User talk:Myrtone86

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Ðus, ik säge:
  • If þv lieust a Message neiðer signatur, nor Häde kontainen, I will ðï Post edit
  • If ik edit ðï vser_talk Päcga, shall I it for a Response mönitor.
  • Þe olde Poste of this Päcga may gegarchïvd be
  • Editör of Messages wiþ Kaddysshe become smitten to be

Personal attacks are not welcome on this page and further replies to emails on my talkpage will be deleted and replace with replies via email

Sincerely,
Myrtone@Myrtone86.com.au


Welcome!

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[edit] George Carlin

Quit adding commented garbage to this article. You should know better than to litter Wikipedia with such things. Warrens 02:16, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Articulated trams

Hello, and thanks for your message on my talk page. I've taken a look at Articulated tram and have started translating bits of the German-language article, de:Straßenbahn-Gelenkwagen. Also, I'd like to ask you to stop creating articles like GT4 (TRAM) that have been automatically translated by a computer from German. The quality of these Babelfish translations is very poor, and the amount of copyediting required is virtually the same as with writing a completely new article. It is better to have a stub with two or three meaningful sentences than pages of random gibberish. Thankyou. --Doco 15:05, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Template:User AU res

Hello there. I am the one who changed the userbox picture. I did so because that Userbox is for people who live in Australia who may or may not be Australians. That flag represents Australians, wherever they may be, not the continent. There is another userbox for Australians, viz. Template:User_Australian. I am cross-posting this on the talkpage of the Australian resident userbox - please give your counterargument there. Mgekelly - Talk 06:40, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

I haven't heard back on this, so I'm doing a revert. Please do not interpret this as unwillingness on my part to engage in discussion on this issue! Mgekelly - Talk 09:12, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

Myrtone, I feel as if you think this issue is above discussion. I also feel that this discussion on it should be taking place on the template talk page since it affects everyone who uses it and is not simply an issue between the two of us. Since you are clearly getting quite worked up about this, I'll just change the template on my own userpage, and note your intransigence on the article talk page.Mgekelly - Talk 12:59, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

Just because you created a template Myrtone, doesn't mean you own it. mgekelly 13:36, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] TW 6000

I would again ask you to stop adding untranslated or badly translated material to the English-language Wikipedia, such as you did with TW 6000 recently. As you may know, Wikipedia:Pages needing translation into English, the article that is referred from the {{notenglish}} template, explicitly states:

If the article is a mere copy of (all or part of) an article in a foreign-language Wikipedia, it can just get added to Wikipedia:Candidates for speedy deletion: we want to discourage people who cut articles from one Wikipedia and paste to another without translating. If the intent is to ask for a translation, the correct place to do that is Wikipedia:Translation into English.

Putting up machine translations or lots of German text in railway-related articles is not a good practice, as there are very little Wikipedia editors with dual fluency that can work on this specific field. It is better to have a small stub that grows into an article over time, than to mindlessly copy content and clutter pages. Therefore, please stop this practice now. Thankyou. --Doco 11:26, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

As mentioned below, another good solution is to create a subpage of your user page where you can work on a translation. Once the translation is finished, it can be moved (or cut and pasted) to article space. Angr (talk • contribs) 13:20, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] {{User deamocarcy (passive:Yes)}}

Did you intentionally create {{User deamocarcy (passive:Yes)}} with that spelling? If so, why if I may ask? --Durin 19:47, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] {{db}} tags on templates

Please be sure that you are only tagging templates for speedy deletion which fall under our WP:CSD criterion T1 for being divisive or inflammatory. Some of them, like {{User Aspie}}, are clearly not that. If you feel something should be deleted for other reasons, you might go check out Templates for Deletion. (ESkog)(Talk) 11:43, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

Speedy deletion works that way: if someone disagrees with it, you either leave it alone or list it on appropriate forum, such as Wikipedia:Templates for deletion in this case. If people disagree with speedy deletion, then it's not a speedy deletion candidate.  Grue  11:45, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

I reverted your CSD requests mostly because that action placed dozens and dozens of user pages to CAT:CSD. If you want them deleted, take it (again) to WP:TFD. I don't think you can find an admin to speedy delete a bunch of templates just because you don't like them. jni 11:46, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Stadler GTW

Hi, if you like, I can restore your draft translation at a user subpage (e.g. User:Myrtone (the strict Australian wikipedian)/Stadler GTW), where you can work on it in peace. Once you've finished the translation, then put it in article space. Angr (talk • contribs) 13:18, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Your "translations"

I am getting a bit upset at your behaviour, especially your edits with User:Doco/sandbox/DB Class 628. It is _not_ helpful to translate single words like prepositions or articles and leave the rest unattended, as this practice messes up the sentences and makes the whole thing harder to read for native speakers who might want to translate the sections in chunks at a time. If you cannot translate whole sentences from German, I kindly request you not to do translations then and to stay clear of the needy articles. Your changes have been reverted. Thankyou. --Doco 08:27, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Moving pages

Hi, part of moving pages is fixing double redirects. Please go here and make sure all redirects point to the new title. Thanks! Pais 12:59, 29 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Archive deletion

I deleted your two archives as you requested. If you need any more help, let me know. Thanks!  RasputinAXP  c 17:30, 29 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] American, British, etc.

Sorry Myrtone, but I ultimately had to revert all your moves---this is too tricky a point, we should at least seek consensus. There's a whole category named "American and British English differences," and your proposed titles were a tad cumbersome (why not English differences around the world, or something like that?) I do understand the fact that Australians, Canadians, etc. might feel left out. But the problem is, American vs. British is an encyclopedic topic we can't ignore or overlook; articles about American vs. British English are not even required to cover even Australian, New Zealand, South African, Indian, or Kiribati usage---they are about "American vs. British." American and British English do deserve priority and should be prioritized, as per history, literature, references, etc. All other varieties of English do have their own pages where they are duly described. Most of all, the phrase Commonwealth English doesn't really mean a thing in this respect, as many of us have realized. We don't even have enough literature to give in-depth, thorough coverage of all the dialects of the English Language; the List of words having different meanings in British and American English would become an unsanitary mess if we were to factor in all possible Englishes---we better just shut it down forever. But I did think about adjusting the pages that deal with vocabulary---to accommodate just Canadian and Australian usage, as I posted elsewhere. But this would require great exertion indeed, and I had planned on this as a long-term project. For starters, we should have strong foundations; then, we can think about it. I apologize for reverting your changes, but I felt they were inappropriate, at least for the time being. I hope you understand, I hope you're not mad at me. If you want to discuss, just drop me a line, I'm always here for you and ready to listen to your suggestions. Best, JackLumber 20:57, 29 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Templates for deletion

Please do not add items for deletion into past discussion pages.

Please do not add items to the holding cell that have not been through the process.

Please do not add items to the templates for deletion page, on multiple occasions.

Please stop. If you continue to vandalize pages, you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia.

--William Allen Simpson 17:35, 30 April 2006 (UTC)
Then where should I add these templates if I want them deleted?Myrtone (the strict Australian wikipedian):-(

Please read:

--William Allen Simpson 02:10, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

I'd like to point out that Myrtone has again added a template to the wrong date in TFD even after these warnings, and moreover nominated it seemingly for explicitly ideological reasons. Mgekelly - Talk 07:49, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

In your response to this comment on my talkpage, you assert that you had no way of knowing under which date to put the TFD. I find the idea that you have no way of knowing today's date implausible. Mgekelly - Talk 08:54, 1 May 2006 (UTC)
This is your last warning. The next time you vandalize a page, you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia. Mgekelly - Talk 08:07, 1 May 2006 (UTC)
The reason I have just added this, Myrtone, is that I only just realised that frivolous deletion nominations count as vandalism in Wikipedia policy. Mgekelly - Talk 08:24, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Drug free!

Im just a bit shocked at seeing that the template "not drug free" is being considered for deletion just because it is considered by you as 'socially innapropriate'. To me, recreational drug use is personal choice that shouldnt pose a problem for society at all in the first place. And my right to say that I use drugs recreationally should be upheld, since I do not put it on my page to brag about it, but rather as an indication and a clue as to what I like or who I am. Isnt that what these templates were made for? Of course some people aren't going to like reading these templates that describe you, as some people dont like traits of personality in others; but that doesnt mean we should be blanked of a possibility to describe one of my favourite hobbies. --DragonFly31 07:53, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Drug free!

The fact is, I AM transgressing international drug laws by consuming drugs recreationally. May I remind you kindly though, that Wikipedia is a place where these laws do not apply (Wikipedia is not a country, simply an encyclopedia). Wikipedia never supports international laws, just its own that are based on neutral points of views that try to comply with the many cultural and social points of view in the world. This is the greatest strength of Wikipedia; a place where people try and agree on unbiased articles and views. Stopping us from exhibiting this point of view would contradict directly with these principles. Following your point of view, shoudnt you go further with your idea and try to put in the 'recreational drugs use' article that it is morally wrong to use drugs? Such an edit would be immediatly deleted. As I said, it is just a point of view and a 'hobby' for me to use drugs recreationally. Nothing more, nothing less. DragonFly31 Added this unsigned comment. Mistakes happen.

You critize me by saying my beliefs are 'based on the loose morals inherent in US liberterianism and US style liberterianism'. How can that be since 1) I am a French citizen 2) My morals are very well set and I stick by them; they are simply more open minded and less 'politically correct' than yours, that I will agree. Political correctness should stay in the realm of politics and has no reason to exist in an encyclopedia; the world, the real world, the world Wikipedia seeks to describe and learn about is not politically correct. I do not believe, and this is central to our argument,that it is 'morally wrong to display illegal activity' as you say. Because illegal activity happens, we cannot ignore it or turn a blind eye, wishing it to go away. Just because something is illegal, does NOT mean it is morally wrong! Although God is the law, civil law is not represented by God. I believe more wikipedians adhere to my view than your very short sighted one. Good luck!--DragonFly31 16:25, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Time's article on transportation safety

Hi, I enjoyed reading that article you have on your userpage. You may want to consider, however, Wikipedia's policy on Copyrighted material. There is more latitude on user pages, but it is frowned upon to have cut and pasted materials. Thanks!--Kungfu Adam (talk) 21:32, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] You're welcome?

I don't know why you're thanking me, but you're welcome nonetheless. – Someguy0830 (Talk | contribs) 00:07, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Your message to Timothy

If you don't want to be blocked, please refrain from making posts such as this one. Thanks. AnnH ♫ 16:46, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] sco:Tramcar

Sorry, I can't help with this. There is no interwiki link to sco: from WP:RA, so it might be there isn't one? My best suggestion is to ask someone in category:user sco as they'll probably have a better idea where to look than I do. Sorry. Thryduulf 14:41, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Welcome message

I don't think it will go down too well fo' shizzle. Xtra 12:17, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Trams of Bordeaux

I can try to help, but my French isn't all that great - you might want to enlist somebody from Bordeaux... A problem with the article is that it isn't all that great, and should be restructured - possibly by moving the "current" section to the beginning, and turn the rest into a rudimentary "History" section. Unfortunately the article doesn't say anything about where the 38 lines in 1946 came from etc. Actually, you should probably try to find an additional source for the article somewhere. I have translated (and reworded) a bit of the first and last paragraph, I hope that helps. Happy editing, Kusma (討論) 13:51, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Template:User AU res

It is indifferent. The flag is being used in the template mentioned in Template:User AU res, so using a different picture differentiates the two. Just because other templates use a similar fallacy doesn't mean this one should. – Someguy0830 (Talk | contribs) 00:39, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

A fallcy is something that is wrong. The other templates shouldn't be using flags for residency, either. Just because they haven't been fixed doesn't mean this one should be wrong. I'm not the only one who agrees with this assessment. – Someguy0830 (Talk | contribs) 00:46, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

How am I ignoring you? I gave two specific reasons. One, non-fair use images cannot be used in userboxes. Two, use the current flag. Why? Because that is the current, accepted flag for the nation as a whole. In this instance, creating a template specifically stating that said user is specifically aboriginal would be appropriate, but using that flag would not be. It would have to be generic. – Someguy0830 (Talk | contribs) 03:45, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

It was a spelling mistake. Anyway, you have the two reasons. The image is fair use and not every Australian is aboriginal. Template:User Australian is generalized for every citizen. – Someguy0830 (Talk | contribs) 04:18, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

Template:User AU res is for those living in Australia. Native or not, anyone living there is still living there. The second template you made reads exactly the same, makes no distinction, and only uses a different image. It's an unnecessary fork because of these reasons. – Someguy0830 (Talk | contribs) 08:21, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

Fine lines are irrelivant in most cases, and lead to unnecessary forking. Say a person has lived in Australia for a year. Does the fact that they've only lived there a short time mean there are living there any less than someone who has been living there for 10 years? Or 20 years? Or was born there? Does a period of time somehow preclude them from claiming that they've living in Australia? No. They are all still living there. There is absolutely no need to differentiate between differing periods of time between individual users. Like I stated earlier, the only reasonable fork template would be one claiming you are aboriginal. – Someguy0830 (Talk | contribs) 08:33, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
Also, you seem to mistake the definition of fallacy. Fallcy is something that is wrong. Neither template is stating anything wrong in the situations you describe. You are living in Australia, are you not? Just because your father was the only one born there does not mean this fact is any less valid, nor does it mean you are any less Australian than the guy who's family has been there for generations. – Someguy0830 (Talk | contribs) 08:37, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
The number of generations is irrelevant. Anyone who is a citizen of Australia is Australian. Anyone who currently resides in Australia is living in Australia. Anyone using these types of userboxes will fall into one, the other, or both. The only third option would be "of Australian descent," which would likely never be used. As for my background, since you asked, it's half American and half British. My family has resided in America for two generations. Regardless, were it one or five, we would still be Americans by virtue of the fact that we are citizens of this nation, and are residency here would not be contigent on whatever period of time we had been here. – Someguy0830 (Talk | contribs) 09:24, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
This has nothing to do with centrism, so don't try to make that an issue. You're simply arguing semantics. Template:User AU res applies to anyone living in Australia. This is regardless of how long they may have been doing so or how much of their family did. The same goes for Template:User Australian. Anyone who is a citizen of Australia is Australian, regardless of the factors mentioned above. I cannot make it any clearer than this. However, if you want an example:
This user lives in Australia.
This user lives in Australia.

 

These are the two versions of the template you made. Tell me this. How exactly am I supposed to tell if a user is not native. You make no distinction? These templates only differ by a picture. – Someguy0830 (Talk | contribs) 14:35, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

Stop trying to make this about whether or not I've been to Australia. It's not relevant and mildly annoying. I'm making a simple point here. You're pointlessly splitting hairs with these forks, which in no way differentiate between the two as I've illustrated above. – Someguy0830 (Talk | contribs) 07:05, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
This isn't an assumption of culture or anything like that. It's a simple matter of an appropriate image. Logic dictates that if you want to show that you live in a country, then showing a picture of the country is appropriate. It also dictates that identifying oneself as a citizen of the country would mean showing said country's flag would be appropriate. What part of this makes any assumption of a user's culture? – Someguy0830 (Talk | contribs) 07:23, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
Some degree of generalization is necessary. I happen to know that there are at least five different accepted versions of the Australian flag. Should we make a template saying the exact same thing some five-odd times over just to accomdate a different image? Of course not. They would be repetitive and largely unused. The Australian flag is an internationally recognized symbol of that nation, and international recognition is just as important as a user's point of view on what the flag should or should not look like. Officially speaking, the flag in use is the flag representing that nation. Any other flags would not be as helpful for this particular use. – Someguy0830 (Talk | contribs) 07:48, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
I just read the article about the flag. – Someguy0830 (Talk | contribs) 18:46, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Leipzig tram

I translated the rest of that stub, you should copyedit it. Happy editing, Kusma (討論) 15:20, 11 May 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Seatbelts on trams/trains

Hi - I'm not aware of any cases of seatbelts on trams or trains. --Sf 10:55, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Unfriendliness to IP users

Wikipedia currently allows users who do not have accounts to edit pages, you should take note of this and be friendlier to those who don't have accounts. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 67.182.140.115 (talk • contribs • WHOIS) .

[edit] Signature

When you sign your post, your initials appear in bold, how do you do this, do you just type it in manually or something?Myrtone

In the nickname section of my preferences I have [[User_talk:Cherry_blossom_tree|'''C'''herry '''b'''lossom '''t'''ree]] (with Raw signature ticked) which produces --Cherry blossom tree 16:41, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re: reversion

Myrtone, get real. Read your revision of Canadian English, and realize that no serious scholar in the world (including Australia) would write that way. JackLumber, 14:36, 19 May 2006 (UTC) Put it another way, Australian English doesn't count for much when talking about Canadian English.

Context. That's what it's all about. In that _context_, your references where out of line. --JackLumber, 14:40, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

Again, it's context what matters. If a page reads, "this thing is called X in Britain and Y in the U.S.," with no mention of other English-speaking countries, then it's really UK/US centric, and it's _desirable_ that the phrasing be changed to "this thing is called X in Britain and Australia and Y in the U.S. and Canada," or "X in Britain and many Commonwealth countries and Y in the U.S." etc. But Canadian English has little/nothing to do with English as spoken in countries other than Britain and the U.S.; the fact that English as spoken in certain esp. Commonwealth countries like Australia is close to English as spoken in Britain is pretty much irrelevant in that context. --JackLumber, 19:30, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Nominating for RfA

If you would like to nominate someone for adminship, please follow the directions outlined here and here. joturner 06:16, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re: British English...

No way. Ireland has nothing to do with the Commonwealth, and British English does, usually, include Irish English, and always includes Scottish English. Scottish English and Irish English influenced American English also. --JackLumber, 19:06, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

Reverted your last edit. Commonwealth spelling is an incorrect term, every way you slice it, especially the way you used it on that page. JackLumber, 12:31, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
Anyway, you should know Australian spelling is *not* British spelling and Australian English is *not* British English. For the time being however your remarks are little more than original research; the term British English has been in use for 150 years or so. The "raising" is not realized everywhere in the same way; Paul Simon's realization, for instance, is conspicuously different from that of, say, a Wisconsinite. --JackLumber, 14:31, 23 May 2006 (UTC) ipso facto = by that very fact.
Indeed. *Much* the same, not *exactly* the same. There are differences. Australian spelling cannot be regarded as "British spelling." JackLumber, 14:55, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
And FYI -ize was not an invention by Noah Webster. It was the original spelling, *subsequently* changed by the British. And -or spellings were somewhat popular in C19 Australia, didn't you know? Who are you to give me spelling lessons, given your somewhat faulty knowledge? JackLumber, 15:08, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
C19 = 19th century. According e.g. to Pam Peters, those spellings were found in newspapers and some legal codes, especially in Victoria and South Australia---not to mention the name of the Australian Labor Party. By then, the phrase "officially accepted" didn't mean a thing, and even now, I'm told, most publishing houses and newspapers print their own style guides for their writers and editors, although your federal government has its own Style Manual. And btw, Englander doesn't mean a thing also. People from England are collectively called the English; a person from _New England_ is a New Englander. --JackLumber, 20:11, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
I apologize if you took offense, but I didn't really mean to bully or harass you. You can't say that Australia uses British spelling, that you don't know what ipso facto means, that -ize spellings were invented by Webster, that an Englander is someone from England, etc., and then complain and talk behind my back because it seemed to me that your knowledge on this topic is not perfect---and I was outspoken and honest enough to tell you what I thought. Other people may just continue talking with you, faking it, and putting you on, but I don't like acting like that. If someone writes something incorrect on my talk page, I guess I have a right to strike it out. --JackLumber, 20:34, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
That basically works for me. The meat & potatoes is, English as spoken in Australia has developed its distinctive features and traits, w.r.t. vocabulary, word formation, and even spelling---maybe not so distinctive, but enough for Australian English to be considered a full-fledged dialect. And did you know that the word finalize, often thought of as an Americanism, originated in Australia? JackLumber, 12:50, 24 May 2006 (UTC) (OK, possibly with another spelling...)
Meat and potatoes is an idiom, it means "the basic thing." Again, you misunderstood; I said, that works for me. I allow that Australian spelling is much the same as British spelling, and I have no doubt about it. Yet it's not _identical_ (think for example of -ise and -ize. -ize is as rare as hen's teeth in Australia, but is endorsed by many sources in England; British Oxford dictionaries prioritize -ize, but the Australian Oxford Dictionary has -ise as the main form; program is more used in Australia than in Britain; etc.; see also Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style_(spelling)). I'm perfectly comfortable with your point, and with the fact that writer and rider are not homophonous in most Canadian speech; the case is closed as far as I'm concerned. Best, JackLumber, 13:35, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
I've left a reminder to not edit the comments of others and for civility to be kept in mind on the talk page of User:JackLumber. Please let me know if any further issues arise. -- Longhair 02:41, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Aboriginal vs Indigenous in Canadian English

Saw your edit; you're wrong, aside from the spelling mistake on "indigenous". While the Australian usage is well-known enough, in Canada there's a distinction between the two, and in the case of "aboriginal", there's a legal definition. To whit, that Inuit and Metis (halfbreeds, whether of historic Metis stock or other Indian-white/asian/whatever) are also "aboriginal" as well as "Indian" (for which in Canada the preferred poli-cor term is "First Nations" or First Nations person/people/man/woman". And the Metis are not indigenous, nor, if you listen to the First Nations arch-ideologues, neither are the Inuit. So "aboriginal" DOES have a specific meaning in Canada, which obviously you were unaware of. I didn't change the edit back but you're welcome to do so yourself. Skookum1 02:38, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

Further to this (inserting here) you might want to have a look at the Wikipedia:WikiProject Indigenous peoples of North America and its Talk page, as well as Native American name controversy.Skookum1 02:38, 23 May 2006 (UTC)


And as far as the British/Aus/Commonwealth English thing goes, I supervised the WP pool at the World Bank Conference here years ago and had to deal with 80-120 different brands of official English; 50-70 of them from the Commonwealth, and none of them exactly like each other (the Conference provided us a detailed prospectus of each delegation's preferred use of English - mostly spelling differences - and I had to be completely aware of them all, and counter-check what my underlings had done before releasing it ot the delegation for distribution. Singapore, Malaysia, Hongkong and Australia all have different English spelling systems from each other; as do Pakistan, Bangladesh, Nepal, Burma/Myanmar and India.Skookum1 02:30, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

Do you believe that there might be some who would be under the impression that non-North American aboriginal languages might have affected Canadian English? I think it is fairly intuitive that the term "aboriginal" refers to a population native to a given locality, in this case, Canada. Fishhead64 05:14, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Maple syrup

Any particular reason why you're linking to a blank uncyclopedia page from that article? I thought I'd ask before deleting it again; am I missing something? - DavidWBrooks 18:10, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Edit conflicts

Plese be careful with edit conflicts. I am sure it was an accident, so this is just a friendly reminder.--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus Talk 18:08, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Bordeaux tramway network

Just to let you know I have added my suggested translation/adaptation from the French to your page User:Myrtone (the strict Australian wikipedian)/sandbox/Tramways in Bordeaux. -- Picapica 14:37, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Electromagnetic track brake

I moved your point about the grip of steel versus rubber to the top. "Typically when disc brakes fail" sounded as though they often fail, which they dont(!), so I left this bit out. I hope that's OK. Moonraker88

[edit] More from JackLumber

Myrtone,

  • Blasphemy was but a figure of speech.
  • Nobody says (in books, papers, etc.) that "Canadian spelling is a mixture of British/Irish and American spelling." With respect to written English, British English usually includes English as used in Ireland ("British" here means "related to the British Isles"). Irish English is a term used, for example, when pointing out the differences in spoken language between Ireland and, say, Scotland or England.
  • The MoS should be taken with a grain of salt, exactly like every other Wikipedia article. When an article is patently wrong, it should be fixed. As a linguist, I normally don't give a damn about spelling---spelling has little to do with _language_.
  • Speaking of spelling, unauthorized is never spelled with a u---not even in Australia :-)
  • There is _no_ sense in having the German term next to the English terms at railroad switch. Why not also Swedish, Hindi, or Afrikaans?

Best, JackLumber, 13:46, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Uncyclopedia

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[edit] Railroad switch

Hello,

I realize there's some history of this on your talkpage already, but I'm asking afresh -- hopefully with none of the other baggage others may have on the topic -- why is it we should have the German translation of "Railroad switch" in the lead sentence of the article? —Bunchofgrapes (talk) 23:02, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

The reason why I resotred it a while ago (as a registered user) was becuase, and I have been emphasisng this point for a long time and it has been ignored, I discovered it on this page, however Angr has now removed it, the reason I still keep restoring it is becuase my aforementioned point keeps being ignored. Myrtone@Bunchofgrapes.com.au:-(
And what is your "aforementioned point"? I'm honestly not understanding you here. —Bunchofgrapes (talk) 02:44, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] {{euro-rail-stub}}

I have reverted your arbitrary move and rename of {{euro-rail-stub}} to {{europ-rail-stub}}. This was both unneccessary and inconvenient. We have a seperate WikiProject, WP:STUB, for that, and it'd be greatly appreciated if you would get CONSENSUS there first before shuffling things around like that! If you don't have a clue how Wikipedia works, don't break things just because you feel it is "wrong", but ASK goddamnit. --Doco 07:13, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Uncyclopedia

Yes. It appears an administrator has enabled a 1 week block. Unfortunately, I have no powers at Uncyclopedia (I'm not even a registered member). Wikipedia has no relation to Uncyclopedia whatsoever as far as I am aware, other than both sites using the same MediaWiki software. Sorry I cannot be of any help. -- Longhair 00:20, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Language wikis

No, I don't have an account on any other language wikipedia because people are always getting edgy about non-fluent speakers making poor translations and other mistakes. What was it that Doco said on my user page? It was something about User:Matinluther being too quick or something. My German's not up to scratch. Abbyemery 12:37, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] WP:NOT

Hi, re [1]. Wikipedia is not censored. NSLE (T+C) at 11:46 UTC (2006-06-08)

By the way, your signature is a bit irritating. Can you please keep it simple and not use {{PAGENAME}} in it? NSLE (T+C) at 11:49 UTC (2006-06-08)
There was nothing profane in that. NSLE (T+C) at 12:09 UTC (2006-06-08)
I have made myself very clear on my page - I have the right to remove any comments from my talk page, as does any established user from theirs (as long as they are not vandalism warnings). Please do not re-add your section if you have nothing more to add. NSLE (T+C) at 13:05 UTC (2006-06-08)

[edit] Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Samir (The Scope)

On this RFA, you opposed saying "no templates on his userpage sigifying [sic] ability to comunicate in a non-native language and cannot prove such an ability." I don't understand why an admin has to be multilingual. Also, some users do not like to have userboxes/templates on their userpages, so I don't think your vote is providing fair rationale.--May the Force be with you! Shreshth91(review me!) 12:12, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

BTW, please do not use {{PAGENAME}} in your signature; it's very irritating. --May the Force be with you! Shreshth91(review me!) 12:13, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
I concur with Shreshth91. You are giving the appearence, whether you mean to or not, of making a WP:POINT with your recent oppose votes on several RfAs. Its made worse because you oppose on grounds that very few editors would agree with and don't state the rationale anywhere (that I have found). Why do you believe that editors of en.wikipedia need to speak a non-English language and advertise that on their user page? It would help me if you could explain the reasoning behind this. A number of editors have a subpage for their RfA standards, perhaps that would help? Gwernol 13:30, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
(In reply to your message on my talk page) where did I say I disagreed with you? I'm trying to understand why you think this is a requirement for admins. It may be that this is a good idea, but you haven't explained it anywhere, just stated it. What is the rationale behind this requirement? If you can make the case then you'll change minds and get supporters. Otherwise you're just shouting in the wind and all you'll end up with is a sore throat. Gwernol 13:56, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Your signature

There's a discussion about your signature here I recommened you read and reply to. -- Longhair 13:39, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Brief block. You'd been asked nicely

You were asked nicely and simply responded with dumb insolence. See also this relevant ruling. I'm giving you a three hour block to reflect on this, and expect you to change your signature to something that doesn't abuse Wikipedia facilities to confuse other editors. --Tony Sidaway 13:54, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

And a warning about vandalism, particularly for this edit in which you convert Canadian Shift into a piped link to Candian Shit. --Tony Sidaway 14:10, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
Unblock denied. Fix your sig, which was the reason you were blocked. Until you fix that, you won't be unblocked. --Cyde↔Weys 15:03, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
As I read it, the sig was not the reason for the block, but the generally obstinate reaction to reasonable criticism (which is also seen in other problems higher up on the page). I personally don't find Myrtone's signature to be that much more irritating than Cyde's. The vandalism above in conjunction with the many warnings above make me think this block is justified (as a wakeup call), though. Kusma (討論) 16:46, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
A wake-up call it is. But I think it's reasonable to conclude that a change to a more reasonable signature is expected at this point. --Tony Sidaway 18:23, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
Indeed, not changing the sig now would be needlessly defiant. Kusma (討論) 18:45, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] RfA

On a related note, thanks for your... considered input to my RfA; I have replied there – Gurch 15:13, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

LOL --Cyde↔Weys 15:14, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Deutsch

Hola, you left a message in my user talk where you say a german translator is needed. I know a bit of german, but not enough to translate an article. If the message was for JustPhil, please leave it in his user talk. Rosa 19:52, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Samir (The Scope)

Your oppose vote based on the fact that the user in question was not multilingual now is no longer valid, because Samir says that he speaks English, French and Hindi (see this), so please change your vote. --May the Force be with you! Shreshth91(review me!) 08:42, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

Yes, I know where Shreshth91's request is coming from, and don't think it's a bad one. It would be only appropriate to change the vote when the "problem" has been eliminated.
I see, however, that the original rfa votes were but attempts to troll and disrupt when it first started. Such nonsense will be handled when presented and those actions will always be looked down upon. And if it continues, furthur action will be taken on the noticeboard. No problem at all.
I don't think the troll's vote will be a hinderance for Samir's rfa. His nomination seems to be progressing smoothly. -ZeroTalk 13:46, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Blocked

I have blocked you for 48 hours for continuing to use a disruptive signature and other incivility, e.g. [3], including your highly questionable behaviour on RfAs. Maybe you should actually take that wikibreak and come back with the intention of writing an encyclopaedia instead of trying to defend an unacceptable signature like it's a civil rights campaign. --Sam Blanning(talk) 09:03, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

{{unblock|Bocked for a non-existant "reason," I was on a wikibreak and was mostly inactive on wikipedia since my last block, also I didn't even use that signiture in that time, I disabled the {{PAGENAME}} function, since JackLumber doesn't seem to have an email adress in his prefernces I had to leave a note on his talkpage (I wanted to know his views on this issue). Signitures are the new userboxes [according to Kusma], there is way too much bloodshed over an issue that is otherwise seemingly minor, especially in comparison to contributions.}}

Denied. The incivil edit summary which you seem to have strangely ignored is quite clear, as are your comments on rfa. The block is for a general pattern of disruptive behaviour not your signature alone. --pgk(talk) 10:07, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
Reply to your email: I rather agree with pgk, so to answer your question, probably not. I do think Tony Sidaway has been less than perfectly civil (especially in his block reason), but I can't disagree with the blocks, and I disagree with your assessment of the AN discussion. Petros471 17:14, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

I've blocked you for another twenty-four hours for going back to using that confusing signature. Please change it before you edit again. --Tony Sidaway 07:52, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

Whassup? People are now blocked for their SIGNATURES? You seem to be determined to turn Wikipedia into some kind of concentration camp. His sig is perfectly valid.  Grue  08:02, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
You're still using PAGENAME to put bogus ".com.au" email addresses into your signature. See Samuel Blanning's earlier block notice above. You have said that you had removed the PAGENAME, but now evidently you have restored it. --Tony Sidaway 10:13, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
Apologies, I misread edits to existing (older) comments as new comments with the offending signature. Unblocking. --Tony Sidaway 10:17, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
This is utterly amazing and I commend you for apologising. Please do this more often; apologising for making a mistake does not show weakness at all. In fact, it's an exercise in building character. — Nathan (talk) 23:43, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thank you

Image:WikiThanks.png Hi Myrtone86, thank you for voting in my RFA which failed eventually at a result of (91/51/8). I do not plan to run for adminship until a later date. Once again, I would like to thank you for voting. --Terence Ong (talk | contribs) 03:30, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

Although no consensus was reached in the end, I still wanted to thank you for your vote in my recent RfA. Thank you very much. Fritz Saalfeld (Talk) 17:59, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Stuff

I responded to you on my talk page. If a comment's made anywhere, I respond below it. I don't copy or move the comment, as the person making the comment will watch for responses anyway. If you feel a need to move the comment, feel free to do so but that's how I do things. Thanks. — Nathan (talk) 04:46, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Adminship

YES! I do accept this nomination.- JustPhil 13:24, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] RfA

Sorry, but I closed it due to:

  • Consensus not to promote
  • Everything usefull has been said
  • I don't want it to be a pile-on against him of Oppose votes with no or a redundant expaination.

Bureaucrats and admins often close such nominations.Voice-of-All 01:23, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Blocked

I have blocked you for 48 hours under the disruption clause of Wikipedia's blocking policy. Your continuing nonsensical comments and votes on various RFAs show that you are purposefully trying to disrupt Wikipedia. Once this block expires, please get back to writing the encyclopedia and stop disrupting Wikipedia's process for adminship. --Cyde↔Weys 03:35, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Request for unblocking

I do not agree with Cyde, just becuase I am unusual does not mean that I should be considered disruptive, I am not dumb either, and Cyde is not the ultimate authority in any way either, nor is any wikipedia, regardeless of where they may live. Worse still, Cyde didn't even warn me before blocking. I also disagree in terms of the sense that comments make, just becuase Self-nominations are allowed (offically) does not mean that I must not oppose them on that basis (a simplistic view, wikipedia needs interlectuals, not extremists.)

Denied. Disruption is disruption. Drop it, and when your block expires, get back to writing the damn encyclopaedia, not faffing about getting people's backs up. robchurch | talk 12:04, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

What are you talking about, who says that disruption is disruption? Do you mean that it is objective, if so, who says that it is objective? - Myrtone86, via email

Enough of the pseudophilosophical bullshit. Take it elsewhere, we've got an encyclopaedia to write. robchurch | talk 12:12, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

"Enough of the pseudophilosophical bullshit." No indecent language on my talkpage tnahkyou, you do not resever any ight to be nasty to me like that, thankyou? - Myrtone86, via email

Sigh. Well, when it's sunk in, someone's bound to take pity on you. Maybe then you'll be able to deliver the vastly superior contributions you tout. robchurch | talk 12:16, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
Its 48 hour block. Just wait it out. Then you can do what ever robchurch said. Sheesh. Steve-o 12:21, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
unblock|Are second requests allowed? If so this is my second request, after Robchurch's highly insulting reason for denying my previous request, and his unjust relpies to my emails.
Your block is justified. pschemp | talk 13:30, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
(after edit conflict) Possibly, though now I'm the third fourth person to review it I suggest you stop asking for them after this. Whilst I never approve of un-civil language, I think your recent contributions justify the block for disruption. Therefore, it remains. Please be careful to ensure you don't get blocked again when it expires. Petros471 13:37, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
I support this block. --Tony Sidaway 18:32, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

I just received this email today:

I am getting upset with the wikipedia community, Cyde blocked my account "as per the disruption clause" of wikipedia's blocking policy, which actually states that users will usually be warned before being blocked, so why, given that I am an estalished user, wasn't I warned, that's not fair, it makes me want to cry. Myrtone86

Myrtone, I supported the block at the time and I still do. You were being disruptive, you were asked not to do it by several people, you refused, so you got a block, and I think the claim you were not warned is specious. If that makes you upset with the wikipedia community, you may not have the temperament necessary to be a productive editor here and may want to find a different avocation. It's time to let this go and move on, one way or the other. ++Lar: t/c 13:41, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

And another one:

No one told me I was disruptive, let alone that I was going to be blocked if I continue, I also think my views (even if they are unusual) should be respected more. Why should someone be blocked for expressing a view such as self nominations are silly, or admins need to be multilungual. Also, if other wikipedians can nominate someone else for adminship, why not me? This make wikipedia seem like some sort of dictatorship where users with "different" views are blocked for expressing them, that's why I don't support the block, the wikipedia community seems to take up this "same as friends" attitude.

Suffice it to say I do not agree with any of the above, I feel you were adequately warned and to claim otherwise is wiki-lawyering. If you want respect you have to give respect. Please stop mailing me directly when it would be just as good to do this on wiki. ++Lar: t/c 14:08, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Translation of Tramways in Grenoble

I have finished translating that article. However ask for a third party to check it (for spelling and grammar errors,)

Cheers,

Booksworm Talk to me! 18:32, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] I am reverting your suggested merge

I am reverting your suggested merge. ALWAYS read the talk pages of both articles you are suggesting a merge for, before you make a fool of yourself (and I learned that the hard way when I was new to Wikipedia). Cat's eyes and raised pavement markers may serve similar functions, but the designs and histories are very different. For example, the Heenan design is not self-cleaning because as designed, it doesn't get dirty easily to begin with. It's also cheaper, smaller, and easier to apply to the road. And Botts dots are a whole other object altogether. This was the consensus of the community a year ago and that was why I split the articles. No one has objected until now, because they had the intelligence to review both talk pages first. --Coolcaesar 17:14, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks!

Thanks for the Welsh language links on wikibooks. I'm not worried about learning welsh right now, a) it's only spoken in wales and i try to go there as little as possible (:p) and b) it's so hard! and the words sound nothing like english. ~*~Wikipeace~*~ Abbyemery 17:45, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] South Australia

The official/de facto language of South Australia is english. The German language does not need primacy. It has never been an official language of South Australia and countless other groups have migrated here too with different languages. Adding it is just a distraction from the text. michael talk 09:21, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

So? My points stand: South Australia had countless other groups immigrate and the official language is not German, neither is German spoken by a large number of speakers. michael talk 09:32, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
WP:LAME. If you want to write about German history, language or culture in South Australia, do it in a more appropriate article. The German language has never been official in South Australia, has never been spoken by a large amount of speakers and countless other languages were/are spoken too. Such an addition is folly and a distraction from the text. michael talk 09:46, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
2001 Census Data: South Australia. German was last seen in 1991 at 1.1%. michael talk 09:53, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
The German language has never been official in South Australia. It was never spoken by more than 10% of the population. It is now spoken by less than 0.9% of the population. It does not deserve primacy. michael talk 10:03, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

Since German is not official in South Australia, you can't emphasize the German name like that (note that in New Mexico, for example, English and Spanish are both official). But you can add a note about the German heritage in South Australia (with possibly the German translation of the name) *later on* in the article. JackLumber. 12:35, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

Primacy comes from prime + -cy and means "the quality of that which is prime," that is, superiority or preeminence. My $0.02 re South Australia are just above, I replied yesterday morning. JackLumber. 19:34, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Jesus On Wheels (talk • contribs • logs • block user • block log)

I don't think Cyde's block was very fair, as I checked the disruption clause and it actaully states that users will usually be warned before being blocked, so why wasn't I, given that I am an established user. Myrtone

He obviously considered that you had gone beyond what would be usual:
I have blocked you for 48 hours under the disruption clause of Wikipedia's blocking policy. Your continuing nonsensical comments and votes on various RFAs show that you are purposefully trying to disrupt Wikipedia. Once this block expires, please get back to writing the encyclopedia and stop disrupting Wikipedia's process for adminship. --Cyde↔Weys 03:35, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
Wikipedians who act sensibly, with consideration for others and proper contributions, are not blocked. I suggest that your intelligence could be put to much better use on sound research and editing, which you would get far more satisfaction and self-respect from than nominating hopeless cases for adminship etc and wasting everyone's time. Tyrenius 04:50, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

What I did was nominate JustPhil for adminship and also opposed a number of self-nominations on the basis that self nomionations are silly, being blocked for that felt repressive, I don't understand how expressing such a view could be disruptive. BTW I beleive Cyde to be a she rather than a he becuase of her reason for blocking one of the troll accounts. Myrtone

Then I would take care to act differently in the future. Tyrenius 12:23, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

"Then I would take care to act differently in the future" I don't understand that comment. Myrtone

If what you have done has resulted in a block, I suggest you do not do those things again. Tyrenius 15:12, 5 July 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Bullshit

I have no idea what you were playing at with your last edit to Bullshit but you left took out an apparently random run of text, leaving behind a nonsensical opning paragraph to this article. This is clear vandalism. It appears to be a deliberate attempt to get yourself blocked, especially when taken in conjunction with the edit summary. Please consider this a formal warning not to vandalize Wikipedia. Gwernol 07:44, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Blocked

You have been blocked for vandalism, spamming various talk pages, posting inappropriate and trollish speculations about another user's gender/identity, and generalized disruption. In the whole scope of things, you probably got off easy. Please consider doing something useful if/when your block expires. — Jul. 6, '06 [13:51] <freak|talk> {{unblock|Why was that image left on my talkpage, what exactly was the disrution}}

Stop trolling.--SB | T 13:54, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

The message about Cyde was not "gender libel" or "trolling", it was about whether to call Cyde a he or she. Ashibaka tock 03:50, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

Re your email, looks like you've been unblocked. - CrazyRussian talk/email 04:57, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
Re your email, I am not willing to intervene if you are blocked. Tyrenius 22:32, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wigwag move

Quick question and comment: Are you going to go through the wigwag links to disambiguate them or are you looking for help in that task? When you did the move, the todolist wasn't moved along with the talk page (I've fixed this); subpages don't move when the parent page moves. Slambo (Speak) 16:31, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Railroad

The OED is clear. The first two quotations for railroad are British, and the editors point up that the term is "...now chiefly U.S.," railway being now the usual British term. JackLumber. 19:32, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] User template

Per the German userbox solution, {{User South Australian}} was moved to {{User:ScottDavis/Template:User South Australian}}

Myrtone, where was the discussion about moving and breaking Template:User South Australian ? I am puzzled by two things:

  1. How did my user space get selected to move it to?
  2. Why did you edit the redirect into an ugly box without first changing all of the references to it as is required by Wikipedia:German userbox solution?

--Scott Davis Talk 09:58, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

I didn't think it would be such a big deal, I chose your namespace becuase somehow I though it was the most suitable. Myrtone
  1. It would have been polite to ask first.
  2. You should have changed the ones you use, such as Template:User VIC res before trying to impose your opinion on the rest of us.
  3. You should have changed all the pages that include the template before breaking the redirect.
I don't have time now, but could well decide to undo your work on any broken boxes. --Scott Davis Talk 10:30, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
I can find nothing on that page that says to pick a random user and thrust a userbox into their space without asking if it's OK. It describes users adopting userboxes and moving them into their own user pages. There could be any number of reasons why I might not have wanted to be the custodian of that SA userbox.
Your German comment again suggests you seem to think all South Australians speak German first and English as a second language! Should I assume all Victorians speak Greek!?
It is noted that WP:GUS is not a policy. It seems rude for you to push it onto other userboxes, but not the ones you use. --Scott Davis Talk 14:09, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks to User:Phil Boswell for cleaning up behind you. I deliberately put the broken template to illustrate this discussion, so have substed that above. --Scott Davis Talk 08:27, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] {{welcome-snoop}}

That template is quite funny, but it's not something that Wikipedia should be welcoming users with. You can of course use that text when you think it's appropriate, so I moved it to your userspace (User:Myrtone86/welcome-snoop for future reference. Zocky | picture popups 14:33, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Moving userboxes

Hi Mytone86, I re-moved a userbox to User:Rfrisbie/Userbox/Australian English to maintain a consistent naming convention that helps me keep track of what's in my userspace. You're welcome to add other boxes, but please use this naming style. Regards, Rfrisbietalk 18:56, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

I re-moved User:Rfrisbie/Userbox/VW Beetle for the same reason. Rfrisbietalk 19:00, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hello

Thanks for your support. I've had a run in with him today over a few things such as what idioms we use here in Australia, etc. And he has also accused me of harassment – for which I've appologised, if he feels my actions are harassment as I did not intend them to be. It appears that he has taken ownership of a few articles, such as List of idioms in the English language and American and British English spelling differences. If he changes my improvements, I don't think I'll edit those articles again. Anyway, Cheers. 203.94.135.134 04:55, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Message from 3rdman...

Hi Mr. Tone,

I'm not exactly sure what I did wrong, but if I caused you any inconvenience, I'm sorry. I'm a fairly new member to the Wikipedia community, and I have realized there are ALOT of rules and regulations to follow when posting and editing material... Maybe too many for the liking. Anyhow, thanks for your message.

Sincerely, 3rdman

[edit] Re: archive pages are not routinely protected

Myrtone86 wrote:

Why exactly is this, I really think they should. Myrtone

I think the current argument against protection is as follows:

  • Archive pages don't satisfy any of the criteria for protection, so protecting them would go against official policy.
  • "Pre-emptive" protection of pages is strongly discouraged; we don't protect pages just because we think they might be vandalised at some time in the future.
  • We try to keep the number of protected pages as small as possible, partly because each page has to be listed on Wikipedia:List of protected pages, but mostly because protection defeats the whole point of Wikipedia – that anyone can edit it.
  • There are several thousand talk archives in total; protecting them all would be infeasible, and there's no reason to protect some and not others – that would only lead to confusion.

If you feel the policy should be changed, you are encouraged to discuss this at Wikipedia talk:Protection policy. Thanks – Gurch 13:10, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Ideal picture of Swingnose

Ideally there should be two pictures of a swingnose crossing one in the normal position and one in the reverse position.

Tabletop 23:35, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Category:Reviewed protected edit requests

About Category:Reviewed protected edit requests. Iot sure why this was created. It seems to me that protected edit requests get looked at once then are either done or the {editprotected} is removed. Why the subcategory?--Commander Keane 09:30, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Tell Someone Who Cares.....

I'm sorry I made a mistake by erasing the sandbox templates, but PLEASE don't leave annoying messages in my talk box OK? I don't care if you are an Administrator... It was my first time using sandbox, and I made a mistake. Try and consider that next time. --3rdman 00:13, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

"And Mr. Tone is *not* my username, Myrtone is an old Greek name, which was the name of Socrates' wife. Myrtone"

[edit] Thanks Myrtone...

Hi Myrtone,

Thanks, I appreciate your last message to me. All these Rules and Regulations are quite daunting to a new user like me. I understand that there are serious Copyright issues when posting pictures and articles. But, quite frankly, there are WAY too many rules rules and regulations governing this site. And the Administrators (no, not just you) are very quick to jump the gun and think the user up to nefarious stuff... When actually its more than likely to be an honest mistake the user has made. Thanks. --3rdman 00:29, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Biscuits & Cookies

Hi Myrt. Biscuit (literally, "twice-cooked") technically is not a "French" loanword, but rather Anglo-French since it dates back to C14; it has many cognates in other languages, as you pointed out (French, German, Italian, etc.) The original meaning is the one you and the British are still familiar with; the American meaning is the result of a shift. Cookie is an early C18 Dutch loan that entered American English via New York City, like many other Dutch loans (e.g. boss). UNT, JackLumber. 22:03, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Blocked for disruption

I have blocked you for a week for your disruptive edit to Template:Usernameblock. Given your history of disruption, including several recent blocks, I feel that you have no excuse for not expecting that adding a silly face to every single occurence of a frequently-used, sensitive template would result in sanction, nor would a shorter block be appropriate. --Sam Blanning(talk) 16:10, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

I have posted an expanded rationale on WP:ANI for review. --Sam Blanning(talk) 16:28, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

unblock reviewed|I didn't know that would be disruptive, it was just an honest mistake, futhermore, I do not see how one little edit at {{UsernameBlock}} could be regarded as "disruptive"|As you've been blocked for disruptive activity before you need to be careful in what you are doing, the fact that you don't understand the inappropriateness of adding an "angry face" to an administrative template would suggest that further problems will arise if unblocked.

I unblocked you, blocks are meant to be preventative and not punitive. Ashibaka tock 19:10, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Reverted your changed to Template:User en

Hi there, I've reverted your changed to Template:User en for reasons explained at Template_talk:User_en#Additions_by_User:Myrtone86. --Saforrest 23:13, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Userboxes in my userspace

Hi ... I noticed that you moved several userboxes into my userspace, including User:BigDT/Template:User Adelaide, User:BigDT/Template:User Adelaide Ger, User:BigDT/Template:User Audi, User:BigDT/Template:User Australia res, and User:BigDT/Template:User BMW. Is there a reason for this? BigDT 18:16, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Note to me

In reply to your note on my talk page, I am adamantly opposed to changing my name. However, I could change my signature as to say something else. How about SoaP? Son of a Peach 19:44, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

In response to an extremely fragmented conversation, I have no farghing clue what you have just said! At all! Please...clarify. Thanks. SoaP 11:52, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
I'm not looking for a usergroup, Myrtone. I am trying to improve an encyclopaedia. In fact, I seek adminship. If you cannot understand the difference between a chat-room and a collaborative encyclopaedia, then you have a major malfunction, the likes of which are far worse than my username. SoaP

[edit] Son of a Peach

Myrtone, your comments oon this user's talk page are highly incivil personal attacks. Please stop. Thanks, Gwernol 14:10, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Languages

Hi There! Can you translate my name in what language you know please, and then post it Here. I would be very grateful if you do (if you know another language apart from English and the ones on my userpage please feel free to post it on) P.S. all th translations are in alpahbetical order so when you add one please put it in alpahbetical order according to the language. Thanks!!! Abdullah Geelah 13:07, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Not sure, but...

When you "improved" my welcome, it started messing up. I reverted it back the way it was. By any chance, might you tell me what you were trying to do with it? Perhaps it does need improving. I am open to that. Kukini 17:50, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Myrtone - what the furghe?

Please stop removing my comments from talk pages, saying they are "trolling" and "incivil". I do not appreciate this. Thank you. SoaP 23:26, 7 August 2006 (UTC) Any established user researves the right to delete comments from their talkpage except vandalism warnings, anyway I am on a wikibreak. And you have been blocked for trolling before. Myrtone (☏) 00:30, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] My User page Semi-Protection

Thank you for your recomendation. My request was granted, and my user page is now semi-protected. Thanks for telling me :-) User:Tom walker 17:42 GMT 8 August 2006

[edit] Persipan - requested translation

Hi, I've done this. Well, almost - it needs a bit more work I think. Rbreen 21:03, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Userpage protection

Thanks for the email, and the suggestion for protecting my userpage. I will consider it. Cheers, --TeaDrinker 00:59, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

I'm sorry for the delayed response but i feel i must thank you for the welcome which you sent me on the 2nd August.

I would also like to thank you for sending the "how to"'s

Cheers Richard

[edit] Contacting me via email (broken?)

That's certainly news to me. I assumed all was working well in regards to my email contact. I just checked the MediaWiki preferences relating to my account and saw a notice stating "Your e-mail address was authenticated on 14:17, June 8, 2006". I have no option to re-authenticate my address that I can find but I'll look into it deeper shortly. All has been working fine to my knowledge, though I admit it's been a little quiet of late. Perhaps a change in the software occured I wasn't aware of.

Now, what was it I could help you with? I usually only reply to private emails sent to myself from blocked users and prefer anything that relates to the wiki to remain on-wiki for transparency. -- Longhair\talk 02:01, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Blocked

Despite warnings in the past about editing templates disruptively, you appear to be doing this again. You have been blocked for 24 hours to prevent this behaviour. Please do not continue it when your block expires. pschemp | talk 17:04, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

I have just been blocked agiain by Pschemp for edits to template without warning she thinks I was wanred. Would ytou unblock me please [if] that is okay.

When you edit major templates, you have to be very careful. You obviously made a mistake with these templates and you shouldn't make such strange edits without asking other editors beforehand. But you're right-- blocks should be preventative and not punative, so I will unblock. Ashibaka tock 03:08, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

you were warned months ago. repeating that behaviour later and then claiming you weren't warned is not an excuse. pschemp | talk 04:47, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] happy Turkey Day!!!!!

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