Talk:Nazi-Skinhead
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[edit] Rename article?
Shouldn't the article be called Nazi Skinhead ? --Loading 4 July 2005 20:25 (UTC)
- I'm not sure. Sam Spade 16:52, 6 November 2005 (UTC)
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- They do tend to be perceived as a group, not as a discrete number of individuals. Besides, there is no Nazi Skinhead style movement, separate and distinct from Skinhead itself; although recent developments suggest Nazi Skinheads are now prepared to permit entry to people who clearly are not skinheads at all for the sake of getting members.
- Nuttyskin 06:02, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
[edit] idiots, fools and bigots
I removed the "They are idiots, fools and bigots." part since it is irrelevant and not neutral. --Anzuhan 14:56, 6 November 2005 (UTC)
- good edit, you'll make a fine wikipedian. Sam Spade 16:52, 6 November 2005 (UTC)
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- However, you can say whatever you think here. My opinion is then the same as the removed statement. I don't understand how can an intellectual person can be so racist. I believe that you have to be dumb in at least one way in order to think that you are better than people of other races.
- Hey, see that black person in the street? Let's all beat him to the point where he develops a neurological problem. He's not doing anything to hurt us; he hasn't even said anything. He is defenseless, and we are many. Let's all be cowards and beat him up together without giving him a chance! Remember why we hate him - he has a different skin color than us. This means that he is not a person, and we have the right to hurt him. To kill him.
- You could have an increadible IQ, but if you believe that in doing such things or thinking in the same mentality you are creating a better world, you are indeed a fool, idiot, or bigot. BirdValiant 00:10, 4 February 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Skinheads are different to Neo-Nazis
"In Germany these groups are often called "Kameradschaften", and are frequently associated with far right political parties like the NPD."
From the Verfassungsschutz report of 2004 it states that Kameradeschaften are groups of Neo-Nazis in Germany, NOT skinheads, and also that although skinheads do attend NPD rallies, the two groups like to keep their distance from one another - the skinheads disliking the organisation of the NPD and as the NPD are trying to give out a more intellectual image they mostly only want the skinheads present at their rallies to help make up numbers. Maybe someone could clear this up?
the link is: [1]
[edit] Shaved heads
So, why do they do it? I pretty much came to check this article to learn why they shave their heads, and considering black people do this oftenly, I was curious to know why. Article didn't deliver, though.--Saoshyant talk / contribs (I don't like Wikipedophiles) 11:58, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
- It's because they stole the image from real skinheads, who were in fact greatly influenced by black people, specifically West Indian immigrants to The United Kingdom. That's covered in the article, with the sentence that starts "Although the original skinhead subculture had heavy British Mod and Jamaican Rude boy influences — including a love for Ska and Soul music..." Spylab 12:51, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
They didn't "stole" that image. Apolitical skinheads are not "real" skinheads. I think the shaved head has somethink to do with working class culture. Many workers shaved their head (and they still do it), because they cannot work properly if they have long hair. There are no "bad" or "good" skinheads. The majority of skinheads are National Socialists, because National Socialism was appealing to British white working class in the 80s. Mitsos 10:08, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
- It's already been demonstrated several times that almost everything you write about skinheads on Wikipedia is totally false, and is distorted by your neo-Nazi and Greek-centric agenda. Your post above merely continues this trend. Spylab 14:09, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
Have you ever thought why out of all the youth subcultures, only the skinhead subculture was identified with National Socialism? Why not rockers, bikers or punks? Why skinheads? Just think about it, before you say that "everything I write about skinheads on Wikipedia is totally false" Mitsos 20:22, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
- The following subcultures have also had significant numbers of people involved with white power or neo-Nazism: Rednecks, Teddy Boys, Greasers, Bikers, Nazi Punks, Metalheads (especially Black Metal fans), Hardcore fans, Gabbers, Casuals and even certain segments of the Goth scene. Why the media focusses on skinheads, I'm not totally sure. People in the mainstream media are sometimes prejudiced and lazy when it comes to subcultures. I've even seen the media label long-haired neo-Nazis as skinheads, when it's obvious that the person has nothing to do with the skinhead culture.Spylab 22:32, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
It's not the media focussing on skinheads, the skinhead subculture is dominated by "neo-Nazis". The other subcultures have "significant numbers" of National Socialists, but they cannot be compared with the number of Nazi-Skins. 80% of skinheads are National Socialists. Mitsos 09:08, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
- That's not true, and it's not backed up by any reliable source. There is no accurate collection of worldwide statistics outlining the various political beliefs of skinheads, but I can guarantee that there's no way that 80% of skinheads are Nazis. Just because someone has short hair and calls himself a skinhead (or gets called a skinhead by the authorities or groups like the Anti-Defamation League) doesn't mean he is actually a skinhead. There's a lot more to it.Spylab 14:48, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
"Just because someone has short hair and calls himself a skinhead (or gets called a skinhead by the authorities or groups like the Anti-Defamation League) doesn't mean he is actually a skinhead. There's a lot more to it." What more??? Mitsos 14:50, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
