Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Community

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellany page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was no consensus. - Mailer Diablo 09:04, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Portal:Community

Not a portal, and neither active or maintained. cj | talk 04:40, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

• Delete Either this is redundant with the Wikipedia:Community Portal, or it serves a very vague purpose, inappropriate for portal space. I would also recommend a redirect to WP:CP, but it be cross-namespace, which is frowned upon. Xoloz 15:48, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
• Delete as it's redundant. Plasbar 01:13, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
• Delete, inactive and redundant. - Pureblade | ^Θ 18:01, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
• Keep - This is a Portal for Community-related encyclopedic articles and categories and has nothing to do with the Wikipedia Community Portal. Its construction is slow, but continuous. CQ 18:41, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
• Redirect to Wikipedia:Community Portal, keeping is pointless. MaxSem 11:17, 13 May 2006 (UTC)
• Keep The definition of "portal" that Cyberjunkie links to say that a portal "help readers and/or editors manoeuvre their way through Wikipedia topic areas". I disagree with Cyberjunkie that this page does not meet that definition. While its clearly not complete, I think the Community portal currently provides a useful beginning framework for a new reader in finding different articles on community. This is especially important because the term can be vague. And finally it has nothing to do with WP:CP. WP:CP is specifically about the Wikipedia community whereas the Community Portal is an attempt to look at communities in general from a sociological and practical perspective. Deleting it now would cripple the potential for future growth and development in this broad subject area on wikipedia. mennonot 23:06, 13 May 2006 (UTC)
• Keep Completely different to the Wikipedia Community portal, serves a useful purpose in grouping together articles on this subject. --Black Butterfly 07:51, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
• Comment The portal has been altered since nomination. I happened across it when it appeared as a substandard replica of Wikipedia:Community Portal. Still, I see no reason not to delete it - anything it might cover could be equally done at Portal:Society.--cj | talk 09:04, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

Comment. One good thing about nomination for deletion is that it inspires people to put more work into a page as seems to be the case here.

I disagree with your suggestion that the it covers the same ground as Portal:Society. I think society and community are distinct enough that it is useful to have separate pages. Both the community portal and the society portal explictly differentiate between the two terms. The society portal says "A society is also sometimes defined as an interdependent community, but the sociologist Tonnies sought to draw a contrast between society and community." The Community portal says "Gemeinschaft — often translated as community — refers to groupings based on a feeling of togetherness. Gesellschaft — often translated as society — on the other hand, refers to groups that are sustained by an instrumental goal."

In practical terms, the community portal gives users the opportunity to look at specific examples of communities like the Catholic Worker communities, whereas the society portal looks at broader groupings such as the Tamil people. mennonot 23:25, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.