Talk:Mictlan

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[edit] Heaven?

I'm not sure that Mictlan can really be characterised with the concept of 'heaven', as the recently added {heaven} template would seem to imply. For a start, it is envisioned as an Underworld layer, and (in a number of pre-columbian Nahuatl-speaking peoples' traditions) one of 13 such layers (counting the Earthly layer). True enough, it was regarded as the ultimate destination in the afterlife for the majority of folks- but in most Mesoamerican traditions the manner in which one lived one's life did not determine what happened after death (ie no moral or otherwise goodly - or bad - behaviour influenced one's fate).

Just what that template is supposed to identify or mean by 'heaven' is unclear to me, & it also has links to concepts of Afterlife and Underworld as well, to confuse matters.

Would be happen to listen to the reasoning behind this template and Mictlan's inclusion on it, but as things stand I think it should be removed (for this article).--cjllw | TALK 02:41, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks Bwithh for removing that template, whatever the purpose of that template I don't see that it could be applied to pre-Columbian Mesoamerican beliefs.--cjllw | TALK 23:41, 30 July 2006 (UTC)