Talk:Mount Waverley Secondary College

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

This article is very biased. The "Curriculum" section was less about the curriculum as opposed to bagging points about the school the writer(s) didn't like. It should be noted that a lot of the points mentioned could be aimed at any school. VCE subjects are removed and added according to student demand in many high schools. As for Media Studies, last year 3 Mount Waverley students got study scores of 50. The criticism about the SRC was also unfair. It is not unusual for teachers to be overly involved in student government, whether this is right or not it is unfair to single out Mount Waverley. This article could do with some work.Kid Phantom

As a former student, I agree with Kid Phantom over the biased nature of this article. The alumni section does not mention former students such as Dean Jones, Brett Godfrey & Graham 'Shirley' Strachan but rather criminals to portray the school in a negative light.

I removed a lot of the stuff about non-notable people from the school that weren't relevant or encyclopedic. -- Longhair 12:09, 4 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Relevant

Re: "== Bias and almost slanderous == - - What has religion got to do with the extra-curiculum? - - What is the actual point of raising the fact of persausive writing go to do with it? - - As a current student, I believe whoever wrote this, were expressing their personal opinion rather that being indescriminatory to the cost of the college and the community."

Your last sentence is poorly written, and contains poorly punctuated or contradictory terms, "rather that indescriminatory to the cost of the college..." thus it is hard to determine precisely the basis of your argument.

The legibility of your comments possibly reflect the emotional state in which you may have typed them. That or the quality of education currently on offer at M.W.S.C.

Separation of church and state From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia "Some Australian judges (see Murphy ([2])) have gone so far as to say that the government cannot support religious schools, even if done in a non-discriminatory way. The High Court of Australia, however, has consistently allowed funding of religious schools. State aid for non-Government schools became an issue in 1962 and was a major campaign issue in the 1963 federal election, following which federal and State Government funds have supported non-Government schools."

However, as referenced above, seemingly the factual accounts regarding religious activities within the college may be relevant. That wiki entries for other public schools may or may not contain similar accounts and explanations as to their relevance to the reader/community, in my opinion, does not render these account as unduly discriminatory towards the college. Allegations of slander would be disingenuous at best as you can't/don't dipsute that factually, such events took place and therefore the relevance of raising the issue of religion in public schools, case in point, this public school.

That you are/were a current student and I was a student of the college in question does not mean the purpose of Wikipedia has anything to do with a "cost of(sic)the college" - Perhaps you might be the one being discriminatory in your motivations to provide comment. Besides, this is not "Airwaves" thus the "cost" to the college does not have bearing on, and should not dilute, the interests of Wikipedia.

[edit] "Kool Schools CD incident" section

I removed this section because it is poorly written, doesn't adhere to encyclopedic style, is subjective and contains many unsourced statements. It should not be replaced until it can meet the standard required of an encyclopedic article. The subject matter is arguably not suitable for the article anyway.

[edit] Kool Skool's CD incident

Another episode of the ongoing saga to affirm the college's establishment of marketing conservative overtones; An enraged parent of a student at the school embarked on a campaign against the Studio 52 recording company's "Kool Skools CD" nationwide project. Reports of the complaints of this puritanical parent surfaced in print media as production for the annual project's 2003 installment commenced.

The parent objected to lyrics contained in the song "Slappin' It" by Melbourne band Freakapottamus. The Parent's actions taken against the project included sending fax messages to schools nationwide in protest of the Studio 52 project.

Although the project continues, evidently how it is conducted is now subject to constrictive artistic befoulment in the form of censorship, or considerably worse artistically, self-censorship "as the project has developed, Studio 52's producers have become more conservative."

"Many of these kids are pretty smart," Mr Higgins says. "Most of the supervision is done by the individual schools, but I now keep an eye on the material. Some of them will write defamatory pieces - anti-McDonald's or anti-John Howard songs, for example - at the drop of a hat.

The discs are CD-ROMs that also contain video and graphics produced by students. In some schools, among them Melbourne High School, students handle the entire project, learning about production and the recording business as they go through the making of their albums in professional surroundings.

- according to "http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2003/02/26/1046064095744.html"

Possibly in this instance, a person involved with Mount Waverley Secondary College has subtly imparted a socially conservative agenda thus stifling debate on a broad range of topic, to a project originally aimed at an independent student effort. Such actions could be described as conforming with the MWSC's litany of narrowing the field of Social Commentary, while marketing itself as promoting independent initiative through student's extra-curricular activities. Remarkably other schools whose students are involved in the project are reportedly encouraged to do so at a much more independent level, however it would be hard to determine the implied self-restraints such schools may require regarding artistic content.