Talk:Negiah
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I removed a list of related prohibitions which was somewhat out of the scope of this article. JFW | T@lk 22:56, 18 March 2006 (UTC)
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[edit] siblings
I have removed that touching siblings is permitted. Shulkhan Arukh:Even HaEzer 21, 7
- המחבק או המנשק אחת מהעריות שאין לבו של אדם נוקפו עליהם, כגון אחותו הגדולה ואחות אביו וכיוצא בהם, אע"פ שאין לו שום הנאה כלל הרי זה מגונה ביותר ודבר איסור הוא ומעשה טפשים, שאין קרובים לערוה כלל, בין גדולה בין קטנה, חוץ מהאב לבתו ומהאם לבנה
Jon513 17:58, 19 March 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Talmudic Source
I know it says Shabbat 12, but reading through that daf, I don't see anything regarding negiah. Could someone check this out -- just want a clarification. Thanks!!
- Try Shabbat 13a, around 8 lines from the bottom. Thanks for pointing this out - I will change it. --DLand 02:18, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Doctors and Dentists
My understanding is that physicians and dentists are permitted to touch members of the opposite gender since it's done in the course of their professional duties. Hence, it's permitted regardless of whether a life is in danger.
Can anyone confirm if I'm correct (the article implies otherwise)?
- I believe that is correct. I would be better if you can source it. Jon513 17:15, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
I think the June 6 revision created that implication. I will restore the prior version.
[edit] Menses
Negiah, as it is generally understood, is a distinct law from Niddah#Guiding_marital_relations. I think the references to ritually unclean and menses should be removed.
- you are right, the laws of niddah are stricter. In any event it needs to be changed, as now it implies that there is no prohibition if the woman is a non-niddah. Jon513 14:57, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
While niddah is not, strictly speaking, the underlying categorical prohibition protected by the issur negiah, nevertheless, as negiah is so often commonly thought of and experienced regarding non-family members where niddah IS the underlying cause, a reference to hilchos niddah is mandatory for this entry to have any explanatory value whatsoever.
[edit] Relations with Gentiles
I think it may be appropriate to include a section to explain why, when a person observes negiah, that some Western social conventions, like handshaking, are not used with a person of the opposite sex. As a gentile, it took me a while to understand that this is not a form of snubbing but a gesture of respect. What do others think?
- go for it. Jon513 16:21, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
