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[edit] Merge proposal
Proposal: merge Mustard plant into Culinary mustard. Culinary mustard discusses mustard greens, so there seems to be an overlap between the two articles. Badagnani 05:01, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
- Support... I agree entirely. Also, there seems to be no reason that the two articles should remain separate, even if redundancy was avoided. Culinary mustard is a derivative of the mustard plant.MrPMonday 00:06, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
- Disagree: Botanically, mustard refers to an entire group of plants (cf. Brassica), only a few of which are used for food. Graham 23:18, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
- Merge into both part fits into the culinary mustard#mustard green article, part fits into the brassica article. Gzuckier 14:19, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] yes, merge
In the course of writing out why the pages should remain seperate, I realized otherwise. Although the two pages cover somewhat disparate aspects of the topic right now, a well-organized page that dealt first with the botany and then uses through history culminating in current culinary practices would be easy to read, would prevent reiteration between two pages and would offer a more complete description of 'mustard' than either page ever would alone. As these pages grow, a merged page will remain clear and well-organized, whereas two different pages would get increasingly jumpy or redundant. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Radcen (talk • contribs) 02:38, 23 June 2006.
- So I still think maybe a merge should occur. There are a lot of different plants that can be called Mustard, and it seems strange to have an article about the genus of plants, and then this article as well.--Andrew c 02:42, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
Disagree I disagree with merging this page with Culinary Mustard, because mustard plants produce other edibles such as mustard greens and mustard seeds (particularly important in Indian cuisine). Also, this page needs more information on the importance of mustard as a crop as well as the prevalence of wild mustard as a troublesome weed. If these were added, the page's importance would be enhanced. --Sofia Roberts 00:07, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
Disagree, yeah, I gotta agree that mustard the condiment is probably the most minor use of mustard the plant. Gzuckier 14:35, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
Thank you both for commenting. I agree that the mustard plant should not redirect to mustard condiment. However, we have articles on individual species, and families that are considered "mustard plant". There is some overlap. How exactly does this article differ from brassica?-Andrew c 17:16, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
You are welcome. I think the overlap arises because "mustard" applies to the generic name of the brassicas, a number of weeds, and some subsidiary uses of the plant. None of these apply to "rutabaga" or "bok choy." Mustard is, however, really comparable to these as a subset of brassicas. Ideally, all the plants that belong to the brassica family would have subheadings on the brassica page, and what we are calling here is the mustard family would be one of them, albeit with a longer entry. I disagree with merging it with brassicas, and one way to differentiate it more is to expand it as I mentioned above. --Sofia Roberts 18:21, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
