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[edit] Image:Nepenthes hamata.jpg listed for deletion
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Bah. I dislike using such a religious symbol for scientific articles. But it seems I'm in the very small minority. Boo. - UtherSRG (talk) 17:20, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
[edit] the Nepenthes footer
90% of the wikipedia footers use class="toccolours" which define a "standard" look. The exceptions are either older footers from before that class was introduced that have not been updated (say, {{Oceania}}) or those using the new collapsible format. For various examples of footers with 5px (all using toccolours), see {{Depeche Mode}}, {{Mammals}}, {{Chicano/Mexican-American}} or {{AsianCurrencies}}. It's really the MediaWiki.css that should be updated. I have to see to that. Circeus 00:18, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
- See also Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)#Harmonizing_the_new_collapsible_footers_with_class.3D.22toccolours.22. Circeus 00:26, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Nepenthes rajah/B. H. Danser's Monograph: Nepenthes rajah
Since you've said this article contains more info than the main article, you should make it more intelligible and subsequently merge it with the main article, because usually, subpages are frowned upon by the Wikipedia community. I'll only wait for a few more days before nominating it for WP:AFD.--May the Force be with you! Shreshth91($ |-| ŗ 3 $ |-| ţ |-|) 13:45, 9 April 2006 (UTC)
- Mgiganteus1, hello. Do you know anything about the copyright status of [1], where the text of Nepenthes rajah/B. H. Danser's Monograph: Nepenthes rajah seems to come from? I noticed the same text is being considered for deletion from Wikiquote as a copyright violation, so I thought I'd ask. -GTBacchus(talk) 01:29, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Nepenthes rajah
Hello Mgiganteus1, I just wanted to tell you that I appreciate your work on the article on N. rajah very much and will translate it (though not 1:1) into the German Wikipedia. All the best, Denisoliver 23:48, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
Well, I have finished this work. If you like to have a look: de:Nepenthes rajah. Denisoliver 08:25, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
[edit] WikiProject: Carnivorous Plants
Hi Mgiganteus1,
First of all, I applaud your amazing and tireless effort so far on various Nepenthes pages, especially N. rajah! I noticed that you have found the Carnivorous Plant Wikiproject page, and added a note about the new Nepenthes pages. Thanks! Feel free also to add your name under participants (not a formal commitment, but it allows others to see who is involved) if you would like. Also, if you want to form some kind of a subproject section outlining progress and methods for the Nepenthes pages so that others wanting to get involved know what's going on, feel free to do so! Cheers, NoahElhardt 23:49, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
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I know how tiresome and tedious making so many edits is, so I award you The Working Man's Barnstar!-TheAlphaWolf 02:35, 24 April 2006 (UTC) |
People have already expressed it, but I figured I'd award you a barnstar for your insanity :). I can't think of anyone who deserves it more. (I don't know how to change the size of the banner :P --TheAlphaWolf 02:35, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
- What a pleasant surprise. Thank you very much! :) Mgiganteus1 02:41, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
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[edit] unblock request
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[edit] WikiProject Dinosaurs
Hi Mgiganteus, I noticed you're not signed on for Wikipedia:WikiProject_Dinosaurs, but your list of contributions clearly indicates you've worked on quite a few dinosaur articles. Since your work is good, I'm officially inviting you to join our small yet meager team.--Firsfron 05:06, 22 May 2006 (UTC) :)
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- Awesome. Welcome to the team. If you've added the Project page to your watchlist, you'll easily be able to tell when new comments are left there, or on its talk page. We frequently discuss issues like sources that contradict each other, new info, new genera, etc... And you can see we have plenty of projects to be completed. Or you can just work independently, of course. Again, welcome. :) --Firsfron 16:20, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
[edit] About Image:Regiae_distribution.svg
Thanks for the support. I made that map this night after a request posted in the French speaking Atelier graphique for a new and readable map. I admit that, like I wrote it in the summary of the map page, without your location pictures of Borneo, it would have been almost impossible for me to complete that map : some data on the original one were totally undecipherable ! These ones gave me also the occasion to complete and correct this general map. So : thank you too ! Greats. Sting-fr 20:50, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Categories
Hi, I noticed your categorizing of Nepenthes. If you read the guidelines on categorization you will notice that a category should not be too small or too big. It should hold just so many items that it easy to see the whole category at a glance. Certainly a category should not exceed 200 items except in very special cases. So whenever a category starts approaching 200 it is time to make a subcategory and start moving items into the subcategory. Also, a basic guideline is that one and the same item should not be in a category and in a subcategory of that category: it should only be in the subcategory (except in special cases). There is no point whatsoever in having a Nepenthes species in both Caryophyllales and in the subcategory Nepepentaceae: everything in that is in subcategory Nepenthaceae can be found from the main category. Otherwise all 400.000 plant species would end up in category flowering plants and nobody could find anything.
The same goes for carnivorous plants. As there are no species of Nepenthes that are not carnivorous, it is a lot easier for the user to have everything on Nepenthes in this one category Nepenthaceae which is then put into the category carnivorous plants. Brya 13:52, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Nepenthes rajah
You should go ahead and nominate it for FA because that article is amazing. --SeizureDog 15:56, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
[edit] ATP number 1
Hi, In tabular information, which is not read linearly like normal articles, it is standard to wikilink every occurrence of a player's name, country, etc. It is also preferable to use the standard HTML table headings instead of unclosed <b> tags. As for bolding entries of 100 or more weeks at #1, the standard is to bold only entries which set a record, which means only one should be bold. The underlined counts of total number of weeks a player spent at #1 is just repetition of information in the column, and probably belong in a separate table. eae 18:42, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Your article, 3D Construction Kit, was selected for DYK!
(co credit with S0ulfire84) Thanks for your contributions! ++Lar: t/c 12:06, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
[edit] 3D Construction Kit
Hi,
why did you remove the <br clear="all"/> before the image gallery? Without it, the left-aligned screenshot of the church overlaps with the gallery in some browser/resolution combinations (notably Firefox), i.e. the Spectrum screenshot is covered by the church picture.--Eloquence* 09:16, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
An alternative way to deal with the problem is to right-align the image, though that may also cause display issues on systems with low resolutions. Or you could just put all images inside the gallery.--Eloquence* 09:46, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Cyatheaceae
Hi Mgiganteus1 - I removed the date, as dates are not included in plant author citations; they are only given in animal author citations - MPF 14:06, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
[edit] You helped choose this week's WP:AID winner
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[edit] New collaboration
Hello Mgiganteus1,
It would be great, if you would join us after you gave the article a good start recently and make it of FA-quality now. Denisoliver 09:00, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Squid
Sorry about mantle / mntle. My finger must have slipped (and my attention wavered) when I was compressing the link while disambigging arms. Colonies Chris 14:07, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Please Use Edit Summaries
[edit] Please use Infobox Mountain template
Hi. Please use {{Infobox Mountain}} rather than the deprecated mtnbox templates. We are in the process of converting all articles using the old templates to the new one. If you use the old ones, someone will later have to convert them. Thanks. RedWolf 21:59, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Your move of Macroglossum st
Hello, Mgiganteus1, thank you for trying to move Macroglossum st to its proper location. Next time, if you want to change the title of an article, please use the "move" tab at the top of the screen. If you move a page by copying the text to a new article, the edit history of the article is left behind at the old location. Eugène van der Pijll 21:00, 2 September 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Animalia
Hello! Could you please provide any source for the taxobox in the article Animal, especially for the subregnum Agnotozoa? Thanks very much. --Eleassar my talk 13:34, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Starting a sentence with Because
It is perfectly acceptable to start a sentence with 'Because' as long as the clause is dependent on a complete thought in the rest of the sentence. It would not be a complete sentence to have "Why is editing disabled?" Because of vandalism., but it is a complete sentence to say Because of vandalism, editing is disabled. for the same reason it is acceptable to have "I went to a restaurant because I was hungry" but not "I went to a restaurant. Because I was hungry." —Centrx→talk • 20:59, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Cyathea
Hi Mgiganteus1 - superb set of articles you've got going here! As there's so many of them, I've started to separate them out from Category:Pteridophyta into a new subcategory Category:Cyatheaceae to get Category:Pteridophyta below 200 listings. One other point; they are of course plants, not animals, so the author citations do not have dates, and should follow the standard botanical author abbreviations; these can be looked up at the IPNI author query page, or the List of botanists by author abbreviation (not complete, but most major authors listed). Can you check over to see that the authors do follow the standard abbreviations, please! - Thanks, MPF 19:41, 23 September 2006 (UTC)
- On dates, I don't know, but it is standard practice not to include them (unless giving a full citation including the place of publication, in which case the date is given too). Maybe there is a case to be made for adding full citations, but it has never been called for at WP:PLANTS. Another one - I just got to Cyathea amintae; this appears to be a synonym of Cyathea dryopteroides (see e.g. [2]), unless there has been any recent change. Maybe it should be moved to that name? - MPF 19:53, 23 September 2006 (UTC)
- OK, I can leave the dates if you want them (even though it makes them look like zoological citations!) - MPF 20:01, 23 September 2006 (UTC)
- "Btw, when I use a mdash in the author citation, it is not because I do not know the author, but because the species has never been placed in the genus Cyathea in a published source AFAIK (it's been placed in one of its syonyms). Is there a different way I could indicate this?" - Sorry, there isn't. This actually makes the page in breach of Wikipedia:No original research as you're in effect trying to publish the new combination Cyathea amintae(Conant) Mgiganteus (invalidly, as the ICBN does not permit the valid publication of names electronically). If the combination hasn't been formally published anywhere, then I'm afraid we definitely can't use it in wikipedia. Sorry! - MPF 20:32, 23 September 2006 (UTC)
- My thought would be to follow the GRIN cit above and include it in Cyathea dryopteroides until it does get formally published. Also, if you know the authors of that Tree Ferns book, contact them and ask them what the situation is on whether the new combination is published yet (If they consider it a distinct species, I'd not be surprised if they have it in press or recently in print in a botanical journal somewhere) - MPF 20:54, 23 September 2006 (UTC)
- Tricky one! If one is to follow Braggins & Large scrupulously, then it will have to wait until the nomenclatural problems are sorted elsewhere in print. Ideally the wiki articles should mention/discuss other taxonomic opinions as well, such as whichever sources GRIN cite and follow; again, I'd think it might be better to follow this in these cases to avoid the difficulties. - MPF 21:09, 23 September 2006 (UTC)
- My thought would be to follow the GRIN cit above and include it in Cyathea dryopteroides until it does get formally published. Also, if you know the authors of that Tree Ferns book, contact them and ask them what the situation is on whether the new combination is published yet (If they consider it a distinct species, I'd not be surprised if they have it in press or recently in print in a botanical journal somewhere) - MPF 20:54, 23 September 2006 (UTC)
- "Btw, when I use a mdash in the author citation, it is not because I do not know the author, but because the species has never been placed in the genus Cyathea in a published source AFAIK (it's been placed in one of its syonyms). Is there a different way I could indicate this?" - Sorry, there isn't. This actually makes the page in breach of Wikipedia:No original research as you're in effect trying to publish the new combination Cyathea amintae(Conant) Mgiganteus (invalidly, as the ICBN does not permit the valid publication of names electronically). If the combination hasn't been formally published anywhere, then I'm afraid we definitely can't use it in wikipedia. Sorry! - MPF 20:32, 23 September 2006 (UTC)
- OK, I can leave the dates if you want them (even though it makes them look like zoological citations!) - MPF 20:01, 23 September 2006 (UTC)
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[edit] Giant Pacific Octopus
Giant pacific octopus is considered to be the largest octopus on the planet, I've had to revert this 3 times now. Please stop reverting it back, the seven armed octopus is not larger. Giant Pacific Octopus have reached 600 pounds, with 23foot arm to arm length. I put a half a dozen links on the seven armed octopus talk page, all comfirming that the Giant Pacific Octopus is the largest octopus. Some are rando websites, some are aquariums and museums. thank you TotallyTempo 03:25, 12 October 2006 (UTC) I do not believe links from aquariums and museums are questionable,I believe these instituions do use scientific data and scientists and records to keep trak of such things. However for now I will stop reverting and will leave the text that you wrote with token support to my questionable claims. What kind of source would you find to be more appropriate to confim my so called hypothesis, I have a half dozen references to prove me I believe that this is sufficent proof. TotallyTempo 20:29, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
Ok, I found a link from 2003, by a doctor at an edu website claiming a giant pacific Octopus is the largest however it does not have the direct comparison, I will post it here anyways http://www.cephbase.utmb.edu/TCP/faq/TCPfaq2b.cfm?ID=1 however I do like the new introduction to the giant pacific octopus, claiming that there are questionable claims about huge octopuses (octopi)?, I personally cannot imagine an octopus weighing 600 lbs, that's like sunfish sized. If this link does not satisfy you I say we call a truce and leave the introduction wording as you currently put it. Stating that the seven arm octopus is considered by some scientists to be the largest octopus, however there are disputed claims of much larger Giant Pacific Octopus's being found. I'm paraphrasing but you get my point that I am in favour of the new version of the article. Does this seem reasonable to you? TotallyTempo 20:59, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
Finally before I let you go in peace I think I should post our discussions on the discussion page of the giant pacific octopus, since bfore this 2002 discovery of the seven armed octopus it was considered the largest and therefore someone else could come along with the same mindset as me thinking that the giant pacific octopus is indeed the biggest octopus and reverting the article. If you do not want me to post our discussions on the talk page please let me know.
[edit] St. Augustine Monster and Cryptozoology
Hey, just wanted to bring up your removal of the WP:PARA project template. I've went ahead and put it back, simply because Cryptozoology is one of the topics currently covered by our project. However, if there was enough interest, we might be able to create a Cryptozoology Task Force within the project (in otherwords, a mini-Wikiproject that is simply an extension of the main project. Until then, we are the ones taking care of the subject. --InShaneee 18:41, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
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[edit] Stegosaurus
Hi Mgiganteus!
I'm planning to send Stegosaurus to Featured Article candidacy. The article failed its first nomination, but user:Casliber and I have been hard at work fixing stuff. As you're listed as a member of Wikipedia: WikiProject Dinosaurs, I figured I'd drop you a line and see if there was anything you thought should be added/removed/cited on the article before it is sent to FAC. We definitely want it to pass! :)
(Feel free to make any edits on the article itself, comment on the talk page, or leave a note on my talk page). Thanks for your time, Firsfron of Ronchester 19:38, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
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[edit] Alien vs. Predator
Although it is written on the covers as Aliens versus Predator it is known officially as "Aliens vs. Predator" [3]. Equally it is "Superman vs. Aliens" [4] - it was the second installment that was Superman/Aliens and so the first name gets precedent Also it is "Green Lantern vs. Aliens" [5] as my note on the entry's talk page says. So could you revert the changes you've just made? Well most of them - it does seem to be "Batman versus Predator" [6] (Emperor 18:27, 4 November 2006 (UTC))
- As I've said somewhere else it appears to be "versus" on the cover as it longe and provides balance (it seems to be a graphic design decision). Dark Horse's catalogue has to be considered the definitive source for the naming. The naming does change (as with Superman vs. Aliens and Superman/Aliens) but that doesn't mean that the database is somehow wrong and doesn't mean we can just go and call them whatever we like. (Emperor 19:43, 4 November 2006 (UTC))
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[edit] Nepenthes!!
hi,
just wanted to tell you i was stunned when i stumbled over the Nepenthes pages you created. I'm currently working on spiders, and found them via Misumenops nepenthicola. It's truly great to see that one person takes it on himself to do one topic in completeness :) --Sarefo 23:00, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
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[edit] Red Rain in Kerala
Ey Up (that's a Yorkshire alternative to the ubiquity of 'Hi'),
I agree with your recent reversion, changing 'aluminum' back to 'aluminium', which I presume is appropriate in Indian English.
In the CESS paper, elemental analysis of the red raindust found 321 ppm Ti (listed under 'Trace Elements'), which seems unusual for biological material. Also they do not mention Cl or F in either of their tables of results of elemental analysis. (Louis & Kumar's graph of the x-ray spectrum, Fig. 14 in their paper 0601022 shows both, though only Cl is included in the list of elements in Table 1.) I'm not sure how unusual the Ti content is; nor whether it would be appropriate to include mention of this and/or the lack of information abour Cl and F in the section about the CESS report. On the one hand it would make the piece more factually accurate. On the other it would seem likely to give rise to yet more 'speculative' nonsense. I'd be interested in your comments when you have a few moments to spare. Thanks. Davy p 00:56, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
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[edit] Weakly symmetric matter
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