Talk:Meyer Lansky
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[edit] Inconsistancy
The statement "Around this period, Lansky ordered the execution of his longtime associate Siegel for stealing from the syndicate." is inconsistant with the paragraph:
"Siegel's projects in Las Vegas were failing miserably and all mafia bosses, Lansky included, were summoned to a secret meeting in Havana. While everyone else wanted Siegel killed, Lansky begged for a second chance for his friend. He was able to persuade the bosses to give Siegel a second chance, but Siegel's casino kept on losing money and a second meeting was called. This time the casino was able to turn in a small profit during the month of their second meeting, and that, together with Lansky's pleading and Luciano's hopes their old friend could still do good in Vegas, convinced them to give Siegel a third chance. That small profit turned out to be only a small hurrah, and, leading to a third meeting in Cuba. Despite Lansky's insistence they give Siegel another chance, he was killed in 1947."
24.254.232.33 04:43, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
- Agreed, there is something wrong here. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 207.127.128.2 (talk • contribs).
[edit] Edit
This line:
- Meyer Lansky is also mentioned in Raekwon's "Glaciers of Ice" from the album "Only Built 4 Cuban Linx".
Means nothing to the article. I am deleting it. If someone can re insert it with some sort of reason or meaning for being mentioned, put it back in. I also put headers on this page to clear the separate topics.
[edit] Criticism
This page exemplifys Wikishitty's total lack of intregrity as this article is without basis Mr. Lansky was never convicted of anything, no millions were ever found and I believe it would be good if Wikistupidity were sued destroyed and castrated for basing it articles of HOLLYWOOD THRILLER BS. In fact as Mr. Lansky is Jewish I consider these attacks on him as anti-semiticly based not that WikiSTUPIDITY CARES~~ —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Andrew Zito (talk • contribs).
Dear Sir or Madam: If you would please refrain form the profanity and just simply state, with some sort of proof, what you are saying, someone may be willing to speak with you. Please clearly and rationally expand on your issue with the article. Thanks. L.A.F.
- Ahhh the eternal persecution complex of Jews today. Lansky was a vey rich gangster, I think he and Gambino were the only 2 American gangsters to die of old age. Get over it - he was JEWISH and he was a BAD GUY. They are not mutually exclusive occurances. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 82.35.34.24 (talk • contribs).
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- Where's your proof that it's more than a coincidence and that being Jewish and a Bad Guy is linked? Every ethnicity has their heroes and criminals idiot.--Exander 07:14, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Question
I'm not very well educated on this issue, but I have noticed an inconsistancy between what's on this page and what's on the Lucky Luciano page. Here it mentions that Meyer only met "Bugsie" in 1920 and on Lucky's page it says something about the Five Points Gang being formed before 1916. My only knowledge on the subjects comes from a movie I saw, Mobsters, in which Meyer and Bugsie were best friends by 1917 (the year in which the first scene in the movie is set), and met Lucky and Frank Costello that same year. I just thought I'd bring this to everyone's attention so somebody Who's well informed on the issue could fix it up. :) -Lara
[edit] Ethnicity?
Guys.... It says that lansky was a russian jew but I've read in crime books that his parents were polish... —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 203.26.24.218 (talk • contribs).
During the time Lansky's family would have been there Poland was occupied by Russia, ethnically they were Polish, but legally they would be Russian. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 64.12.116.197 (talk • contribs).
[edit] Meyer Lansky - Truly crucial to the Italian - American mafia
Meyer Lansky and Charles Luciano are the founders of the La Cosa Nostra. Luciano was the brawn and Lansky was the brain. If it were not for Lansky, The Italian - American mafia as we knew it would not have become what it was, without his crucial and definitely structuring influence. This man is not given the full credit he deserves. Without Lansky, Luciano would have definitely not risen to the heigth where he was, and would have definitely not amassed the fortune he had, before going to prison and after being deported to Italy. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.188.186.214 (talk • contribs).
- No i'm calling BS on you here my friend. La Cosa Nostra is a Sicilian organisation, not a Jewish one. It originated around Palermo in the 19th century, check the Mafia article out to learn more. The Sicilian Mafia is infinitely more powerful, and wealthier than its American offshoot organisation, which today is a shadow of its former self. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 82.35.34.24 (talk • contribs).
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- REFERRING TO THE FIRST PARAGRAPH ABOVE: Who the hell writes this shit - fourteen year old boys? I'm glad it gets filtered out through moderation before it actually gets published! The spelling mistakes are atrocious. I mean, open a fuckin' dictionary before you put your little booger picking fingers to the keys. The word is spelled HEIGHT AND PRONOUNCED "HITE", NOT HEIGTH AND NOT PRONOUNCED "HEITH", as many ignoramuses are fond of proliferating these illiterate days.
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- In closing, PLEASE, HAVE SOME INTEGRITY HERE BOYS AND GIRLS: POLICE YOURSELVES, READ A FUCKIN' BOOK OR TWO (THE ENGLISH DICTIONARY WOULD HELP, WHILE WRITING AND USING ENGLISH!) AND PLEASE, OH PLEASE DON'T RUIN THIS GREAT SITE BY DISSEMINATING/PERPETUATING IGNORANCE!
[edit] Lansky was Polish
Meyer Lansky was born in Grodno, Poland which back then was considered a part of Russia. This is the only reason he is referred to as a Russian Jew. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.188.186.214 (talk • contribs).
Yes, Lansky was Polish, but I think it's slightly more confusing than this. He was originally of Russian nationality since he was born within the Russian empire - he was born in Grodno, now in Belarus - so it would not be unfair to call him originally a Russian of Polish Jewish extraction. But all that tied him to Russia was nationality, and once that was lost, there is no real association. Grodno had in the past belonged to the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth, but it lay in the Lithuanian, not Polish, part. However, his parents were ethnically/culturally Polish, so even after emigration it makes sense to call him Polish as well as Jewish. Since he was not born in Poland, nor in a location which historically belonged to Poland, nor did an independent Poland exist until after he had emigrated anyway, I linked to Polish Jews rather than to Poland. VivaEmilyDavies 17:36, 2 Dec 2004 (UTC) nah ha
[edit] Arms to Israel
Did he smuggle weapons for the Haganah in 1948? -- Error 02:00, 8 Aug 2004 (UTC)
- I believe so - will research this & incorporate into the article as necessary Lewvalton 14:39, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
[edit] What is this?
"was a gangster born in Grodno, then part of Belarus occupied by the Russian Empire but now in Belarus". This is really funny, what Belarus? There was no Belarus untill present times, there was only an occupation of Poland/PLC. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 195.68.232.103 (talk • contribs).
[edit] His birth name
I have heard his birth name was Maier Suchowljansky. Searching on Google by Maier Suchowljansky, I get 711 hits - Which name should be correct? --1523 01:01, 17 December 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Inconsistancy
Meyer Lanksy didn't order the hit on Bugsy. He got him a second and third chance and after the casino made a profit Bugsy's girlfriend Virginia Hill stole the money Bugsy owed the mobsters and fled to Europe. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.224.192.143 (talk • contribs).
[edit] Tags
I took off the "disputed" tag as I didn't think this article was more or less disputed than other OC articles. However I did add an "unsourced" tag, as it cited zero sources. I think this article is generally not bad but it needs to cite its sources.--Mantanmoreland 17:31, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
