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[edit] Principal cities

I changed the list of 'principal cities' in the template to confrom to the OMB definition given in Metropolitan and micropolitan statistical areas defined by the Office of Management and Budget, December 2005. Any other list of 'principal cities' would amount to original research. -- Donald Albury^(Talk) 01:25, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

Ok, thank you. -- Arigont

What I take "METROPOLITAN AND MICROPOLITAN STATISTICAL AREAS AND PRINCIPAL CITIES" to mean is that there are statistical areas along with cities on the list. It doesn't mean that everything on the list is a city. It is improper to be referring to Kendall as a city; its own wiki article states that it is a CDP. Can the template be changed so that instead of saying "principle cities" it says principal cities & population areas (or something to that effect)?

Beyond the page at [1], the page at [2] makes it clear that Kendall is listed as a Principal City. In fact, the Metropolitan Division corresponding to Miami-Dade County is named Miami-Miami Beach-Kendall, FL Metropolitan Division, and only Principal Cities are used in statistical unit names. The Census Bureau has specific criteria for naming Principal Cities.[3] It appears that Kendall meets those criteria, but Hialeah doesn't. The definition of 'City' being used by the Census Bureau means a large urban area, and apparantly does require corporate status. Per WP:NOR and WP:V, we can only use material from reliable sources, and cannot create our own criteria for something like 'Principal City'. -- Donald Albury 02:41, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

Odd that Hialeah isn't included, being that it's the 5th largest city in the state. I guess we can't argue with all those Ivy League scholars working at the Census Bureau though.

I think it has to do with there being more people leaving Hialeah to go to jobs in other cities than there are people coming from other cities to Hialeah to go to jobs; in other words, Hialeah may be classified as a 'bedroom community'. I haven't found a copy of the rules, but I know the Census Bureau counts commuters as part of the process for defining statistical areas. -- Donald Albury 19:35, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

I see - Marc Averette 00:39, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

Found the definition of 'Principal City', at [4]:

A principal city is defined in relation to a CBSA rather than an MSA. The principal city (or cities) of a CBSA includes: (A) The largest incorporated place in the CBSA with a Census 2000 population of at least 10,000 or, if no such place exists, the largest incorporated place or census designated place in the CBSA; (B) any additional incorporated place or census designated place with a Census 2000 population of at least 250,000 or in which 100,000 or more persons work; (C) any additional incorporated place or census designated place with a Census 2000 population of at least 50,000, but less than 250,000, and in which the number of jobs meets or exceeds the number of employed residents; and (D) any additional incorporated place or census designated place with a Census 2000 population of at least 10,000, but less than 50,000, and one-third the population size of the largest place, and in which the number of jobs meets or exceeds the number of employed residents (65 FR 82236).

-- Donald Albury 12:20, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Ft.

Okay, who put this offense to mankind on this template? Ft. is not a word!!!! Bastiq▼e ^demandez 20:32, 21 November 2006 (UTC)