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Seeing as this page is primarily a guide to the Metroid series, and links to a specific page about Super Metroid, perhaps this page should be renamed "Metroid_(series)", as used an umbrella page. What does everyone think? Adam Conover 01:38, Mar 22, 2004 (UTC)

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[edit] Themes

Is it just me or is the over all theme of the Metriod series is man VS nature? Also the series seems more like Space Opeara then Sci-Fi to me. Zerath13


[edit] Umbrella page? Sure.

I think I like that plan. What says everyone about the Metroids themselves having their own entry, also?

Yes, I'm very much with that plan. And this page, called "Metroid", should be used for the series; the page for NES game should be at Metroid (NES) or somewhere else. Fredrik (talk) 01:28, 18 Jun 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Metroid related informations

Is it permissible to add the informations like this? Relating to METROID name exists METROID TEAM, a famous video-game group with international highlights. To add and increases the The Free Dictionary and the Wikipedia Enciclopedia, is valid to agree informations like this. For further informations, follow a couple of fonts to be consulted.

http://www.twingalaxies.com/index.aspx?c=59&kw=metroid (or on www.twingalaxies.com -> Search -> Metroid -> Articles ) --- A lot of texts, links and championship results including Metroid Team. Main links: 8/17/2001 Daily Californian, Salinas, California 3/13/2002 Brazilian Dominates Wacky Races 8/20/2001 Bios for Brazil's Metroid Team 8/23/2001 Brazil's Metroid Team Appears in USA Newspaper 7/27/2001 Metroid Team Big Hit with Crazy Taxi 7/27/1999 Brazilian Players Make PSX High-scores

http://www.twingalaxies.com/cgi-perl/Crazy_Taxi_World_Championship.pl --- Crazy Taxi (Dreamcast) Twingalaxies World Championship;

http://www.twingalaxies.com/cgi-perl/Crazy_Taxi_2_Newsletter_Final.pl --- Crazy Taxi 2 (Dreamcast) Twingalaxies World Championship

http://www.twingalaxies.com/cgi-perl/Wave_Race_Newsletter_Final.pl --- Wave Race 64 (Nintendo64) Twingalaxies World Championship

http://www.twingalaxies.com/cgi-perl/breaking_news4.pl --- Look for Player Profiles. Look for Player Interviews.

http://www.californianonline.com/news/stories/20010817/localnews/885350.html --- "If you need to lose to someone, make it Equipe Metroid." Californian (USA) newspaper with Metroid Team highlights;

http://br.groups.yahoo.com/group/equipemetroid/ --- in Portuguese.

http://an.uol.com.br/1999/dez/10/0cid.htm http://an.uol.com.br/1999/dez/18/ http://an.uol.com.br/1999/dez/18/0ane.htm --- "A NOTÍCIA", Brazilian newsletter (and online newsletter) of great importance, about National Championship. In Portuguese.

http://www.twingalaxies.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1286&sid=7709c58c380e1e1330b60d5061375e8e or on www.twingalaxies.com -> Forums -> Crazy Bounties -> 1st Crazy Bounty - VERIFIED !! --- Cristiano (Metroid Team) becoming the first player in history to break one videogame challenge, and Won US$100.

http://www.soniccenter.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=122 --- Important videogame board. Player writing and asking about the "famous" Metroid Team. See: "One more thing: I don't know of anyone on the Metroid Team (for any readers who don't know, that's a famous group of top Brazilian gamers)..."

--- And a lot of non-internet based articles, including Brazilians magazines, and international covers and highlights.

[edit] MERGE

Why does everyone want to merge all the side-topics into MP2?

I assume you mean relatively minor side topics like Luminoth and Ing. They're so minor in the grand scheme of Metroid and indeed things in general that they really don't need separate articles. Andre (talk) 02:15, Dec 2, 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Metroid Consolidation

I hope I'm not overstepping my limits or stepping on anyones toes with this, but I noticed that there are a ton of small, highly limited pages about Metroid that aren't really very cohesive. In this spirit, I am consolidating much of the smaller pages into an umbrella page here, as it seemed the best place. The goal there being to make a single useful page rather than dozens of small pages that are difficult to find. So if I'm doing something wrong, please be kind in reprimanding me. An example of what I mean: Previously there was a 'Power Suit' and a 'Power Beam' page. These terms could mean something from another game, anime, book, etc. Besides which, the average person probably won't search 'Power Suit' while thinking of 'Metroid.' By putting it in a single page, all the relevant info is right there at the immediate search term. I noticed also that people had talked about doing this, but not done it... so I took a bit of initiative. Chaz 02:22, Dec 2, 2004 (UTC)

Well while your motives may have been good, in doing so you have removed any reference to Samus' power suit(a very important part of the overall games plots), the main article doesn't even mention it and there is only a brief mention of it in the Samus Aron article. Perhaps you could work it in the article before removing a page?--Silver86 07:28, 19 Dec 2004 (UTC)
There is another page with ALL the weapons and suits.

Items in the Metroid series

[edit] Spoiler?

Correct me if I'm wrong,it's been an AWFUL long time since I played metroid, but isn't the fact that the major character is female a huge secret? I seem to recall having to complete the game twice before you get to the sequence where the character takes her helmet off. If this is the case, should the article be so upfont about it?Gmaxwell 05:09, 3 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Well, that was only really the case with the original Metroid, I think. All the rest of the games actually admit their character is a female before the ending. --Sparky the Seventh Chaos 08:27, Jan 3, 2005 (UTC)
I added a spoiler notice before the section about Justin Bailey. — Nathanlarson32767 (Talk) 02:52, 24 Jan 2005 (UTC)
Oops, I meant to post that comment on the Metroid article.. — Nathanlarson32767 (Talk) 02:56, 24 Jan 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Confused about the Timeline

Let me see if I have this straight as far as the timeline/storyline goes:

  1. Metroid 1 (or Zero Mission)
  2. Metroid Prime
  3. Metroid 2
  4. Metroid Fusion

Does Metroid Prime 2 come before or after Metroid 2? All the article says is "Between Metroid Prime and Metroid Fusion". Where does Hunters fit in?

Hunters goes after metroid prime 2. So it would be like this:
  1. Metroid 1 (or Zero Mission)
  2. Metroid Prime
  3. Metroid Prime 2 Echoes
  4. Metroid Prime Hunters
  5. Metroid Fusion

--Zxcvbnm 02:25, 15 July 2005 (UTC)

Nobody really knows anything about the story of Hunters yet. Metroid Prime 2 is directly after Metroid Prime, I believe - but I could be wrong. Andre (talk) 02:43, July 15, 2005 (UTC)
This is correct. K1Bond007 02:52, July 15, 2005 (UTC)
Hunters follows a totally different story line than Metroid Prime but reportedly it is in that sequence.--Zxcvbnm 02:54, 15 July 2005 (UTC)

This is from Talk:Metroid: Zero Mission:

Nintendo has created a Metroid Prime 2: Echoes bonus disc that is available from one of three sources: the Metroid Prime re-release bundle, by registering 5 GameCube games online, or as an option when you subscribe to Nintendo Power. The disc includes a playable demo of the game, as well as a "Metroid Chronicles" feature that arranges the games (those that had been released at the time, at least) in a historical timeline. The ordering is as follows:

  • Metroid
  • Metroid: Zero Mission
  • Metroid Prime
  • Metroid Prime 2: Echoes
  • Metroid II: the Return Of Samus
  • Super Metroid
  • Metroid Fusion

Zero Mission is placed after Metroid due to the events occuring after Mother Brain's defeat. This is evident from the text descriptions that accompany each game.

Metroid:

Nintendo Entertainment System ( NES ) Release Date: 1989
"A research vessel dispatched by the galactic federation discovers and captures a strange life-form called a "Metroid" on the planet SR-388. However, on its way back to federation HQ, the research vessel is attacked by Space Pirates, who steal the Metroid. Once they discover the Metroid's ability to multiply through beta-ray exposure, the Space Pirates conspire to make use of the Metroids in their plot to take over the universe. To stop them, Samus lands on the planet Zebes and single-handedly destroys their underground base — and their leader Mother Brain — after a series of intense battles."

Zero Mission:

Game Boy Advance ( GBA ) Release Date: Febuary 2004
"In an expanded look at Samus' first mission to Zebes, the bounty hunter heads to Zebes to wipe out the Space Pirate threat. However, this story doesn't end after Samus destroys the Mother Brain — As she escapes the planet, her ship is shot down by Space Pirates and she crash lands on the surface of Zebes, near where the Space Pirate Mother Ship has landed. Having lost her power-suit in the crash, Samus must infiltrate the Space Pirate ship and fight her way off the planet."

I've heard that Hunters occurs between Prime 1 and Prime 2, but I don't remember where I heard that from. --Poiuyt Man talk 14:16, 25 July 2005 (UTC) It's in Nintendo Power

I have a question about the chronology of the Metroid series, where exactly was the information for the Metroid Zero Mission description found? I noticed the Japanese flash for Metroid Zero Mission was sited, is this the source? If so, is this a direct translation? Darkpulsaromega 03:16, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

I'm wondering about something, too. In I. Crany's logbook entry in Prime 2, he claims that Angseth said Samus "blew up a planet full of Space Pirates". If this is Zebes, then this seems to imply that Echoes takes place after Super Metroid, which contradicts Nintendo's timeline. Please explain! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 67.174.66.138 (talk • contribs) .

[edit] Zero Mission is not a prequel

Please see Talk:Metroid: Zero Mission, anonymous IP User:68.41.169.128 insists on stating that the game is a prequel, without giving any references. I have not received any response to notices I've placed on the user's talk page, and no edit summaries have been given on the reverts. I'd rather not violate the three-revert rule, so help would be appreciated with this situation. Poiuyt Man talk 8 July 2005 22:43 (UTC)

References explaining Zero Mission's status as a prequel were given upon editing in the links section of the article. More detailed evidence was submitted in the Talk:Metroid: Zero Mission page an has yet to be replied to at 8:00a.m. EST on July 9th on Wikipedia. Dai Grepher 9 July 2005 12:01 (UTC)

Additional opinions would be helpful on the talk page, as the only current participants are Dai pher and myself. The argument has quickly grown out of control, and doesn't seem to be accomplishing anything. I can't defend the page alone; a consensus needs to be reached to determine the article's content. --Poiuyt Man talk 23:11, 10 July 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Poll

There is now a poll at the bottom of Talk:Metroid: Zero Mission, regarding whether Metroid: Zero Mission should be considered to be a re-telling/remake or prequel of Metroid. Please vote to help us establish a consensus. --Poiuyt Man talk 05:50, 29 July 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Rewritten content

Some comments about my last edit:

  • I think it makes sense to separate the historical information about the Metroid games from their storylines. If nothing else, it allows the storyline to be covered in depth while minimizing the scope of a spoiler tag. The current "Chronology" section needs to be expanded, of course.
  • I thought it was a little silly to have a long column of the title screens from all the games.
  • If anyone misses having a straight list of the games without text between them, remember the template at the bottom of the page.
  • The "Themes" section needs some expansion and editing for comprehensiveness and accuracy.
  • Maybe there is something to say about fan activity in addition to that about speedrunning? The Metroid Database could be mentioned, for example.

Fredrik | talk 20:30, 12 August 2005 (UTC)

The images that you got rid of should be deleted, since most of them are all orphans now, unless a use can be found for them. Thunderbrand 22:57, August 13, 2005 (UTC)
They could be used in the articles for the individual games. Though, they would not be much more illustrative there. Fredrik | talk 22:59, 13 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Metroid Wikicity

People around here may be interested in the Metroid Wikicity. It has plenty of room for fancruft and strategy guides... perhaps even fan fiction. Some of the Wikipedia articles on Metroid locations and characters would probably be better placed there. Fredrik | talk 02:12, 5 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Metroid Dread

So, has it pretty much been confirmed that Metroid Dread has been cancelled? If so, should it be removed from the "upcoming" section of the series template and be merged into the main Metroid series article? ~ Hibana 21:31, 16 November 2005 (UTC)

As far as I know, Nintendo-Next (see Metroid Dread article) is the only source that has claimed the game to be cancelled. I think more sources are needed before it can be confirmed. --Poiuyt Man talk 22:19, 16 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Secret Worlds

Why the hell is there no article on them? I am not an expert but What. The. F9!

You're more than welcome to write one yourself, but chances are, it won't be considered encyclopedic and will end up getting merged or deleted. ~ Hibana 03:39, 17 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Image

I wanted to find that "Screw Attack S" to put in the page, and I found one... but is kind of small. What do you think? igordebraga ≠ 00:48, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] WTF?!?!?!?!?!?!?

Okay, I'm starting to get really ticked off about this shinespark thing. How do you do it, where do you do it, and can somebody please tell me in detail? I would really like to know how, because I love easter eggs and the like, but I can't find it *sigh*. Okay, it's been about 13 hours since I typed that last sentence, I've been looking for the shinespark thing, and still can't find it. Somebody tell me!—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 66.166.78.43 (talk • contribs) 16:18, May 2, 2006.

Shinespark! Dread Lord CyberSkull ✎☠ 00:57, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Non-linear pioneer

Clarifying my edit of the comment "The Metroid games are particularly associated with nonlinear gameplay, which was pioneered by the first installment in the series"; Examples of non-linear games prior to Metroid (August, 1986) include games such as Legend of Zelda (February 1986) and Tunnels of Doom (1982). Druff 21:30, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] correct me if i'm wrong

I think the description of the Metroid Prime Hunters part at least is far too POV. I personally found the single player mode very entertaining and didn't see anything rushed about it. Most reviews agree with me. Further, it took them almost 3 years to make that game with nintendo pushing back a late 2005 release date in response to fans who insisted they wanted an internet multiplayer mode. Thus, if anything, it should be the internet multiplayer part that seems rushed. I understand that longtime fans might dislike the FPS gameplay compared to what was standard in all past Metroid games, and that should be in the article. The other opinions have little basis.

[edit] Linking directly to gamefaqs guides

Gamefaqs has an anti-leech mechanism set up, you can do what some articles do and mention that it requires a cut and paste of the URL, or find another source.--BigCow 20:51, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikiproject?

Anyone else think we should get a wikiproject together? I watch all the metroid pages, but I think there are enough articles to justify starting a wikiproject to make them more uniform, and to create a forum for ideas about the future of the articles. Digital Watches 02:57, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Film Merge

I want to suggest merging Metroid (film) into this page. As it stands now, the info in the film page is identical to the paragraph in the "Franchise Spin-offs" section of the series page, with the exception of one line dedicated towards John Woo. That line could easily be put in the series page, and the film page trashed for now. The film page should certainly come back later on, if the movie starts production and more info begins flowing, but until then, it just seems like a waste of space. Arrow 21:46, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

I agree, it is a waste of space. --Dr. Pizza 17:39, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

Yes, sounds like a good idea. The separate page for just a few sentences when it would easily fit in the main Metroid series page is a waste. - ChaosMaster 11:38, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

What ChaosMaster said. Metakraid 21:26, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] One of Nintendo's most sucessful franchises?

I admit that I have no sources to back this up, but I thought that Metroid was very unpopular in Japan, and only had decent sales in the U.S. (That would explain why the Metroid Prime triology is developed by a company in Austin, Texas, and why more recent Metroid games are released in the US or UK before they are anywhere else). Can anyone give me sales figures to disprove or back up what I just said? --69.241.228.117 21:44, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

I have read that Metroid is less popular in Japan than elsewhere, though I don't know about "very unpopular." Regardless, the franchise is very successful in the US and Europe, especially from Metroid Prime onward. I can't think of another Nintendo franchise that would rank higher, besides Mario and Zelda. --Herald Alberich 22:11, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
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