User talk:Mrcurly

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Mr Curly 11:33, 6 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Helpful resources

Thatdog (Talk) 18:25, 27 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Mount Mauao and Battle of Kokowai and copyright

Hi Mrcurly. You put a lot of material into Mount Mauao and Battle of Kokowai. Almost all of it seems to be directly copied from other sources. Although you added the sources to the "References and external sites" section, the quotes were not in quotation marks and the sources were not directly associated with each quote. Can you confirm that your use of the material does not breach copyright (Wikipedia:copyright)? thanks. Nurg 06:03, 29 April 2006 (UTC)


Hi Nurg, thankyou for bringing this to my attention.

In regards to the article Mount Mauao, subsections titled "Geography" and "History" are almost entirely lifted from the given sources. I submit that in these circumstances this constitutes fair use. I find that it satisfies the four points listed within Title 17, Chapter 1, ยง107 of the United States Code. However, if it is held that such material does not constitute fair use, please advise and rather than removing the article I suggest we work to recreate the article in a manner to which it sufficiently differs from the given sources in its expression of ideas, if this proves necessary.

The article Battle of Kokowai however is a different matter. That is not the final state I had intended to leave the article, rather being a clipboard for the information which later would be moulded into an article. Needless to say that was some time ago. Having not looked at that article since I created it, assuming that other editors have not themselves collaberated it with other sources (which I recall were difficult to locate online); removing the content and providing only a link to the source would be more appropriate. This case differs from the Mount Mauao article because as I recall it is a copy of almost the entire one source, rather than copies of minor parts of different sources.

Again, thankyou for your comments. Mr Curly 06:02, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

Hi. Firstly, I think the fair use policy applies more to the use of images, etc. All text in Wikipedia is licensed under the GFDL, and copying something onto Wikipedia without permission is not only copying without permission, but it's also releasing the work under the GFDL without their permission (meaning that it technically isn't under the GFDL, but that everyone else thinks it is).
Anyway, that aside, the reason I'm leaving a message here is because I've proposed the Mount Mauao be moved back to Mauao. This is because I have never heard of it referred to as Mount Mauao, just Mauao or Mount Maunganui, and I believe anyone who really cares considers it correct to call it Mauao (or Mount Maunganui, particularly by people who don't care about the more correct Maori name). If you disagree with me, or for any reason think the article shouldn't be moved back, feel free to add your viewpoint to the discussion at Talk:Mount Mauao.
Thanks, Markdarb 20:43, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
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