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[edit] Fact Dispute

In this page, her birthday is listed as March 15, 1967, and yet the Japenese page, her birthday is March 15, 1966. Which one is correct?

One Japanese website lists it as 1966, not 1967. In her manga and the artbooks her year of birth is not officially listed. On the official website when her profile was listed, she did not list the year of birth. The Japanese websites I've seen though, list 1966, not 1967. She did say she was 30 by the time of the end of Sailor Moon and wanted her 20's back in Princess Naoko Takeuchi Back-to-Work Punch!! Sailormoon ended 1997, but this would have been after her birthday, making the date a bit ambiguous. I'll do some more searching since only 3 people have worked on her wiki page. Either way I doubt she'd correct the 1967 because it makes her appear younger. ^.~ But, yeah I'll try to verify.
Hitsuji Kinno 19:34, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
Here are the conflicting sources in question: http://zatugaku.jp/b-04.htm, http://www.tcp.com/doi/mangaka/takeuchi-naoko.html The thing is that both owners are Japanese. So to get it to work out one would have to retract. Most English-speaking pages got the date from Hitoshi Doi, but there are no official sources for this.
The only official source that we have is this (from Punch!!):
Narration: Then, since I was out of material, Sailor Moon ended in February 1997.
Comment: Whenever I see the last kiss scene of the anime, tears pour.
Naoko: All right! Give me lots of vacation!
Comment: Really, my body and spirit were worn out, and I was in a daze.
Narration: I thought I'd be able to rest for about a year...
Chief editor: I'll give you five months.
Narration: I only received five months. Here, at thirty, if I got five months vacation, I'd think it was great. *clip*
So the question stands still what year it is exactly, but this is the cloest we have. Unless someone who writes fluent Japanese wants to e-mail both parties to name their sources, I don't know if we'll get an official date. Hitoshi Doi's page is older.
Hitsuji Kinno 20:01, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Trivia

Stuff like "her blood type is A" and the fact that she's right-handed doesn't have a place in an encyclopedia article, I suspect--it makes the article sound like this is a fan page, which it's not--it's an encyclopedia article. See Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not.  :-) Sorry Bob, I'm not really trying to pick on you.  :-) --Larry_Sanger

I moved it to a "trivia" section. Perhaps not Encyclopedia Brittanica material, but fine for Wikipedia. I personally feel it makes entries more interesting, but it should be placed in the proper category (and I really have no idea who this person is, apart from what is in the article). —Frecklefoot 17:08, 17 Nov 2003 (UTC)

[edit] Confusing terminology

I have no idea what (Bishoujo Senshi Sera Muun) Takeuchi-sama (beginning of second paragraph) is supposed to mean. Is this an alternate spelling or representation of her name? Also, I have no idea what the paragraph regarding "Inner Senshi" and "Outer Senshi" is supposed to be referring to. I suppose Anime fans might understand it, but non-fans probably won't. Is there someone who is familiar with this stuff explain it in layman's terms? If it's not important, just delete it. :-) —Frecklefoot 17:08, 17 Nov 2003 (UTC)

I rewrote the first sentence of the second paragraph because it was confusing to me, too (and I am a fan!) and the third paragraph was ridiculous for a biographical article on the artist. A discussion of terminology specific to a particular work of an artist belongs in an article discussing that work, not in the biographical brief of the artist.

Iceberg3k 12:47, 12 Mar 2004 (UTC)

I took out the snide remark that was added to the Punch part and added link information for the sources. I also rearranged the manga material (yet again) in the order that it was published. Toki Meka has to be listed twice as it was published and then resumed at a later date with a different plot.

I'll add more information about her, since I have the resources that no one else seems to. I'll try to fix a few of the other things in the article. It's not fair to take information from pages without credit.

--Hitsuji Kinno 1:48 March 31, 2005

[edit] General Clean-up

Someone marked the page for clean up. So I fixed the only problem with the page-- I deleted that. Also, in terms of "the Clean up Project" This page does not qualify for combining into another section. This is because there are tons of works under this particular author, and I guarentee it is ten times more detailed than the majority of the mangaka pages (I just fixed Watase Yuu's page which was 10 times more pathetic.) This page is not too short to stand on its own either. So I can't see how it qualifies. Try it again... and I'll delete it again, until you explain yourself.

--Hitsuji Kinno 02:07, September 5, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Toki*Meca

Here's a clean-up for you.. It's Toki*Meka for the first one, and then Toki*Meca for the second one. The title has not, or will it ever be Toki*Mecha.

People might ask *why?* Well, very simply it's a long series of puns, that I'm not sure that should be listed here, which is why I'm starting a section to the series about it.

Puns: 1. Meka (as in the kanji for the word) reads Meka. It's an actual Japanese kanjied word. 2. Mecha (As in Mechanical) 3. Tokimeki, as in heartbeat, also the name of the kinds of robots in the series. 4. The character's anme is Meca. 5. The small version of her is called Meka (in hiragana, I believe)

By spelling it Meca, it monopoloizes on ALL of those delicious puns, also the front of the manga cover reads as such.

I'll keep changing it back if someone changes it again. Meca no Meka is not incorrect. Both are right, but for different reasons. Hitsuji Kinno 03:04, 19 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Headshot

I added a headshot with the appropiate tag of fairuse photo promo on it from my own website. I also added the ending date for Toki*Meca because I have the issue which says it ended in May 2006. Hitsuji Kinno 20:25, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] List of Influences backed by interviews?

Anyone objection to listing influences, such as Leiji Matsumoto whom she said she traced in HS as long as it has backing from sources, or is this clutter? --Hitsuji Kinno 14:51, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

Sounds great. --Masamage 18:18, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Edits Made

Right, so I added in references, Reference section, See also section, and reworked the works to "List of works" to be consistent with the other mangaka pages I looked through. This page just need a bit of tweaking, and I think we can request an upgrade for evaluation... Information that used to be here 5 years ago on her is missing now. >.<;; Makes my life so much harder. The interview she had with another mangaka is not there anymore and more than half seem to have bit the dust hard. The other thing it needs is the awards she has won and basic reception to her work. Things that reflect who she is outside of the fandom and more as a professional. However, this info is thin and the majority relates to SM... --Hitsuji Kinno 05:52, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Upgrade the grade?

Is this enough to upgrade the grade from start to B? Or Does it need something more. I'll request an evaluation if someone else doesn't. --Hitsuji Kinno 06:07, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

Definitely looks B-worthy to me. In fact, it was originally assessed by Squilibob as a B, then downgraded by Denelson to Start. Ordinarily I wouldn't rank articles I'm involved with, but 1) it was already ranked this way by an outsider, 2) that was altered by an insider, and 3) it's improved since then anyway. I'll change it back now; if anyone disagrees feel free to say so. --Masamage 19:03, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Image issues

Every time I add an image and do all the appropriate things the image gets taken out and then someone complains they want a head shot. --;; What gives? I put up the correct tag and then it gets taken down... *sighs* Anyone want to discuss this, I have the image here: http://sensei.takeuchi-naoko.com/naoko.jpg . What license do I use to not make people squeal that's not allowed? Because it seems that people object no matter what, then I remove the need picture tag then someone takes away the picture and puts back the tag at the top. --;; BTW, I think there should be a mangaka info box... for birth, etc. --Hitsuji Kinno 03:20, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

Since she is a living person, the only license that's allowed is a free one (GFDL, CC-BY, CC-BY-SA, public domain). See WP:FU, in particular Counterexample #8. The usual place for discussing problems with an image is not the talk page of the article but the talk page of the image itself (Image talk:Naokotn.jpg). —Angr 06:58, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
That was not done, it was removed without notification. --Hitsuji Kinno 00:47, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Bot

Why the hell is the bot adding this: (cur) (last) 02:55, November 19, 2006 Thijs!bot (Talk | contribs) m (robot Adding: th:นาโอโกะ ทาเคอุจิ) to categories? It's not that language's page.. and what the hell is a bot doing on English space. --;; reversions. I'm reverting back to Malkiann. Unless someone uses the talk b=page, I'm reverting. --Hitsuji Kinno 03:26, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

Aren't those ordinary inter-wiki links? --Masamage 07:31, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
Yeah, the link takes you to that language's page on Naoko. -SaturnYoshi THE VOICES 02:10, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Awards

About the "2nd Nakayoshi Comic Prize for Newcomers" for “Yume ja Nai no ne”: Does anybody have a _trustworthy_ source for that? I'd rather suspect, this is a translation error or something like that.. I only found the "2nd New-Mangaka-Award" for "Love Call" (2nd doesn't mean second place but the second time this prize was awarded) See here (I translated it with Google-Translate): Nakayoshi New Mangaka Prize in Japanese Wikipedia -- Merkur-kun 23:28, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

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