Talk:Mysterio

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[edit] RPG stats

I removed the following from the article because I really don't think RPG stats belong in Wikipedia. Since large numbers of these "vital stats" sections have been added to various articles, I'm using Talk:Strength level (comics) to discuss this issue in general. Bryan 07:52, 28 Jan 2004 (UTC)

• Name: Quentin Beck
• Height: 5' 11"
• Weight: 175 lbs.
• Eyes: Blue
• Hair: Black
  • Intelligence Level: High Average
  • Strength Level: Normal
  • Endurance Level: Normal
  • Speed Level: Normal
  • Agility Level: Normal
  • Stamina Level: Normal
  • Reflexes Level: Normal
• Special Skills and Abilities: Expert designer of special effects devices and stage illusions, master hypnotist and prestidigitator, amateur chemist and roboticist. Extensive knowledge of hand-to-hand combat techniques learned as a stuntman.
• Personal Weaponry: One-way plexiglass helmet with holographic projector; gloves and boots armed with nozzles which emit hallucinogenic gas.

You should not delete hight, weight, hair color, eye color, or other facts that are about the character and have nothing to do with an RPG. In most articles about characters from any series, they have basic physical looks listed under their name.

The reason they're not included is that they're generally not mentioned in the stories themselves. They're usually made up (out of nowhere) by writers of handbooks like OHOTMU, not the writers of the stories... and they have little or no impact on the stories. Not only that but there are often mistakes -- like female characters' weights are sometimes so low in relation to their heights that they'd have to be practically skeletal. Besides, weight isn't a constant--it changes day to day. And there are some things not included-- like "Hair color" is in, but "skin color" isn't? What if you have a blue-skinned character? Do you mention that, and then get into sticky issues over racism? What about first language? Place of birth? Blood type? Favourite food? There are tons of details that could be included, but they just aren't all that important.

Since these things don't really impact the stories, they're trivia at best. And since they're taken directly from handbooks often without citation, they're copyright violations at worst. A good picture of the character and maybe a mugshot for signifigant characters will tell you more, without these problems. -- HKMARKS 20:08, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Bruce Campbell

Seriously will however it is stop deleting my contribution, i've now found a reliable source! Do I deleted ur information - NO! Its rude and inconsiderate.

Thanks for adding the source -- that's all we needed. I didn't doubt it (I've been hearing the same rumour for years) but just because people are speculating about it doesn't mean it's true, so we needed some evidence. - HKMARKS 03:05, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

I didn't realise that i need sources. sorry.

Blogs are not reliable sources. Try again. CovenantD 03:58, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

That statement came from a reliable source actually. Bruce Campbell has stated that he will be annoying Spiderman in the new film and Mysterio tends to annoy Spiderman alot in the comics. Its worth putting it down on this article for now. Look at the pages for the Vulture and Electro, both there pages state they are candidates for the fourth villain. Mysterio has a stronger case than them. Now I suggest you put that information back up.

IMDB has him listed for the film, as Quentin Beck but only rumored, not confirmed. I suggest waiting a while... no doubt a more reliable source will appear in the next few months. The movie's still almost a year away. In the mean time, you can find the statement from Campbell about "annoying" Spider-Man, and add it to Bruce Campbell. Until there's evidence that he's actually playing Beck and not just having another cameo, it doesn't belong here. - HKMARKS 04:26, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

And thanks for pointing me to the Vulture and Electro articles. I'll go take care look them over for uncited rumors next. CovenantD 04:57, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

You are such a rude and cocky bastard aren't you.

[edit] Quentin Beck Resurrected?

Yes, we now know how Beck came back form the dead. Boo-Yah, mystery solved, at leats for anyone who read X-Statix Presents: Dead Girl. Please deign not to remove the info about his ressurection, as Marvel Comics themselves confirmed it. SaliereTheFish 10:16, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

First off, Marvel.com didn't say it...someone editing Marvel's version of Wikipedia did. Fans edit the articles there. The article in quesion states Even after death Beck’s soul didn’t get to rest. His soul was sent to hell for his evil doings and resided there till Pitiful One gave him change to go back, but he was later sent back by Dead Girl and Doctor Strange.

At the climax, he was sent back to Hell. Nor does Marvel say that it was in anyway connected to Peter David's run. If you want, you can ask him on his website, but saying that the two incidents are related is speculation.--CyberGhostface 18:20, 15 November 2006 (UTC)