Talk:Native American music

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Contents 1 WikiProject Countering systemic bias 2 Canada 3 Delisted GA 4 Terminology 5 How to categorise "Indigenous Australian music" or "Native American music" 6 Notes on organization 7 History

[edit] WikiProject Countering systemic bias

This article appears to be Western anthropocentric in much of its language. Later writers, after Nettl, abandon "primitive" references to American Indian peoples and music altogether, and opted for "exclusively oral" as a substitute. Much of this article appears to be couched in anthological and not contemporary understandings of the history and pedagogy of American Indian music. I will endeavor to add more information and references, and clean up the outdated biased language. It may take awhile, but i will work on it. --Brent Michael Davids 18:47, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

There are contemporary anthropologists. It would also be great to have other perspectives in addition to those provided by anthropology or ethnography. Hyacinth 06:40, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Canada

It is my understanding that Canadians refer to their Native Americans as being of the "First Nations". Should there be a redirect from First Nations music (treating it as an airplane/aeroplane difference) or should we move it Native American and First Nations music? And the Inuit are included here, but they are sometimes classed as separate... maybe that should be changed. Tuf-Kat 07:37, Jan 2, 2004 (UTC)

I have boldly decided to treat this as a difference in Canadian/American English. Thus, First Nations music will redirect here and the American term will be used throughout. Tuf-Kat 07:43, Jan 19, 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Delisted GA

There are no images. slambo 17:47, 23 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Terminology

According to the Oxford Guide to Canadian English Usage, Inuit (and Métis for that matter, although they aren't listed here for some reason) are not considered "Native American" or "First Nations". They can only be correctly described as "First Peoples" (comprising Inuit, Métis, and First Nations) or "Inuit". Muckapedia 18h42, Apr 3, 2006 (EST)

[edit] How to categorise "Indigenous Australian music" or "Native American music"

See the discussion at Talk:Indigenous music. Paul foord 10:58, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Notes on organization

Characteristics and role in society - 4

Academia - 2

Song - 3

|Instrumentation - 3

Regions - 1

Northern Canada - 2

Northwwest Coast - 2

California - 2

Great Basin - 2

Southwest - 2

Great Plains - 2

Great Lakes - 2

Southeast - 2

Northeast - 2

Pantribalism - 3

[edit] History

• However, their historical authenticity can not be verified by western standards, and thus written histories of Native American music are scarce (Crawford, pg. 3 Crawford refers to the "historical knowledge valuable to a Native musician" as falling "more readily into the category of myth than of fact").

I find the above unclear. Does it mean that written histories of Native American music scarce because Native American's created and recreated oral histories and thus didn't create written history or that Europeans didn't bother to create written histories because Native Americans hadn't? Hyacinth 06:50, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

Well, both, kinda (but the first is what I was going for). I'll see if I can clarify in a minute. Tuf-Kat 00:25, 21 November 2006 (UTC)