Talk:Mueang

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Subdivisions of Thailand says: The district which contains the capital is named Amphoe Mueang

so what's the meaning of Mueang? Tobias Conradi (Talk) 23:26, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

Mueang is simply "city" or "town" - thus "Amphoe Mueang" means something like city district. However the cities nowadays have as full name "thesaban mueang" (see List of cities in Thailand). Thus to call "Mueang" a "former subdivison" is nonsense, as I tried to explain at Category talk:Former provinces of Thailand at the beginning of the 20th century there was no division between "town" and "province", and even today many Thais don't know about those "thesaban" entities. IMHO instead of this nanostub (wikipedia is not a dictionary) this can be redirect to List of cities in Thailand, or a yet to create article about the administrative structures of cities is Thailand. andy 08:48, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

Talk:Monthon , because after what you say here the article is buggy. Tobias Conradi (Talk) 17:50, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

What do you mean? What part is wrong? andy 17:53, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

It says monthon were made up of changwats. then you come and say XY changwat (Category talk:Former provinces of Thailand) was not a changwat, but a mueang. This info should be added to monthon. The intro does not mention mueang at all. Tobias Conradi (Talk) 17:57, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

The monthon did contain provinces, which however were more-or-less just cities. The term changwat was introduced during the administrative reforms, at first in 1907 for the provinces in Monthon Pattani, and in 1916 it became in general use. Before these entities were usually simply called Mueang. The fact that these towns became provinces in the modern sense is covered in Provinces of Thailand. andy 18:12, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

Maybe instead of writing here, fix monthon. This article is confusing.

  • Together with the monthon also the still existing provinces (changwat), districts (amphoe) and communes (tambon) were established nationwide.
  • The system was officially adopted by the 1897 Local Administration Act, after some monthon were established before and the details of administration were tried out. Tobias Conradi (Talk) 18:25, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
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