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[edit] Please, someone add some real information!
I came to the Mizoram page hoping to find some real information about Mizoram, but found the page dominated by one paragraph about the Shinling with no indication that this might be of any real import to understanding the state. When I came to this page to see what was going on there is a discussion about the %ages of the subtribes and a spat about the seperatist flag.
While these things are all of undoubted value to the contributors will one of these, or another interested party, please add something about the history, values, government, culture etc of Mizoram, so that an outsider like me can find out real information about the state and its people.
Thankyou.
[edit] Help Correct the percentage of Hmar population in Mizoram
The percentage of Hmar population in Mizoram (which stands at 26%) as mentioned in this page is not correct. I hope someone will contribute to make this corrective measure. So, also the population of the Lushais. Their population is much more than 36% percent. Lushais population will be touching almost 65% of the total population.
I also agree that the information is not correct. For example, it is quite well known that the Mizo/Lushai people make up half or more of Mizoram’s population, and not 35.6% as the article states. However, I do not have the correct percentages.
It would be wrong to say that the Lushai/ Lusei (which is a tribe under Mizo. Please note all Mizos are not Lushais) make up more than half of Mizoram's population. If proper counting of the population is done based on the family/clan/sub-tribe name of each tribes (Lusei, Ralte, Lai, Paihte, Hmar) the official Census record would also be proved incorrect as well. One must note that most of the tribes in Mizoram now identify themselves as "Mizo" which makes it difficult to identify which individual belongs to which tribe. There are even complaints and rumours that certain NGOs in Mizoram manipulates the submitted electoral datas and records regarding the surnames/ tribe name.
Yes, I agree on Lushei population, it is less; but for Hmar we may put some reasonble figure not like the one right now. If this much number of people ask for Autonomous district council I don't think Mizoram can resist it ... or is it? Let's wait someone then...
Mizo's as a whole represents all the tribes of Mizoram, i don't see the need for a seperate autonomous district council for HMAR, we don't need another Nagaland here in mizoram where everyone is divided based upon their tribe. I know a lot of Hmar who identify themselves as Mizo and not Hmar, Please don't politicise HMAR for political gains.
[edit] Rule for adding new site URL
Respect who were before you; do not add your site links at the top page. Add at the bottom if the site contains relevant information on Mizoram. Everyone, please remember this rule.
[edit] Shinlung
I added this new subsection based on a single source. But, it's a reliable source - the author is Reader in Modern Jewish Studies at SOAS and Director of the SOAS Centre for Jewish Studies. I feel myself that it's a bit too long - but interesting material, so I hope it can be kept. PiCo 05:35, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
- Certainly interesting, but deserving of its own article. Dominates this page unduly. Hornplease 18:20, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Seperatist's flag
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- I have added Pov check to the "shinlung". Also removed the 'seperatist's' flag.Bharatveer 07:16, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
Pls explain here your reasons for inserting that flag in that section.Since i dont think that flag belongs to this article. I am going to remove it now. Maybe you can insert it after you create another subsection for seperatist history.Bharatveer 09:45, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
- Flag belongs to the article. Explain why you don't think so. Don't push your POV here. Btw, you have already tagged the article with POV Check. So, I don't see any problems. Reverting. Anwar 20:29, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
The flag does not belong to the 'facts' subsection.maybe you should add that map to another subsection that deals with seperatists history.So I am removing the flag again.
My Pov tag was for shinlung subsection. Be civil and there is no need for accusing me of pushing povs.Bharatveer 06:43, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
- I think it would be better if the flag was not included in the article until a proper concensus regarding the matter is reached. Anwar, please discuss your POV here before you include the flag again, and be civil -- thunderboltza.k.a.Deepu_Joseph |TALK 06:57, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
It is again added by somebody else now.Bharatveer 17:55, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Flag must go
No, I'm afraid that the separatist flag is not appropriate to be included here - simply because including a flag, official or separatist is an indication that it represents Mizoram. This is not true here, is it? The flag must be used on an article about Mizo separatists.
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- Additionally, this flag is not of all Mizo separatists, but a particular group. What do we know if other factions accept this flag? So how is it Mizoram's flag at all? Rama's Arrow 15:44, 27 May 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Please observe Netiquette
I'm sick and tired of guys out there who keep deleting important information that were added. And Shinlung is not a theory nor majority of us from Mizoram will neither accept it. I think this must be done by some Shinlung movement enthusiasts. Please stop it. In Mizoram page we just need to have complete information on Mizoram state and Shinlung or Sinlung can have separate page.
Why guys out there keep deleting related links from Mizoram as well? If things will continue like this, I will refer the whole page to the seniors here.
