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"Killer Moth's appearance in the Teen Titans animated series bears a notable resemblance to descriptions of the Mothman." is false. This cartoon villain looks nothing like the moth descriptions anywhere. google the image and you'll see.
Aside from being moth based, it is an obvious parody, the episoded ended with him destroying the town's suspension bridge.
2nd paragraph:
Skeptics have argued (notably in the March/April 2002 issue of the magazine Skeptical Inquirer) that the most likely explanation of the sightings is excited eyewitnesses mistaking a barn owl.
-I removed this paragraph because (on the magazine's website, I haven't read the issue in question, however) there is no reference to Mothman and/or a debunking in the Mar/Apr '02 issue contents. However, the "mistaking a barn owl" story reminded me of the debunking of a completely different "mystery monster" story in another issue. That issue turned out to be the Nov/Dec 2000 issue.
Hypernovean 11:27, 21 Dec 2003 (UTC)
- I put the Skeptical Inquirer back, as the article is, indeed, in that issue - I've got the copy right here, written by the indubitable Joe Nickell. (Note that it's 2002, not 2003) Here's a LookSmart link:
http://www.findarticles.com/cf_0/m2843/2_26/83585954/p1/article.jhtml
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- Ahh, sorry then. I guess there are a lot of "barn owl monsters" :) Hypernovean 03:11, 22 Dec 2003 (UTC)
Regarding the changing of "none has" to . "none have" - this is a source of much grammatical debate. Purists say "none" means "not one" and therefore is singular but many people feels "none" means roughly "none of the possibilities" and therefore is plural. I won't revert, just mentioning it. DavidWBrooks 18:14, 17 Feb 2004 (UTC)
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- Although it is a bit late, the correct grammatical structure is indeed "none have" because "not one" is actually not singular; it is instead a plural negation - a disinclusion of many people into a group, and all those people are the subject. The phrase "not one" is just a figure of speech. I know it's not relevant anymore, but I hope it helps someone in the future. --Deriamis 20:18, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
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[edit] Movie out
There is a movie out, on DVD as well called The Mothman Prophecies. Martial Law 05:32, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Mothman / Killer Moth
Do we have a source for that comment about Mothman being named for a villain on the '60s Batman series? The moth-themed Batman villain was "the Killer Moth", not "Mothman", and the one episode of that particular show that featured him never actually aired. 04:39, 12 December 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Pop culture references
Do you guys think Mothmonster man from Aqua Teen Hunger Force is a reference to mothman? He does terrify them for a while, although he's rather nice and laid-back. Identity0 04:02, 29 December 2005 (UTC)
- I removed the ATHF reference from the list. If anyone feels the need to put it back in there, it definitely needs to be rephrased. It said that the ATHF episode parodied a scene from the film "The Mothman Prophecies", in spite of the fact that the episode came out almost 4 months prior to the film. If it is a reference to the Mothman, it was not a reference to the film. Juansmith 08:36, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
The conclusion that in the Cthulhu Mythos universe the mothman sightings would have been Byakhee sightings seems entirely speculative, since AFAIK the Mothman was never mentioned in any books following the mythos. If this is mentioned in a book, or a Call of Cthulhu sourcebook or something, it needs to be properly attributed. Also, Raziel from Soul Reaver is a fairly typical design for a demon: his wings are batlike, and his body is more or less human with a distinct head and normal-sized eyes as opposed to a headless, furry mass with huge eyes set in the chest. Making a connection there seems spurious. Finally, Arthur from The Tick is just a guy in a winged costume, and aside from the ability to fly and the intent to be a moth (although everyone assumes his costume to be that of a winged bunny), he doesn't have anything to do with the Mothman (unless somebody can dredge up a quote by Ben Edlund of being inspired by stories about the Mothman or something). — Gwalla | Talk 18:32, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
I fail to see how Arthur, the sidekick from The Tick, has *anything* to do with the Mothman aside from the moth-themed suit. Is any moth usage a "pop culture" reference to the Mothman? The connection to Silent Hill is just as spurious. The bridge is out, not wrecked, and not far through the game you activate it and cross.
[edit] ATHF Mothmonsterman
Yes, I know there's a reference to this in the previous Talk entry, but I see an edit war on the horizon since I've removed this two or three times, and it's been put back in every time.
- There is absolutely zero evidence to support any connection between Mothmonsterman and the Mothman. People think Wikipedia is often wildly inaccurate for a reason. You want to help Wikipedia gain a better reputation? Stop entering baseless claims like this one. Encyclopedias are based on facts, not opinions. Kestrel 17:43, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
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- You want to help wikipedia gain a better reputation? Then try to be a bit nicer. 69.179.121.92 00:52, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
Yes, you need to get off your highhorse and stop thinking your God.
[edit] HP Lovecroft
How can things written before the sighting of the Mothman be referances to the Mothman?--Atechi 22:51, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Popluar Culture off-topic tag
Several items listed in the Popular Culture section are not focused on the main topic of the article. The Mothman article is about "a strange creature sighted many times in the Charleston and Point Pleasant areas of West Virginia between November 1966 and November 1967." Some of the items listed in this section reference creatures, characters, and entities that are moth-like, but are not related specifically to the "creature" the article is written about. A good way to deal with this issue without losing the interesting information already listed here would be to create a new article about moth-like creatures, and to create a disambiguation article. --ndyguy 01:50, 13 August 2006 (UTC)
- Tag was removed by (19:25, 13 August 2006 Treybien) with no significant change to the section and no reasoning left in the talk page. The tag was reinserted. ndyguy 23:59, 13 August 2006 (UTC)
- A reminder, the article is not about creatures that look like or are called Mothman. It is about "a strange creature sighted many times in the Charleston and Point Pleasant areas of West Virginia between November 1966 and November 1967." ndyguy 00:04, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Mothman/Killer Moth
The character of "Killer Moth" was featured in Batman comic books of the period, but not in the TV series.
[edit] Repeated information
the section first sightings is largely a different telling of the facts in history.
[edit] Invader Zim
Dib's code name for the paranormal research group "The Swollen Eyeball" is "Agent Mothman" -n8lewis
[edit] First Sightings
The entire first sightings section is a mess and seems to repeat a lot of what was above. This should probably be merged to the history section of the article, removing all the redundant information. It also is totally uncited. Titanium Dragon 04:55, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
