid unnecessarily ruffling others' feathers. More information can be had at the policy page Wikipedia:Civility. Thanks!  — Saxifrage | ☎ 23:27, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

Blah blah blah. The thought police strikes again. NeoThe1 20:41, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Image:Chuck Palahniuk Roses and Shit Tour 2006.jpg

Is this photo yours? I noticed you marked it with a "fair use" tag. If this is your photo, by uploading it you have automatically licensed it under a free license. (The disclaimer on every page says "You agree to license your contributions under the GFDL" and on the image upload page it says "If you upload a file here to which you hold the copyright, you must license it under a free license or release it into the public domain."--Fallout boy 03:05, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

Yes, it's my image, but I really don't see why I should let Wikipedia own the rights to it. NeoThe1 10:45, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

You have the wrong impression about image licensing. Being under a free license means that anyone can use your image as long as they credit the copyright holder (you). Wikipedia certainly does not own the rights to it, nor do they own the rights to any other GFDL/CC licensed image.--Fallout boy 10:50, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

Alright, fair enough; how do I declare a free image license, then? NeoThe1 11:45, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

Tag it {{GFDL-self}}--Fallout boy 23:35, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

Well, now I know how the licensing works. Thanks! Feel free to delete my redundant comment on your talk page. NeoThe1 00:17, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Philosophy of The Scene

Hi, I tried to write something about philosophy of the scene on talk page as requested. S33k3r 22:12, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] RE: Two Image Licensing Tags

GFDL licenses require attribution and sharing under the same license. {{CopyrightedFreeUseProvidedThat|}} is used for images that the copyright holder allows use for any purpose if certain requirements are met, provided that it is compatible with our image use policy (allows commercial use, modifications, etc).--Fallout boy 21:01, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

When should it not be used? If you are referring to other person's images, if it is already under another license. If you are referring to your own work, you can mark it whatever license you choose as long as it is compatible here.--Fallout boy 01:06, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

The copyright owner is the author of the image. The text of the GFDL here [1]. In plain English, the GFDL says "you can do anything with my image as long as you credit me, acknowledge the licensing terms, and license derivatives under the same license", whereas CopyrightedFreeUseProvidedThat... says "you can do anything with my image, provided that..." --Fallout boy 04:02, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The Manual of Style

Here is the link to Wikipedia's Manual of Style that you asked me for. I hope you find it as useful as I do! -Digresser 16:44, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] House

I'm sorry you went to all the trouble to create your page on the Typical Plot Structure of an episode of House, however...

...oh my. I just looked at your contribs, and you've been in disputes about this exact issue before. Okay.

Well. The thing is, it really doesn't feel like it should be an article. I've listed it on AfD, so it'll go through the full process; who knows, maybe it will be kept. DS 14:00, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

You're an ass. Being part of the article is not OK; being along is not OK... So what the hell am I supposed to do?! This is information relevant to the show. NeoThe1 14:18, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

I'm sorry you feel that way. Incidentally, you might enjoy reading the House episode analyses on Television Without Pity - I never miss them. DS 02:04, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Talk:Trivia for House (TV Series)

You do know that that's not where you vote for AfD's right? You're supposed to vote here. Crazynas 13:12, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

Why don't you just shut the hell up?! I'm almost insanely sick with the flu, the migraines are killing me and you won't even let me correct one little, stupid mistake?! NeoThe1 13:14, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Broken Segoe UI images

Hey, do you have any ideas on how to fix the broken SVGs that I uploaded? I think it might be a bug in MediaWiki. Let me know what you think. — Alex ^(T|C|E) 06:16, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

Hey! Good question. What program did you use to create the images? NeoThe1 06:42, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

Adobe Illustrator CS2. It should have worked, but the first image renders as a PNG only at it's original size, and the second one doesn't render as a PNG at all. I used the same method to create both of them. Weird. — Alex ^(T|C|E) 07:24, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

Here's a bug check: I saved the original file to my computer and re-uploaded it to another name.

Original:

Re-uploaded:

— Alex ^(T|C|E) 07:32, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Image Tagging for Image:Helvetica font new.svg

Thanks for uploading Image:Helvetica font new.svg. The image has been identified as not specifying the source and creator of the image, which is required by Wikipedia's policy on images. If you don't indicate the source and creator of the image on the image's description page, it may be deleted some time in the next seven days. If you have uploaded other images, please verify that you have provided source information for them as well.

For more information on using images, see the following pages:

• Wikipedia:Image use policy
• Wikipedia:Image copyright tags

This is an automated notice by OrphanBot. For assistance on the image use policy, see Wikipedia:Media copyright questions. 11:05, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Possibly unfree Image:Granville Street Map.jpg

OK, what should I mark it as, then? NeoThe1 05:59, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

Hi, sorry about not coming back sooner. The issue is that the maps on Google Maps are all rights reserved, so they're not free for use on Wikipedia.

You might be able to claim fair use, though the best bet might be asking over at Wikipedia:Maps. Ytny 21:27, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Vancouver Wikipedians Meetup

Greetings, you're getting this spam (courtesy of Tawkerbot) because you were listed on Wikipedia:WikiProject_Vancouver. In short, we're trying to have a meetup and we'd appreciate it if you'd join our Yahoo Group setup to figure out a time/place that would work. You can find the group at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vancouver_wikipedians/. If you have any questions feel free to make a post there or on the WikiProject page.

Happy Editing!

Sorry, can't make it; I'm currently in Japan. ;) NeoThe1 06:00, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Unfree images in userspace

Hi. In re your comment, you don't have a choice about "standing for it" or not. Unfree images cannot be republished in userspace. Please remove all of those images from your userspace. If you won't do it, I, or someone else, will. Looking over your talkpage, I note that your edit summary of "fucking nitpicker" seems to be par for the course of the level of civility you're capable of. This needs dramatic improvement if you're interested in contributing to the project. Regardless of what you think about Wikipedia's rules about license and copyright, or community behaviour, you need to accept them when you contribute here. Jkelly 15:51, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

a) Fuck you and your fucking hippie "oh, boo-hoo, unfree images" friends.

b) If you want a childish war, you got it. Thank god for proxy servers and dynamic IPs. I promise you, your fucking account will not have any more peace. I will do the most I can to fuck with you here, under any username, IP address or subnet I have to, you motherfucking piece of shit. Get out of my fucking user page. It has my name at the top and you have no fucking right to edit it.

c) Don't let my diction mislead you; it's just that I'm not going to honour you with polite responses. You're a self-righteous, sneaky little piece of shit and you are not worth a second more of my time. You, as well as the fucking horse you rode in on can i) fuck each other, then ii) fuck your mother, and then, as a grand finale, iii) go fuck yourself. Do I make myself clear, you fucking cocksucker? Cheers. NeoThe1 11:02, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] No personal attacks or blanking

Please see Wikipedia's no personal attacks policy. Comment on content, not on the contributor; personal attacks damage the community and deter users. Note that continued personal attacks may lead to blocks for disruption. Please stay cool and keep this in mind while editing. Thank you. Specifically, you need to remove the list of people you hate from your user page. — BrianSmithson 11:25, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

I suppose this one applies, as well, since you blanked another user's page:

Welcome to Wikipedia. We invite everyone to contribute constructively to our encyclopedia. Take a look at the welcome page if you would like to learn more about contributing. However, unconstructive edits are considered vandalism. If you continue in this manner you may be blocked from editing without further warning. Please stop, and consider improving rather than damaging the work of others. Thank you. — BrianSmithson 11:32, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Blocked indefinitely

I have blocked you indefinitely, after seeing that you replaced unfree images in your user space, going against the policy which you are aware of, and after seeing that you have been repeatedly engaging in extremely vile personal abuse. Note that "indefinite" does not have to mean "permanent". If you indicate that you are willing to follow our policies, I'm certainly prepared to consider unblocking. AnnH ♫ 19:12, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

Fine, to hell with you, you fascist assholes; no more blanking or hate-lists, here's my promise, for all it's worth. Having said this, anyone who edits another person's page is still an asshole, a fact I believe I have just now amply proved by example. Let's get with the unblocking now, eh; tell me what to remove from my fucking user page and I'll do it myself, OK?! NeoThe1 11:09, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

Okay, I have unblocked you, although I think your manner of asking suggests that you need to work on your communication skills. If you go in for a job interview and use such language, you're not very likely to get the job. Anyway, you're unblocked — I don't believe in forcing people to grovel. I'm certainly prepared to respect your dignity and allow you to remove whatever is objectionable from your user page yourself. Basically, it should not have any unfree images on it. If you click on each image, you'll see that some of them say "fair use" on them. Those ones must go. If you particularly want to, you can link to them from your user page, by putting a colon directly after the second square bracket, and before the word image. The list of people you hate must also be removed. And do stop the foul language, and the blanking of other people's user pages. The former is a violation of WP:NPA; the latter is a violation of WP:POINT (as well as being vandalism). If you need any advice or help, let me know. Cheers. AnnH ♫ 13:22, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Where did my user page go to now? NeoThe1 05:57, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

Fucking nevermind. I figured out how to revert it. Anyways, a) it is prudentially advisable to separate one's identities, that is, real-life situations from pseudo-shitholes like this so-called encyclopaedia, which I only edit because it is an atrocity against knowledge. Having said that, I got a job in Japan just a month ago, so my language is pretty fucking adequate for job interviews, at least selon moi. To attest to the comfort and multiplicity of Internet personas which I endorse, you only need to read the writing I take seriously, namely this shit: [2]. b) It's good that you don't make people grovel. That would probably piss me off and cause me to install a proxy server on my machine and write a script that would randomise IP addresses and blank (or, better yet, selectively sabotage, in minute ways) important articles or the user pages of persons I find objectionable. This is not a threat, just a twofold indication of i) the fallibility of Wikipedia as an editable "encylopedic" medium and ii) how much some of the stupid regulations around here can piss a person off. c) "Fair use" is a bunch of nonsense jibber-jabber to me. Tell me what to remove or change to link form, and I will do it. d) "Foul" language? What are you, a witch from Mac fucking beth? Anyways, you do what you have to do, and tell me what I need to fix, and I will do it myself, OK? Alright. Good. Fuckin' A. Cheers. NeoThe1 06:12, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

I wrote: Basically, it should not have any unfree images on it. If you click on each image, you'll see that some of them say "fair use" on them. Those ones must go. You had eleven images on your user page; two of them were "fair use". To have clicked on each of them, one by one, in order to find out which of them were "fair use", would have taken you less time that to write that aggressive message, but you didn't bother. You simply restored them all. You can consider yourself lucky that I haven't blocked you indefinitely again, as Jimbo has said that we are to block in the case of deliberate copyright violations. I purposely waited because I felt it would annoy you if I removed them, but I had told you that it was the "fair use" ones that had to go, and it would have taken you a maximum of two minutes to find out which ones were fair use. You're getting quite close to "exhausting the community's patience". (If you don't know what that means, it means getting blocked indefinitely, and not being able to find any admin who's willing to unblock you.) And as for your obscenities and the witches in Macbeth, I prefer Desdemona, particularly in Act 4, Scene 2, lines 121–3 from Othello. I recommend that passage to you. AnnH ♫ 10:51, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, it's just that I misunderstood this bullshit from before: "If you particularly want to, you can link to them from your user page, by putting a colon directly after the second square bracket, and before the word image." Alright, fine; I removed the links to those two images. Happy?! You fascists are everywhere. "The community's patience." Very democratic this place is.

P.S. RE: Othello: Yeah. Cute.