Talk:Mount Meru (Mythology)

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Could the Zoroastrian Hara be included here, being as it is possible Meru and Hara originate from the same source?

"This, coupled with evidence indicating that the early Aryans resided in the arctic regions, has led many to infer that mount Meru actually refers to the north pole."

Who says the Aryans come from the arctic?! This needs to be backed up, clarified or deleted.

Khirad 06:56, 26 September 2005 (UTC)


I don't know about "evidence" but the arctic region was one of the proposed original "homelands" of the Aryans before the alleged migrations to, or invasions of various places.

The idea of an arctic homeland (north pole) ties in with the 'polar' symbolism common to mountains or elevated places as a "center of the world/universe" so I would have to agree that Meru represents this type, or Idea, but to say that "Meru actually refers to the North Pole" is missing the mark (mistaking the symbolic for the physical). For references to such a Tradition or symbolism see Julius Evola and Rene Guenon.


There's a Japanese page matching this topic.

http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E9%A0%88%E5%BC%A5%E5%B1%B1

How can I add it to the "In Other Languages" list? Madler 21:04, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Merge proposal

I strongly oppose merging Mount Meru (Mythology) and Sumeru, as in general the combination of articles on Hindu and Buddhist topics which happen to have similar names leads to confusion and the false assumption that the set of attributes belonging to one topic also belongs to the other. The myths about Meru and Vayu, or Meru and Agastya, have nothing to do with the Buddhist Sumeru. The Buddhist cosmology in which Sumeru corresponds to the three worlds of the Asuras, the Four Heavenly Kings, and the Thirty-three gods is separate from the Hindu cosmology. Including a lot of Buddhist material in this article will drown out the distinctive character of the Hindu Meru. The same arguments go for proposals (like the one above) to combine Meru and Hara Berezaiti. They are similar concepts; but they are not the same. RandomCritic 16:58, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

This article DID introduce both Hindu and Buddhist concepts. That's why I am confused. I have removed the relevant content about Buddism from this article. But if it is not the case, i.e., if both Hindu and Buddhism use the same term of Meru (if Meru and Sumeru are interchangable in Buddhism), then we may need to establish "Meru (Hindu)" and "Meru (Buddhism)". --Neo-Jay 19:30, 3 September 2006 (UTC)