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Contents 1 Onyanko Club 2 Kei sub-leader or co-leader? 3 Abe Natsumi 4 Nicknames 5 Sub groups 6 Shuffle groups 7 Diagram 8 U.S TV 9 Plagarism Chick 10 Discography 11 Ages 12 TWO NEW GIRLS

[edit] Onyanko Club

I don't know if it's worth mentioning in the article, but I just learned of a large-member idol group in the eighties called Onyanko Club. Is it worth mentioning that they were the first large idol group and (possibly?) paving the way for something like Momusu? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 63.228.114.20 (talk • contribs) .

If you have a reference to something stating they were the first large group like that in Japan, then sure, go ahead and add it. --日本穣 04:32, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Kei sub-leader or co-leader?

From my understanding, since Yuko's graduation Kaori and Kei were co-leaders until Kei's grad (after which there were leader and sub-leader positions). Can anyone confirm this?

[edit] Abe Natsumi

Nothing about Nacchi leaving due to a plagiarism scandal? She's been on a "leave of absence" since the end of November, but will be returning in February. Here's a forum thread about her return. --Shadowsong 18:01, 10 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Well that did occur AFTER she graduated from Morning Musume. Such info is more appropiate for the Hello! Project article. --Pmsyyz 22:14, 26 Mar 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Nicknames

Is there any reason why all of the nicknames for the band members are wikified? Nicknames should point to the person not to an entirely new article. Addps4cat 08:54, 30 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Sub groups

Should all of those groups be listed as sub groups? A Morning Musume sub group is one made up of Morning Musume members, not every Hello! Project group as is listed there. The only ones that would qualify as sub groups would be Sakura Gumi, Otome Gumi, Tanpopo, Mini Moni, and Pucchi Moni. --Sanchny 05:17, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

I'd say "side projects" for acts like ROMANS, Aa!, etc. but I think it would be best to stick with H!P vernacular somewhat and still refer to them as sub groups. Sakuragumi and Otomegumi were referred to as splinter groups at times when the two pair of singles were released but that's about it.

I can see what you mean with some groups listed there, like W (Double You), who technically would be a spinoff group, not a sub group, but that would be getting into rather anal-retentive territory.

I'd say stick with calling every group that's spun off from Morning Musume, even they ended up being one-offs like Aa!, ROMANS, DEF.DIVA, etc., or "new" more permanant acts like W (Double You) and V-u-den. -- Cjmarsicano 06:38, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

Okay, I see. But specifically, what about Melon Kinenbi, Coconuts Musume, T&C Bomber, Sheki-dol, and Berryz, none of which have ever had any direct relation to MM in terms of members?

Country Musume, though they've ended up having MM members in their lineup, were originally created separately from MM as well, only sharing the Musume name (like Coconuts). --Sanchny 18:27, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

Good idea removing most of the groups from the sub groups, all the H!P groups in that list have been bugging me for a while. Fujimoto and Konno are only "On loan" to Country, so it wouldn't make it a sub group, because like Sanchny said, they just share the Musume name. Sploggers 22:32, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

I'd leave Country Musume alone. Considering that first Rika Ishikawa, and then Asmai Konno and Miki Fujimoto, were also in that band, that kinda makes Country Musume a subgroup of sorts, doesn't it? --Cjmarsicano 22:12, 15 December 2005 (UTC)

Don't forget Eco Moni! Patiwat 11:46, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Shuffle groups

I think the shuffle groups would be best suited for the Hello! Project article- they've pretty much been all the members of H!P at the time split up into groups (the only big exception I can see is the 2005 shuffles) and aren't specific to Momusu. Or even just put a link to it in the H!P article, seeing as the shuffle groups have their own article.

Couldn't agree with you more. There is also a page about them right here. I'm gonna go ahead and remove them for now, and if anyone disputes it, can put their reason here for wanting to leave it in the momusu article. Sploggers 21:23, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Diagram

Perhaps a sort of Rock Family Tree could be included in the History section.--Darrelljon 18:28, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] U.S TV

Morning Musume also appeared on many asian TV programmes.If those are not mentioned, I dont think the US TV appearence worths it. 61.238.68.250 11:46, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Plagarism Chick

What was the point of this? I mean she had a solo career. If she was that desperate, she should've gone back to MoMusu. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 199.80.117.24 (talk • contribs) .

[edit] Discography

The discography section of this article is quite messy and needs cleaning up. We either do that or just move the whole discography section to a new page, Morning Musume discography, or maybe a subpage. Eugh jei 00:45, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, I just created a new article page and I added a link to it in the Discography section. I haven't fixed up the singles section yet though. --Chuck チャック 05:14, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Ages

How old do the members tend to be? I think you should include that, cuz that's why I came to the page. :P 68.171.240.254 20:48, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

14-15. Hitomi was about to make 16 when she joined and Koharu was 14 1/2. The youngest at that.

[edit] TWO NEW GIRLS

Who are the newest members? There's a rumor on Myspace that lists Hiroko Morinaga, 19 and Emily, 15 as the newest members. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.185.125.101 (talk • contribs) .

it goes like this:

Round 1 - Open Audition

Round 2 - Individually Taped

Round 3 - Go to one of three major locations (Osaka, Tokyo, Nagoya?)

Next will be round 4...the finalists go for a final audition —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.98.134.172 (talk • contribs) .

My bad, I was going based on my relaible source who's connected to Tsunuku —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.185.125.101 (talk • contribs) .

Why is it 3 rounds? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.185.125.101 (talk • contribs) .

They are announcing it December 10th. I know for a fact one name is the name i mentioned earlier.74.195.3.11 20:21, 7 December 2006 (UTC)