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[edit] DZK / Richard James Burgess

Just go ahead and remove these sites, I seem to be far too inept for this librarian shit. Keep up the good work, Nagle. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by DZK (talk • contribs).

[edit] Israeli Apartheid arbitration

The move/revert war issue for Israeli Apartheid has been referred to arbitration. See Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration#Move and revert warring at Israeli Apartheid --John Nagle 00:35, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

I agree with the move to arbitration, but please remove the term "wheel war" - moving and reverting moves isn't an administrative action, it's something any user can do. -- ChrisO 00:43, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
One of the messages indicated that moving had been blocked at one point, which is an admin action. Did that happen? --John Nagle 00:46, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
It was wheel war, there were moves and deletions that can only be done by admins. -- Kim van der Linde at venus 00:53, 5 July 2006 (UTC)


Not sure about the moves and deletions point - I was under the impression that any user could do that? But you're certainly right about the move protection; Humus sapiens (I think) un-move-protected the article so that he could move it to Allegations of Israeli apartheid for the fourth time. I've documented the timeline with diffs at WP:RFAR#Statement by ChrisO. Please let me know if I've left any significant points out of the timeline. -- ChrisO 02:56, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
Please put your comments in the appropriate place on the arbitration page, not here; the arbitrators won't read this. Thanks. --John Nagle 03:41, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
As per Homeontherange's precedent, I edited my name on the list to point out that I was not involved in the move/revert war. I hope this is acceptable. Bibigon 06:46, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] ArbComm

Hi, I think it best if I stay out of the ArbComm case, I don't really have time to deal with it right now and I wasn't involved in the actual revert war. I think if I were to get involved I'd just end up being a magnet for personal attacks that would just distract from the real issues. Homey 06:45, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

That's really up to ArbComm now. Let's just see what happens. --John Nagle 06:47, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] RfM

A request for mediation has been filed with the Mediation Committee that lists you as a party. The Mediation Committee requires that all parties listed in a mediation must be notified of the mediation. Please review the request at [[Wikipedia:Requests for mediation/Apartheid (disambiguation)]], and indicate whether you agree or refuse to mediate. If you are unfamiliar with mediation, please refer to Wikipedia:Mediation. There are only seven days for everyone to agree, so please check as soon as possible.SlimVirgin (talk) 01:08, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Apartheid RfM

Nagle, Fred Bauder indicated that he supported the idea of mediation, so my guess is the committee may want to wait to see whether that can go ahead, rather than the other way round. Normally, we're supposed to try mediation before asking for arbitration, if at all possible. I was about to file an RfM anyway, so I hope you'll reconsider whether you want to be part of it. Cheers, SlimVirgin (talk) 02:49, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] RfAr

John, I saw your note about Zeq. I think you may have misunderstood the nature of an RfAr. Anyone who was involved may be added as a party by anyone, regardless of who has filed the request. The ArbCom may also add anyone at any time, even if they have not been named as a party. The situation is fluid for good reason, because ultimately the point of arbitration is to get issues sorted out, not to wikilawyer. So Zeq is allowed to add himself, and to add others too, if he believes they contributed to the situation. Only the Committee can decide what evidence to include in their assessment. SlimVirgin (talk) 06:01, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

Zeq never actually added himself as a party; he just made comments. My point was that I'm not claiming that Zeq did anything wrong; he's banned from editing the article, and he didn't. --John Nagle 06:37, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Israeli

Hello,

An Arbitration case involving you has been opened: Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Israeli. Please add evidence to the evidence sub-page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Israeli/Evidence. You may also contribute to the case on the workshop sub-page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Israeli/Workshop.

On behalf of the Arbitration Committee, --Tony Sidaway 13:32, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] AMC Collectibles

Why is it neccesary to remove an article that largely mirrors a feature of collectible car magazines, a section that discusses what models and toys have been made of a car? On what basis does this article deserve deletion? Who has it offended? Why is the information contained, namely fairly specific and cited information deemed of no consequence? Is this not merely an act of malicious hostility against an editor?? --matador300 07:02, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hubbert Peak Theory

You've been doing a nice job editing the Hubbert Peak Theory article. The way you reorganized some of the sections a couple of weeks ago was well done. Jkintree 20:01, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. --John Nagle 04:44, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Similar backgrounds

I've been editing the Allegations of Israeli apartheid article as well as a bunch of others you've edited. I just realized that we have similar backgrounds in computer graphics/animation -- strange. Checked out Animats website, technology and patents. My list of recent publications (including a 2006 ACM TOG paper and two patents) is here [1]. I was in negotiations a few years ago with Softimage with regards them licensing some of my software for inclusion too. I also wrote a package called Deadline which sold fairly well [2]. I did some work for DARPA back in Uni too. Feel free to give me an email and we could grab a beer at SIGGRAPH 2006 in Boston if your going. --Ben Houston 04:24, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Apartheid Arbcom case

Hi John. I notice that you've suggested that Humus Sapiens might have abused admin authority based on the fact that he "deleted to make way for move", but you seemed to have missed the fact that ChrisO "deleted to make way for move" 3 times. Was that just an oversight? Also, you say at least 3 parties to the arbitration have admin authority, but in fact 6 parties to the arbitration have admin authority. Was that another oversight? Also, you say " a race condition on page protection between Jayjg, Humus Sapiens and ChrisO" occurred, but it appears that only ChrisO was attempting to protect pages, not Humus Sapiens or Jayjg. Am I missing something? --User:MPerel 19:24, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

As discussed elsewhere, the moves to "Allegations of" were out of policy, so those are the ones of interest. As for who's an admin, I originally put in "at least 3 have admin authority" back when there were fewer participants in the arbitration. I didn't realize we were up to six now. I've fixed the race condition statement. Thanks. --John Nagle 19:47, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
There have always been the same number of participants in the arbitration with the same six admins. And I thought the issue was "wheel warring" not "moves out of policy"? --User:MPerel 19:56, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
Check back in the request for arbitration, where there was a big argument over who was a participant. Two people wanted out, and two people wanted in. --John Nagle 20:06, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
Your comment on the evidence page was made after the case was accepted and all the parties were notified. You may want to fix your incorrect statement about there being only 3 admins on the evidence page. --MPerel ( talk | contrib) 20:54, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Sms.ac

I'm curious as to what your opinion is of the recent Jimbo-intervention at this article? Themindset 04:16, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

  • Overreaction, I think. Sms.ac has sent out similar threatening letters in the past, and they haven't actually sued anybody yet. --John Nagle 04:41, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

I beg to differ. It is absolutely not an overreaction to see an article with completely unsourced claims like that. QUALITY means something. --Jimbo Wales 02:57, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Full apology here

hopefully you see the before you even know what I am apologizing for

[edit] Seizuredog/SeductionWiki.css

Doh, forgot the User. Go ahead and speedy it. --SeizureDog 16:18, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] References

That's a particular hobby of mine. WHile I prefer in-line/Harvard style (see Actuary ) I still like cleaning up references. I'm about halfway through Circumcision, and that was an unholy mess. But it is a pain to open each reference, check that it is accurately reflected, drill down through the research to see if there is actually a better source, etc. So thanks for the note, it helps :) -- Avi 18:33, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Kiki Carter

This is an effort to create an historical article about the environmental activist Kiki Carter. I am adding sources as requested by the original notice, but the list is exhaustive. Please review the sources on the article page and advise. Eaglefeather11 20:46, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Bot substitution of templates

That is quite a question, and my answer is but a referal to WP:SUBST. Hopefully you'll find all of your answers there. :-) --ZsinjTalk 18:46, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Adding Meople.net to the Attention Economy Entry

I am trying to add the reference to the Meople site which you refer to as "email spam." I am trying to tie Meople to the attention conversation just as Root.net is. Please let me know the best way to do this. Thanks. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 66.108.106.207 (talk • contribs).

Actually, the general idea is that Wikipedia doesn't carry advertising. Also see WP:VAIN. Thanks. --John Nagle 02:18, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] District of Columbia Civil Contempt Imprisonment Limitation Act

Copied from FloNight talk

What's going on with District of Columbia Civil Contempt Imprisonment Limitation Act? Your last edit changed a valid link to one with a 404 error. Please recheck your last edit. Thanks. --John Nagle 03:00, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

Hello John Nagle ; - ) In reply to your question, I was reverting the edits of a banned user AMorrow. Feel free to improve the article as needed. You need to make the changes in your own name making sure that you do not violate copyright laws. If you have further questions, leave them on the talk page of the article or my talk page. regards, FloNight talk 17:38, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

Was that from a bot? --John Nagle 17:49, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
No, why? --FloNight talk 19:24, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Cheggit

hi, cheggit is fully merged, not merely redirected, to empornium, so it is appropriate. the other one i leave as is. Zzzzz 09:59, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Moller

I was aware of his advancing dates as you noted on my user page. The difference would be that if he doesn't do it this time, he's going to have to hand back at least $250,000 in deposit money in early 2009 or face fraud accusations. According to the recent WSJ article he links to on his site, he's got a hundred deposits of $25k. Offering to hand a significant chunk of change back if he doesn't hit his deadlines is something new in the long history of Moller's Skycar. TMLutas 21:55, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

He already missed the 2005 deadline. I wonder if he refunded the money. --John Nagle 22:01, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Shubnikov

The "citation needed" was outside the parentheses, i.e., it looked to me as applied to the whole phrase about repressions of scientists. Anyway, right now I updated Lev Shubnikov and working on details of his fabricated affair that concerned other Ukrainian scientists, UPTI Affair. `'mikka (t) 06:20, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thoughts on Amnesty or Refocusing of the IA RfA

I just posted this [3] at the IA RfA -- its in a section on just defaulting to a general amnesty for all participants since the current RfA has clearly gone off the rails. I am not sure if you agree with it or not but I would welcome your thoughts since you initiated the RfA and not myself. --Ben Houston 03:18, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

I've posted a reply. Thanks. --John Nagle 03:46, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Image tagging for Image:Mediawatchlogo.gif

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[edit] Thanks for your work on Al-Manar

Thanks for the work and the clean up, especially finding its new website, they keep getting taken down.Hypnosadist 21:22, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Dancing Light

I would advise you to drop your tone. You are not entitled to be rude nor demand as you do that I justify my actions. Nothing whatsoever was recreated. The redirect remains protected. The band will redirect to its notable member until and unless that article (Kiki Carter) is deleted. I have also userfied the text of the deleted article to the original creator per s/his request for use elsewhere. I hope and pray that my actions meet with your kind approval - [personal attack removed]. - CrazyRussian talk/email 00:44, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Inlining fair use images

Re:Talk:Buck_Rogers_(science_fiction)

Fair use images are to be used on article namespaces only. Please read WP:FU if you have any questions on usage of fair use images. Retropunk 18:28, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

Removing that is fine. It was just used there temporarily, until all the relevant articles were updated, which they have been. --John Nagle 18:32, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Miniclip

User has been blocked for 5RR --mboverload@ 22:19, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

OK. Thanks. That was wierd. --John Nagle 22:28, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] John Nagle redirect

Dear sir, I'm working on the Articles requested for more than a year project, and the non-existent John Nagle article was one of the items on the list. As you note elsewhere, there is not really enough material on you on the internet to knock up a proper bio. I unlinked your name on the Nagle's Algorithm page, then redirected John Nagle to Nagel's Algorithm. No offence intended, I'm just cleaning up. Ordinary Person 15:10, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Possible error in escape sequence

Thanks! I think the problem is now fixed. -- Where 18:23, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] UNIQUE USERS PPV PURCHASES (NON-ADULT)

Nah. It was just a vandal. Or a nutter. Doesn't matter. As you say, it's just good that it is now gone :o) ➨ ЯEDVERS 22:39, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] WP:AfD/A bigger, better machine i will be

Done. - Best regards, Mailer Diablo 06:45, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Mediation... activated! :P

Hello! I've accepted your mediation request... sorry for the delay in accepting, we're unusally clogged with stuff at the moment. Check the case page for response. --The Prophet Wizard of the Crayon Cake 16:45, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Mediation Cabal/Cases/2006-08-03 Mosaic: World News from the Middle East

[edit] Rewrite of Physics

Thanks for the pointer I think I've created the page under my talk namespace as you've suggested. Now if you can delete the original page, I'd appreaciate it. Also feel free to comment on the changes. Good luck in DGCIII. Tmcsheery 17:35, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

      • Thought the name sounded Familiar. You need to come by and look at the toys we have. Tmcsheery 17:44, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
I'm not an admin, so I can't delete it. Put {{db | Moved to talk space, owner requests deletion}} on the page you want deleted, and someone will do it. --John Nagle 18:12, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Moshe Constantine Hassan Al-Silverburg

Hi. I noticed Moshe Constantine Hassan Al-Silverburg keeps removing sourced material that you've added. Whenever I've done this on the Israel Shahak page he's done a revert and stated "Please do not remove sourced passages unles you have another reliable source that disputes it." Perhaps you should suggest the same to him? Conch Shell 14:00, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Chris McGreal

Your edit summary referred to "POV vandalism"; this must have been an error, otherwise it would be a shocking breach of WP:CIVIL and WP:NPA. I'm assuming you reverted the wrong article or something; if you have any actual concerns, the article Talk: page awaits. Jayjg (talk) 19:10, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Category for pro-Israel organizations

You wrote (→See also - rm what appears to be a random grouping of other media watchdog organizations. This is what categories are for.). I suspect that Category:Pro-Israel organizations would be rather controversial. Is that what you are proposing? We have Category:Non-governmental organizations involved in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, which could be subdivided into the two (or more) sides. But we'd just get revert wars. --John Nagle 22:47, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

The organizations listed were not (or at least not mostly) pro-Israel in any sense. That is why I found this content useless and removed it. It was an apparently random listing of a few miscellaneous media watchdog groups of various politics. - Jmabel | Talk 23:04, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] New article on a complex subject

A new article on a complex subject is looking for more high quality contributors:

Israel lobby in the United States

--Ben Houston 00:49, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

I've been mostly doing consumerism this week, taking a break from Israel/Arab issues. --John Nagle 16:09, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Israeli apartheid

This case has closed and the final decision has been published at the link above.

To summarize: Discussion of global issues which concern use of "apartheid" and all polls shall be at Wikipedia:Central discussions/Apartheid with subsidiary dialog on the talk page of affected articles. Based on the difficult and controversial nature of this matter, with the exception of Zeq (talk • contribs), who remains banned from editing the article, the principal participants in this dispute shall be granted an amnesty for past actions, but are strongly encouraged to engage in negotiations. All involved administrators are admonished not use their administrative tools without prior discussion and consensus.

- Mgm|(talk) 20:43, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] List of Birketts

Hi, I see you PRODded this page - did you notice that it had been deleted previously? I'd be inclined to speedy it but don't know if that's possible, as it isn't a "substantially identical copy", as per criterion 4, of the deleted article (which was actually a list). Also, since it was deleted (on grounds of notability) a user has asserted its notability on the talk page. Do you know what the best course of action is? --Blisco 20:53, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. Changed "prod" to "speedy". One could argue over whether the article should be deleted as a duplicate or as an empty article, but why bother? --John Nagle 23:14, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Bot?

I'm not a bot; I'm doing this by hand. There are multiple things that use the "VA-X" naming, and I feel it is better to make the disambiguation pages now than wait until both articles are written and fix all the links then. --NE2 19:57, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Mirabilis (band) and the speedy removal

The actual wording of Wikipedia:Notability (music) says first "A musician or ensemble (note that this includes a band, singer, rapper, orchestra, hip hop crew, DJ, musical theatre group, etc.) is notable if it meets any one of the following criteria:" and the as one of the criteria says "Contains at least one member who was once a part of or later joined a band that is otherwise notable; note that it is often most appropriate to use redirects in place of articles on side projects, early bands and such." Both members were in other groups who have articles. So they didn't qualify as a speedy. Of course they may still be non-notable and get deleted. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 05:46, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Political notability of Robert Parkyn

The guy was a member of the Legislative Assembly of Alberta and an Alderman for 17 years, he is plenty notable. --Cloveious 14:56, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks, John.

Lots of strange little edits going down tonight, no? Must be another full moon since my talk page is getting hammered. Thanks for the info.  :) - Lucky 6.9 02:49, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thoughts?

Wikipedia:Templates_for_deletion/Log/2006_October_11#Template:Palestine. You'll notice it is the same block of voters who all come in and voted oppose to the renaming here: Talk:Allegations_of_Israeli_apartheid#Requested_move.2C_Retitle_Article_ASAP. It's coordinated block voting and I do not know how to respond to it appropriately. Maybe I should create a mailing list of people who I think will vote with me and call them up when I want to get rid of something I don't like. --Ben 03:42, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] 3RR

John, please don't make fake 3RR reports. You've reverted three times as has Jay, so you're both in the same boat. SlimVirgin (talk) 17:35, 17 October 2006 (UTC)


John, please do not make spurious 3RR reports in an attempt to harass other editors. Also, please do not use false claims about edits or the Arbitration Committee in an attempt to intimidate other editors over simple content disputes. And finally please stop inserting clearly irrelevant material into articles. Jayjg (talk) 17:36, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

That's what dispute resolution is for. Some neutral party is going to have to sort this out. --John Nagle 17:40, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] CAMERA's Founding and Charles Jacobs

CAMERA has posted a brief history, which describes Charles Jacobs as deputy director of the Boston Chapter, not its founder. It has also provided images of documents. Here's the link:

[edit] CAMERA's Founding and Charles Jacobs

CAMERA has posted a brief history, which describes Charles Jacobs as deputy director of the Boston Chapter, not its founder. It has also provided images of documents. Here's the link:

http://camera.org/index.asp?x_context=48

Update, sorry for the double posting and late signature: Nehemiah123 02:26, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Your comments

I don't appreciate your comments about me possibly sneaking in changes to the content policies. I helped to write those policies, and have been continually involved in maintaining them. I'm now helping to streamline them, and have put up a proposal to merge them, which is being worked on by several editors. I try to prevent sneaky changes to the content policies, not make them. Your presumption of bad faith is disappointing, to put it mildly. SlimVirgin (talk) 20:31, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

That's a consequence of making many changes without discussing them first on the talk page. It may be harmless, but it's the sort of thing which bears watching. Hence the comment. It's not a big deal. --John Nagle 22:04, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Your comments II

On my talk page, you asked why I was creating dying mall articles, well... here's your answer. I was just trying to make articles from the over abundance of red links on List of defunct shopping malls. P.Shack 20:43, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Image:AntiWarRallyFeb162003.jpg and New antisemitism

Greetings Nagel, I would recommend that you just add the {{ifd}} tag to that image. The talk page reasoning is extremely valid and additionally the fact that the usage of the image is so against Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons policy that Wikipedia can't even credit the artist on the image page (ie: The copyright holder's name is available on request.) combined with the fact that the creative commons license is only for the photograph and not the actual art itself (a photograph of an artist's work does not convey the artist's image rights to the photographer). (→Netscott) 21:53, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

The more you keep trying, the more you expose your POV. ←Humus sapiens ну? 03:19, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] List of Messianic Jewish leaders

I understand and AGF, they intentionally use a similar name to confuse people. ←Humus sapiens ну? 03:19, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Good books

Getting to YES and Getting past No. Highly recommended. --Deodar 01:13, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Cleanup?

I think it's a little harsh to drop a "cleanup" tag on The Silver Branch (Sutcliff novel) with a note "needs a bookbox and ISBN". Request for expansion, perhaps, but cleanup? What is a bookbox, how am I to find out, and why an ISBN? They're tied to individual editions of books, no, so will the ISBN for a 1970/80s edition of a 1950s novel (and I have some of this vintage) be any use? Telsa (talk) 12:15, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia knows quite a bit about ISBN numbers. Take a look at the article, which now has a book infobox. The ISBN number leads you to library catalogs and booksellers. Click on it and see what happens. --John Nagle 17:38, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The human herding question...

Hi Nagle, you weighed in with helpful input on the Talk:Herd behavior page about a potential MERGE a while back. It appears that a wiki-consensus has been reached on the merge. There is now a question as to the best name for the new page. I would very much like to have a decently wide consensus before we merge the two (still muddled) articles, so if you would be willing to weigh in, that would really help. (as would input from any other interested wikipedians) N2e 16:36, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Talk:Allegations of Israeli apartheid

Regarding your comment that I "continually object to anti-Israel sources" and that I revert if anyone puts them in, here are diffs showing I added material from Ali Abunimah, an American-Palestinian writer; from Jamal Zahalka; an Israeli-Arab member of the Knesset; and from Azmi Bishara; another Israeli-Arab member of the Knesset. All three believe that the term "Israeli apartheid" is accurate.

Have you ever added pro-Israel material to this or any other article?

Please correct what you wrote. SlimVirgin (talk) 22:49, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

I get along well with Nagle and not with SlimVirgin, but even I have to admit that SlimVirgin has a long history of good service to Wikipedia. Nagle, I think you should give SlimVirgin the benefit of the doubt here. --Ideogram 05:57, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
I'm being too harsh, perhaps. SlimVirgin isn't that bad. But there is an ongoing ownership issue with some articles, particularly that one. --John Nagle 06:12, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
Please be patient. She can be abrasive but she means well. --Ideogram 07:36, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Gimble System

Just a quick note on this one. A gimble system is a real and probably notable enough camera term. But in this case, the article is likely a copyvio: [4]. I'm not entirely clear on whether this would qualify as db-copyvio, but if so, it may be worth retagging. ScottW 03:24, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

Actually, it's Gimbal, which we already have. --John Nagle 04:24, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
Ah, of course. I was kind of surprised that this was the first time someone had made an entry. Thanks for pointing that out. ScottW 11:54, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
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