User talk:Mike Peel

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thanks for any comments and editing you have done to my article. Senators 5:27pm, 05 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Your posting of a {{physics|class=|importance=}} tag

Mike, you or your robot just posted a {{physics|class=|importance=}} tag on the Talk page of the Standard conditions for temperature and pressure article which is completely incomprehensible! It asks readers to rate the article and has a post "here" link. When one presses that link, one is sent to a blank comment page with absolutely no instructions on how or where to provide one's rating. If you are going to go around posting this tag, then you should also post detailed, explicit instructions on how we can rate the article and where to do so. Just referring us to Wikipedia articles or FAQ defining certain ratings is not enough. You must tell us how and where to rate the specific Standard conditions for temperature and pressure article.

If you don't provide that information, then I will be sorely tempted to just delete your tag. - mbeychok 03:52, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

Hello. Sorry for the confusion. The linked-to page is for leaving comments; you rate the article by editing the talk page of the article and changing the template to something like {{physics|class=B|importance=high}}. I've refined the text to make this a little clearer, and I'll put together a How-To guide for the template this evening. Thanks. Mike Peel 08:39, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for your response. But if I change the template to Class A, Importance High, then how does someone else rate the article? Does that someone else merely overwrite my rating? That means the rating will always represent the opinion of only one person. That's rather meaningless. isn't it? - mbeychok 16:36, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

You're right that they are changed by overwriting the old rating. I don't expect that the ratings will be that controversial, though, so once rated they should only be changed when the article's improved enough to need to be changed. Technically, I don't think there's much that can be done to allow multiple people to rate the article, although the history of the talk page will preserve the history of ratings. Note that the comments don't need to be overwritten. The ratings are intended only to serve as a guide, though, and I'd say that the more important parts of the template for work done on the article are the links to WP:Phys and the physics portal (which I think everyone should know that they exist, and can be asked to help on specific things), as well as the comments that are left. From an admin side, the ratings allow the easy selection of the "best" WP articles, which can then be included in WP1.0 - which I believe was the original motivation behind this type of template. Mike Peel 17:34, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

A how-to guide now exists at Template:Physics/usage. Mike Peel 19:14, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

I just read your how-to guide and it is very good. I just wish that all templates would include similar guides ... many of them have no guidance of any kind.

However, the actual template tag still does'nt tell readers where to find the how-to guide and a great many people don't know how to find the templates much less find their usage guidance. The actual template tag should include an explicit link to the how-to guide. - mbeychok 20:49, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

You're right. I meant to do that, but then got distracted. It's now been added. Mike Peel 20:56, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

Mike, you finally got it all corrected and much more helpful! Now if you could only find some high-level administrator or computer guru who could do the same type of corrections with all the dozens of other incomprehensible templates and there truly are dozens of them that need it. Regards and Happy Thanksgiving, - mbeychok 22:58, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

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