Talk:Minchinbury, New South Wales
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Note: Do not rely on anything on this page as fact. Some information was collected from several Minchinbury residents as at 26 December 2005.
MINCHINBURY (BRIEF OVERVIEW) - The suburb of Minchinbury is relatively small. It is seen as a fairly expensive area to purchase property compared with many of the surrounding suburbs. Many residents have complained that it deserves its own postcode due to its uniqueness in being an enclosed estate and an area where houses are in demand for both purchasing and renting. The general history of Minchinbury centers around the old vineyards belonging to Penfolds wines many years ago. The vineyards have long since been removed and houses on large blocks of land up to 900 sq/m were developed. Subsequently Minchinbury has gained a reputation for having some spectatular looking properties for a western Sydney suburb. At the entrance of Minchinbury you will find a large model plane resembling a small "Cesna" which is the offical suburb "mascot" or "landmark". The history of this plane has many stories, the most prominent being that a family inside the plane was killed in Minchinbury many years ago. Sources report the plane was errected by Penfolds Wines themselves. Again the reasons behind the erection of the plane are numerous but one states that it was for the purposes of combining some of the estate's history with an eye-catching slogan and landmark for the purposes of promoting the vineyards when they were in operation.
MINCHINBURY (MORE DETAILED HISTORY) - William Minchin was the Principal Superintendent of Police and Treasurer of the Police Fund in the colony. He was granted 1,000 acres of land in the area named after him and now known as Minchinbury. After the death of William in 1821, the property passed to his only daughter Maria Matilda. In 1838, Maria Matilda and her family were lost at sea, leaving no descendents of William Minchin alive.
Dr. Charles McKay purchased the property in 1859 and developed it into vineyards and cellars. Over the next 2 decades, Dr. McKay bought many neighbouring properties and in 1881, he put all of his land up for auction. At this time, the land did not sell and it wasn't until 1895 that James Angus bought all of McKay's properties.
Penfolds Pty. Ltd. purchased the winery and vineyards in 1912. Most of the existing buildings at the winery were probably added while under the ownership of Penfolds. In 1898, during Angus' winemaking years, the vineyards suffered a viral disease that destroyed the vines. New vines were planted and grew until 1962 when soil erosion made them useless. New vineyards were established on other properties around the area to supply the fruit for the winery.
Minchinbury Winery became famous for its champagne. Penfolds stopped operations at the winery in 1978.
MINCHINBURY (COMMUNITY WEB SITE AND FORUM) - The suburb has a close-knit group of property owners who run a local non-profit community web site and forum for all the Minchinbury residents to discuss community issues and problems and to build a better suburb for everyone. It is located at http://www.myminchinbury.com.
SOURCES
1. Blacktown City Council web site - www.http://www.blacktown.nsw.gov.au/our-city/history/the-landmarks/minchinbury-winery.cfm.
2. Resident - Name Not Disclosed - Minchinbury, New South Wales - See User.
--Nigel J Van Houten 14:43, 26 September 2005 (UTC)
[edit] my contributions
Sorry but in accordance with be bold this has been a draft for a very long time. What was on the main article as of today did not reflect that Minchinbury is CURRENTLY a residential suburb. There were no mentions on the article itself regarding the landmarks - for suburbs in Blacktown it is unusual that there are any landmarks which a casual person would notice, Minchinbury has TWO. A valuable contribution would be to upload photos of the two landmarks onto the commons. It's a shame you don't have the full story regarding the plane - I am pretty sure it is a jet trainer not a cesna? BTW - this is an encyclopedia - record facts. If you are reporting "folkore" regarding the origin of the plane (memorial?) note it in the article as folklore / urban legend / whatever. I wickified your first source and copied it to the references section.
NB: the original text is a direct copyvio from the source "Minchinbury History Article on Blacktown City Council web site"... to be redone in the next couple of weeks Garrie 04:06, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
[edit] I've been very busy
Hi Garrie. I've been very busy with work/study/Call of Duty 2 (lol) and therefore have not had much time for Wikiwork other than pouring over article after article in an attempt to quench my insatiable thirst for information. Wiki is great for that as you probably will agree. This discussion page is actually nothing more than my thoughts falling onto it one evening and I never intended on it to be used for anything other than possibly a slice of info on Minchinbury. I was reluctant to put anything in there that did not directly follow Wik's policies (which by the way I'm still learning). I've taken the time over the past few days to brush up on the pillars, copyright and some tutorials. I understand you are from Emerton. :) Great! A stone's throw from me. :) Nigel J Van Houten
[edit] Finally had some time to go over this
The suburb has significant commercial/industrial zones that are growing. I've amended the first paragraph to reflect this whereas previously it mentioned only the small shopping centre and residential. Still reviewing. Nigel J Van Houten