Talk:Neartown Houston

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[edit] Article name

There seems to be dissension regarding the name of this article. Exclusion of "Neartown Houston" from the title ignores the area's history, but exclusion of "Montrose" from the title ignores current convention in both the media and among Houston residents. Perhaps a compromise label of "Neartown Houston/Montrose" will satisfy both camps. 128.42.86.10 18:07, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

Please do not revert this talk page comment. If you do not like the compromise I suggested, that is fine. However, this comment should stay, as it expresses a potentially valid suggestion. I hope we can just agree to disagree. If you revert again, though, I will have to take this to the Wikiquette alert page. Thank you. 128.42.86.24 01:15, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

If you insist to have an article titled Montrose, then go and write a new article. Just make sure whatever you write in that article reflects within the boundary of Montrose proper—which can't be said much. The actual Montrose neighborhood is small. See talk archive of this lengthy discussion. Try not to bring back old issues over and over. I am getting tired of arguing with the same person who does not want to sign in with multiple IP addresses. Quit being a coward by signing in when you discuss about this topic and stop creating sockpuppets/multiple IPs. I know that you and other IPs that have been trolling this talk page are all one person. Your writing style and tone are not hard to guess who you really are. —RJN 01:19, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for being reasonable and not reverting. I am neither a sockpuppet nor a coward. Before you accuse me of such, you should present your credentials in forensic graphology to support your claim. I do not care whether or not you add a "Montrose" section. I just wanted my comment to be left as is, and now that you are no longer violating Wikiquette, I am content. 128.42.86.23 03:20, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
Montrose is a "neighborhood" that is located within Neartown, an "area" which contains more than one neighborhood. If we were to talk about Montrose (the neighborhood) technically, almost all of the materials in this article would need to be deleted. The actual Montrose is very small and there is really nothing to talk about. Most of the materials in this article is about the surrounding area, which falls under Neartown. I'll create a section within this article exclusively for Montrose. —RJN 01:36, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
Many "neighborhoods" thought to be Montrose include Westmoreland, Avondale, Mandell Place, Winlow Place, Courtlandt Place, Hyde Park, and Cherryhurst. The materials in this article represent these neighborhoods—not just Montrose—and therefore must be appropriately named Neartown. In summary, Neartown is not just Montrose and vice versa—it is an area with a collection of many neighborhoods that are all thought to be Montrose. —RJN 01:37, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
This article talks about a defined area (Neartown)—not a neighborhood (Montrose). —RJN 01:40, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Plagiarism

Material in this entry uses language identical to some in a New York Times story, 'In Montrose, Houston First Went Boom', by Kathryn Jones on March 24, 2002. This link requires registration:

http://travel2.nytimes.com/2002/03/24/travel/MONT.html

In particular, much of the story's third paragraph has been copied into this entry verbatim. Since this entry doesn't appear to have even existed in 2002, I have to assume the NY Times story is the original material. I also assume it's too much to ask for the original author to revise or cite.

I bring it up because while citations would be helpful throughout this entry, this seems to be more of a matter of theft.

I'm not sure what should be done. I'd like to avoid useless pedantic altercations.

Thornrag 16:40, 26 August 2006 (UTC)