Talk:Neo (The Matrix)

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Please provide a referrence for The One being a reference to Aeon. --Dante Alighieri 19:14 21 May 2003 (UTC)

I ponder whether this should be merged with The Matrix... Martin 23:51 31 May 2003 (UTC)

as the character begins to believe that is the prophesized "one", he abandons the name "Thomas Anderson" and begins to go by "Neo". If I remember well, he is and has always been called Neo by all "real" humans. Only Smith and his boss in the Matrix call him Anderson. --FvdP 21:32 22 Jun 2003 (UTC)

Nod: IIRC, Neo is his "hacker alias", which he uses well before being freed. Similarly for Trinity.

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The last paragraph is almost, but not quite, an exact quote from the film. It should probably be changed to either a properly cited exact quote or a better paraphrase. -- SS 15:00, 22 Aug 2004 (UTC)

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Contents 1 Page move ? 1.1 Thomas A. Anderson → Neo (Matrix character) 2 "Thomas" - meaning 3 The Rainbow and Sunset Changes 4 Vandalism by Someone at 86.129.xxx.xxx 5 Sources and opinions 6 Image Use 7 Myspace Tom 8 Citing sources 9 Significance of the name "Thomas A. Anderson"

[edit] Page move ?

I figured I'd ask first, so I think that it would be better to move this page to Neo (Matrix character) to match the naming convention that most of The Matrix characters are under. Also, since Wikipedia convention says to use what name most people would recognize, I believe Neo works better than Thomas A. Andersen. Any objections? --Ricky81682 (talk) 09:00, Dec 31, 2004 (UTC)

-- Nope... I agree with you. -- Sourcecode 18:21, 31 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Agreed - did anybody even remember Neo's middle initial? Does anyone actually call him "Thomas Anderson" in convential conversation? Also this article needs work - grammatically, and content-wise. It doesn't seem quite NPOV and doesn't give a whole lot of information, particularly concerning the second and third films. - Chardish 04:01, 20 Jan 2005 (UTC)

An anonymous user just tried to do the move suggested above, but I reversed it because it was done via copy & paste, which is improper and disrespective of other editors (not to mention the GFDL). The destination title will have to be deleted for the move to work, but if the move is still desired I can do that too. -- Hadal 20:08, 1 Feb 2005 (UTC)

I don't see really see anyone disagreeing with the move, so I'd go ahead. --Ricky81682 (talk) 05:23, Feb 2, 2005 (UTC)

This article has been renamed after the result of a move request:

[edit] Thomas A. Anderson → Neo (Matrix character)

Per Wikipedia:Naming conventions (common names), I think most people would recognize the character by his name in the 'real' world. Also, this would allow the name to match the style of the majority of the names found in Category:Matrix characters -- Ricky81682 (talk) 05:35, Feb 10, 2005 (UTC)

• Without a doubt, the saddest move I've ever seen proposed here. Uh... support, I guess. ADH (t&m) 06:46, Feb 10, 2005 (UTC)
• I would look for either "Neo" or "Mr. Anderson" (and the latter is already taken). —Mike 07:32, Feb 10, 2005 (UTC)
• Support - I can't actually believe it's at that title. sjorford:// 20:18, 10 Feb 2005 (UTC)
• Not that I am greatly interested in this particular subject, but technically wouldn't a Neo (The Matrix) or maybe more accurately Neo (Matrix series) format be better for this sort of thing?--Pharos 21:33, 10 Feb 2005 (UTC)
• Support. I don't really know if they're proper, but FWIW, all the other Matrix chars that need disamb'd title use the proposed from, eg Oracle (Matrix character). Niteowlneils 22:32, 15 Feb 2005 (UTC)

[edit] "Thomas" - meaning

Being as how my name is Thomas I was surprised to read the entry here that Thomas means "two" as I have been brought up surrounded by the knowledge that it derives from the Aramaic te'oma meaning "twin". ThomasWinwood 04:34, 6 Apr 2005 (UTC)

[edit] The Rainbow and Sunset Changes

I've changed back the edit by User:Dejvid as of this date. At 1:58:39 in Matrix Revolutions we see the Oracle's face become illuminated with a sunrise after she and the Architect talk in the last moment of twilight. Rainbows do not illuminate, and while what the Oracle sees is colorful, a sunrise is not a rainbow. There are just a number of clouds in the sky, and it is also the first time we see the Matrix without the harsh green sheen. Let's leave it at "sunrise" as the evidence here is pretty clear. Spencerian 17:12, 25 July 2005 (UTC)

I stand correctedDejvid 17:22, 25 July 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Vandalism by Someone at 86.129.xxx.xxx

Wikipedia is not a place to playfully vandalize. If you like to make a parody of Wiki, download the open source code and have at it. I know such a site would be very, very amusing. But what you are doing here is just wrong, even if I did laugh for a moment at your silly cut-and-replace.

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"Neo infers incorrectly that the Oracle has said that he is not the One."

I watched this film less than 24 hours ago. She actually says "you're not the One." It isn't an incorrect inference, he just incorrectly assumes that what she says is the truth. She has to tell him that otherwise he would never have actually become "the One". - She says he has to choose between his life and that of Morpheus, so he goes in. If she hadn't have said that, he would possibly not have tried to save Morpheus...

Nope

Oracle: But you already know what I'm going to tell you...

Neo: I'm not the one...

Oracle: Sorry kid, you got the gift - but it looks like you're waiting for something.

Neo: What?

Oracle: Your next life maybe, who knows?

She didn't tell him he wasn't the One, she was seeing if he "Knew Himself" - and at that point, he didn't. In his 'next life' (after his death at Smith's hands), he would. (195.92.168.167 11:51, 24 January 2006 (UTC))

I'd interpret "you got the gift" as an explicit statement that he *is* the One, or at least that he will be.--74.104.131.76 03:25, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

So i dunt get it. does neo still live after the matrix revolutions?

It certainly looks like he's dead (and he's treated as dead, but respected, by the machine intelligences in the denouement).--74.104.131.76 03:25, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Sources and opinions

Please, can we eliminate all the opinions in this article and adhere closely to what actually is (and not what others think they might be)? MatrixVendetta 12:11, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Image Use

Unless I am mistaken - fair use policy on wikipedia says one screenshot per article. Most images on this page are screenshots, and thus is violating image policy rules. I suggest all but one be taken down. strideranne 09:39, 14 June 2006 (UTC)strideranne

[1] I don't see mention here (in a cursory examination) of any numeric limit; just that screenshots to illustrate TV, movie, or videogame articles "for critical commentary" are fair use.--74.104.131.76 03:32, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Myspace Tom

I think it's odd that Myspace's mascot, Tom Anderson, has a very similar name. --70.28.114.31 00:26, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Citing sources

"This article does not cite its sources"

Seems to me the movies themselves ought to be considered sources, even ones whose explicit citation is not required because they are self-evident and well-known sources (and links that lead to further information about the movies and the opportunity to obtain copies of the movies themselves abound here, and at other Matrix-related articles with similar notices attached). Of course, unsourced statements that aren't fairly obvious to anyone who's watched the movies would still need citations added...--74.104.131.76 03:29, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Significance of the name "Thomas A. Anderson"

Elsewhere it's been suggested that Thomas A. Anderson has nothing to do with "It Conquered the World", but rather, breaks down as follows: "Thomas" -> doubting, "Anderson" -> son of man, i.e. a Messiah who (while he still goes by the name Thomas Anderson) does not know that he is one and later when told he might be remains skeptical for some time.--74.104.131.76 03:44, 26 November 2006 (UTC)