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The Jigsaw Man The link to "The Jigsow Man" in the Filmography points to a short science fiction story by Larry Niven rather than to a page on the (dreadful) movie starring Michael Caine and Lawrence Olivier.


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[edit] Deleted filmography

I still don't get it. Why would anyone want to delete information that is already there and that has been checked and double-checked? Why is a bare minimum filmography more encyclopaedic than an annotated one? --KF 14:08, 4 Oct 2003 (UTC)

As far as I am concerned, I am not aware of having deleted information.
Chris K 15:01, 4 Oct 2003 (UTC)
Well, during your first edit today you removed from the list below everything except film title and year. I am just wondering why. For uniformity's sake? Because you think it's irrelevant? I think that as long as we don't have a separate entry on, say, Half Moon Street it might be interesting for users to learn a bit more than just the absolute minimum. I also believe that cross references is what a good encyclopaedia should be all about.

[edit] Selected filmography

(the IMDb lists 131 films)

KF 20:12, 4 Oct 2003 (UTC)

Sorry, KF,

I did not remember that I deleted the comments in Michael Caine's "Selected filmography". I thought it was another actor's article where I did that, as I am working on several actors at a time. Again, I deleted it for uniformity. Ich finde, diese Kommentare gehören in die Artikel der jeweiligen Filme, aber nicht in die Liste, wie sie selbst sagen. Und so wird es auch im allgemeinen in den "Listen" gemacht, wo nur Jahreszahl(en) erscheinen. Um einheitlich zu bleiben, würde ich auch keine weiteren Kommentare bei den Filmen hinzufügen über die es noch keinen Artikel gibt. In Ihrer Liste von Filmen haben ja die meisten schon einen Artikel, und dennoch stehen Kommentare bei etlichen dieser Filme. In any case, this is a team work, and you are not going to have any problem with me. If you want to add again the comments, I will certainly respect it. However, please, leave the list sorted as it is now, from the most recent films down to the oldest, as it is the rule in Wikipedia.

Chris K 08:01, 5 Oct 2003 (UTC)

I haven't changed anything and I'm not going to. Basically I think I don't care about uniformity because it will never be achieved: Just look at the articles on (a random list) Audrey Hepburn, Gary Cooper, Marilyn Monroe, Charlie Chaplin or Mia Farrow. Looks like a lot of work (for you?). All the best, KF 10:15, 5 Oct 2003 (UTC)

I think he was born in Bermondsey (which isn't really East End of London) Secretlondon 13:35, Feb 24, 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Accent

Is his accent really cockney? It sounds more SE London to me (although very nasal), which would fit in more with being born in Rotherhithe and brought up in Camberwell (both of which are South of the River, although you might just be able to hear Bow Bells from Rotherhithe if you listen very closely...)


I think that his accent has changed a bit, not by much though. I think he is rather speaking with an Estuary English accent, which is a midway between RP and Cockney

Tjúlla 13:28, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Gypsy Roots

I have heard that Michael Caine is a Gypsy / Romanichal - any thoughts? The article for Bob Hoskins does mention his Roma heritage so I personally think it would be useful here ref: http://www.imninalu.net/famousGypsies.htm 81.77.78.217 18:16, 16 January 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Lost Sibling

"Some time after his mother died, Caine and his younger brother learned they had an elder half-brother, named David. He suffered from severe epilepsy and had been kept in hospital his entire life. Although their mother regularly visited her first son in hospital, even her husband did not know the child existed."

I note that the film 'Last Orders' contains a sub-plot which is not dissimilar to this, where Caine's character is father to a disabled child who is disowned by all but her mother; is this coincidental or was Caine interested in the role for this reason, perhaps? Ndaisley 15:32, 25 June 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Korea & time in army

Why is there nothing about this? In his autobiography it gives some details of this and some important information about the development of a new drug used to treat malaria with which 'Caine' was treated. (Sasquatchuk 00:34, 24 September 2006 (UTC))

[edit] "Not a lot of people know that"

Since Peter Sellers died in 1980, I find it unlikely that he quoted a line from a 1983 movie in order to impersonate Michael Caine.-DrGeoduck 22:30, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

It was the other part that was wrong. I don't know if Caine actually said the line in Educating Rita, but the phrase pre-dates the film. I remember seeing Sellers on Parkinson doing this impression and explaining the bit about the answer machine. JW 20:54, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Strange choices for Filmography

So, such classics as Miss Congeniality and Austin Powers in Goldmember are included in his "main filmography", but The Quiet American (2002 film) isn't included, even though Caine received a best actor Oscar nomination for it. Seems odd. Psychonaut3000 03:41, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

The whole idea of a "main filmography" seems like a bad idea. These templates have started appearing on other actor articles. I've edited a couple to make them a bit more representative, but it's still a matter of opinion what goes in and what doesn't. JW 14:52, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
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