Talk:Near passerine

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By whose/what standard is the term "near passerine" defined? Is there any official definition?

For example, how many of these orders have the characteristic foot shape of the passerines - three toes forward, one back? And how much variation is there in the relative lengths of the toes? -- Smjg 16:46, 14 August 2005 (UTC)

I don't know if there is an official definition, but it's commonly used to describe land birds other than the raptors, ie those that could be mistaken for passerines jimfbleak 17:13, 14 August 2005 (UTC)
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