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I mostly replied on this page to your comments and inquiries, unless it is a notice for me to participate on another Discussion page.

If I do not reply soon, it is probably because I am in meatspace. Either that or you happen to be a troll, perhaps literally. :-) -- Menchi 11:21 17 Jun 2003 (UTC)

[edit] Archives

1. /Stardate 0.0001 (December 16, '02 - June '03)
2. /Stardate 0.0002 (July '03 - August 2003)
3. /Stardate 0.0003 (August '03 - October)
4. /Stardate 0.0004 (October '03 - December)
5. /Stardate 0.0005 (January '04 - June)
6. /Stardate 0.0006 (July '04 - Dec)
7. current page: Dec '04 / Jan '05 - present
8. ...
9. "/Stardate 9.9999": Oops, running of out #, Starfleet must self-destruct. Guess we brainiacal superhumans should've learned lessons from That Insectoid Incident in the end of the the second millennium.

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[edit] [wohngdongwaa pengyam

Please address the doubts raised at Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Gwohngdongwaa pengyam. In particular, the article doesn't explain the history and origins of this romanization. The same objections seem to be applicable to Penkyamp. Can you update the articles with the information about the history of these systems? In particular, can you add some reputable external links or books, is it is in, e.g., Jyutping article? Thank you, Mikkalai 01:12, 31 Dec 2004 (UTC)

I'm not the original author of either articles. I probably copyedited them re: spelling etc, but I have no idea where the original author got the content. For all I know, they are personal inventions. Although, I must say, for a long time, I just assumed (without checking other sources or even Google) that they are authentic and even helped propagating them by adding them to the template. How foolish I am! I have commented on both VfD pages. --Menchi 02:03, 31 Dec 2004 (UTC)

You didn't comment on Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Penkyamp. Mikkalai 02:09, 31 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Ok, done. I've dropped a note on those who commented on Gwohngdongwaa pengyam, alerting them of the presence of the Penkyamp page. --Menchi 02:25, 31 Dec 2004 (UTC)

• Keep: Fellow Wikipedians, please pause and think for a second: do you know the exact origin and meaning of "penkyamp" in the Cantonese language? Proper nouns(let's have no doubt that "Penkyamp" is indeed a proper name for the orthography), have varying degrees of SPECIFICITY. The fact that the name "penkyamp" does not automatically lead us to the origin of such system doesn't mean that such system wasn't in use under different names. Let's see: "penkyamp" as a GENERAL NOUN is inspired by Mandarin "pinyin", which is itself both a proper name for a system and a general noun designating "phonetic script". As a result, "penkyamp" as a general noun has been in use among the Cantonese referring to any phonetic script since at least the birth of the Mandarin Pinyin. And "Penkyamp" as a proper noun for a specific system might not be in place well after this system was in use for many years, only until it was introduced to us as such. What if on-line records before 2003 has been mostly erased?

Besides, the article started under the entry Cantonese Romanization instead of Penkyamp. Maybe back then "Penkyamp" wasn't finalized as its only proper name. It could be "Lomazi" or "Zeuyamp". At least it's nothing as specific as "Jyutpin" (a name that is hightly stylized and specified as a "PINyin"--note: not a Cantonese pronunciation--- of the "Jyut"(Guangdong)-- nothing can get as specific as this, which will garantee to trace back to its origin as an officially sponsored scheme). But "penkyamp" is not as specific as this. It means "phonetic script", is spelled as is pronounced in Cantonese, and is in circulation among the Cantonese thanks to the already existing Mandarin "Pinyin". I urge you to think twice about our obsession with the specificity of the proper name of the entry: what you call "Penkyamp" is actually of secondary relevance. The question is, what kind of usage, or systems were in existence before this name was finalized, on Wikipedia?

the above unsigned msg is from the originator of the above articles, User:Dunshi

Please place new message at the bottom of the talk page as per convention. I've moved it down. --Menchi 20:23, 2 Jan 2005 (UTC)

[edit] A request

I assume you know Chinese. If this is the case, I would like for the articles Tao Ren and Tao Jun (on fictional characters in a comic book) to have the "proper" Hanyu Pinyin romanizations for their names. WhisperToMe 01:41, 5 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Done. These names are fake romanizations. They look like Wade-Giles, but then, in WG, "Tao Ren" = "Tao Lien" (PY: Dao Lian). And "Tao Jun" = "Tao Jen" (PY: Dao Ren). --Menchi 06:05, 5 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Thank you, Menchi :) - I believe the given names are both characters are Japanized or are romanized in a strange manner (I believe the Japanese made the official spellings) WhisperToMe 03:13, 7 Jan 2005 (UTC)

I have another request: Lee Bailong. WhisperToMe 03:16, 7 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Done. --Menchi 05:41, 7 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Again, thank you :) I have one more request - Bason, found in the "Shaman King" article. He doesn't have his own article but his Chinese characters are there. :) WhisperToMe 02:55, 8 Jan 2005 (UTC)

It's Ma3 Sun1. --Menchi 03:08, 8 Jan 2005 (UTC)

That's an interesting romanization. :o Thank you :) WhisperToMe 04:10, 8 Jan 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Vanity page?

Hi Menchi,

I don't think it qualifies as a vanity page. He didn't write it. I don't agree with his views and I have written more than most. He is notable within Washington state politics, these initiatives are a big deal up there, and he's a big wheel in opposing some of them. Libertas

[edit] Re: :-)

Posted on User_talk:ClockworkSoul

I came across User:ClockworkTroll/Name the Admin Candidate just now and was truly impressed by your willingness to compromise for the community's sake. Not everybody would be willing to take a step back during such personal debates, as I've witnessed before at the RfA. I don't really know you, but I hafta say that what you did there was very admirable. That act alone showed your sincerity and coolheadness, hence your adequacy as an admin. So, here's a belated symbolic vote of support. WP has way too much stubborness and closed ears. I'm glad to see a sign of WP's friendly and cooperative spirit again. Anyway, "ClockworkSoul" sounds way cooler! --Menchi 02:21, 7 Jan 2005 (UTC)

• Thanks, Menchi! I'm always glad one somebody runs across that page. I think it turned out well, and I'm very happy with my new name. Honestly, though, it isn't so much that I'm very coolheaded, but that I have little patience for bickering. ;) – ClockworkSoul 03:33, 10 Jan 2005 (UTC)

[edit] 我就住在大连，但是却发现你对大连、旅顺了解的比我多多了

看到你创立的旅顺口条目，真的太棒了，甚至都有政府所在的地址！我是新来的维基人，希望多多交流！--Mickeymousechen 18:15, 22 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Thanks. You're too kind! --Menchi 22:17, 22 Jan 2005 (UTC)

[edit] re: Zenichi Shimbashi

Good evening. Back in October 2003, you added Zenichi Shimbashi to the list of notable Japanese Canadians. Since then, an anonymous user created an article for Zenichi Shimbashi. This anonymous user has a history of vandalism. I am, unfortunately, having to go back and challenge every non-reverted edit from that IP. Can you please go to the VfD discussion on this article and comment about the verifiability of the information in the Zenichi Shimbashi article? Thanks. Rossami (talk) 23:43, 7 Feb 2005 (UTC)

I got it from the Canadian Encyclopedia Online. But if he's not as famous as the Canadian Encyclopedia claims, then maybe he shouldn't have an entry. --Menchi 02:41, 8 Feb 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Mt. Fuji

Good idea about reducing the Mt. Fuji etymology. Actually though, if you look at the archives, you'll see that original all that information was in Mt. Fuji but not Taketori Monogatari. Taketori was a bit of a stub. I moved all that information over to Taketori, but never got around to summarizing the information on Mt. Fuji. Thanks for doing that, since it made me finally clean it up a little. --Carl 01:12, 15 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Ah..that makes sense. Yeah, it'd be a bit disappointing for the reader to read Taketori Monogatari, only to find the content to be the duplicate of the one on Mt. Fuji. Or vice versa. --Menchi 02:00, 15 Feb 2005 (UTC)

[edit] comment change

re: User talk:Mdeering

no harm intended, just trying to make an article as neutral as possible :) --User:Mdeering

[edit] Taiwan Notice Board

Hello,

Just for your information, I am comming to advertise the Wikipedia:Taiwan-related topics notice board that I have recently created in the hope that contributers with a focus on Taiwan related topics can have a place to discuss on different proposals, in case if you still has an appetite for Taiwanese articles. I wonder if you would care to sign in as one of the contributer? Please also take a look at the question about the title of Chen Yi in the talk page of the notice board. The debate is on whether his position is Chief Exacutive or Governor-General? :-DMababa 06:01, 12 Mar 2005 (UTC)

I'm honoured by the invitation, and I've watchlisted that page. However, I'm not really in the "intensive contributing phase" anymore, so I'd hate to list myself only to never do any at all. I'll comment if possible. --Menchi 08:27, 12 Mar 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Mandarin Promotion Council

Hullo! Do you know any good books or websites (or anything else) where I could read up on the Preparatory Commission for the Unification of the National Language (國語統一籌備會), especially on its decision to promote Mandarin as the guoyu?

A friend of mine claims that Mandarin was chosen based on its relative "simplicity" (whatever that means), whereas I opined that it was due to its being used as the guanhua for much of Qing times, its standardization and widespread teaching through the zhengyin shuyuan and its finally being declared the national language in the early 20th century. Do you know anything that can shed some light on this?

Thanks! --Xiaopo ℑ 08:10, 12 Mar 2005 (UTC)

I did that article so long ago...so I don't remember any specific websites I got the info from.

Re: simplicity. I agree with you. It's just what the Qing had been using in its capital, Beijing. It's also interesting to note that Mandarin not really the native language of the ROC leaders. Dr Sun Yat-sen was from the Cantonese-speaking region, and Chiang spoke the Ningpo dialect at home. So it's isn't like they picked Mandarin because it's their native dialect either. --Menchi 08:27, 12 Mar 2005 (UTC)

[edit] help

i don't know if you are free to help, i am trying to get some information about the colleges and universities in Canada for my post graduate study. can u help? maybe you can email me if you'd like to help. thx! --User:Yacht (talk) 11:36, Mar 16, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] FPC

Your Featured picture candidate has been promoted Your nomination for featured picture status, Image:Pine cones, male and female.jpg, gained a consensus of support, and has been promoted. If you would like to nominate another image, please do so at Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates.

Aw..I'm so honoured! --Menchi 06:02, 27 Mar 2005 (UTC)

[edit] canadian chinese

hey i dont know how to send a message, so im going to post a message for you. i want to know how you feel about living in canada as a chinese. i live in usa now and hate it. i want to know if canada is any better. how do canadians treat the chinese?

[edit] Fenqing

would u take a look at this entry (Fenqing)? i meant to translate that all, but feeling unable and awkward. i guess the transliteration of the title is alright, bringing some new words for English! :) it's quite crowded these days, so i want to add some new entry about it. :D --User:Yacht (talk) 16:08, Apr 11, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] pine

Thanks for your wonderful pine picture! Would you mind uploading it to the Wikipedia commons in the proper category so all can use it?:) If you see my edit history, you'll see I'm way too busy to do this myself. Thanks again! --Zantastik 03:48, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Proofreading request

Hi Menchi,

I have a small request that perhaps you can help with. At the Vietnamese Wikipedia, there is an article about a historic document that was originally written in Han characters. Since we only have the quốc ngữ transcription of the text, we had to reverse-transcribe the text into Traditional Chinese word by word. Since none of us can read the Chinese characters, it's prone to mistakes. Would you read over the article vi:Chiếu dời đô (the Chinese part) and let me know if it makes any sense? The document is about a king asking his subjects whether to move the capital. Thanks. DHN 04:39, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)

For reference, here's a supposedly "correct" version of the text: [1] (comparing them is really a pain if you can't read Chinese :-)) DHN 04:47, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Thanks a lot for your help! It's been changed. :-) DHN 17:43, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)

[edit] copyright of images on the commons.

Hey, I just posted a message for you (in French, since your page said that was your first language) concerning the copyright of an image you'd uploaded. You should tag your images , and be advised that one cannot restrict the use of an image to wikipedia projects and place that image on the commons. You can restrict the image to wikimedia use and put it on wikimedia projects individually, but such a license is non-free and thus unacceptable on the commons. I hope this clears matters up. Please see my message on your commons talk page -- it's more detailed and I have some links for you. --Zantastik 00:24, 17 May 2005 (UTC)

One last thing -- it appears that you've been adding much of value to wikipedia and to the commons and I really want to thank you for all your effort! Users like you are a treasure. --Zantastik 00:26, 17 May 2005 (UTC)

Your message is very kind, but, mmmm.... are you sure I'm the person you're thinking of? First of all, nowhere have I ever claimed to speak French as a first language. Secondly, my Commons Talk page has no new messages. --Menchi 03:55, 18 May 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Contact me!

Hello, I need to contact you by e-mail. Please write to me at arkerarker@gmail.com . Cheers!

Click on "E-mail this user" at the sidebar to contact me by e-mail. --Menchi 19:09, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Bariatrics

Do you have a more precise reference on the origin of the term? JFW | T@lk 22:15, 26 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Any large dictionary should have that etymology. I used the Random House Int'l, but I'm very sure OED, etc, would have such etymology too. --Menchi 22:16, 26 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Oh, yeah. Sometimes an actual reference can be given, but this may not be possible in this instance. JFW | T@lk 22:54, 26 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Sea of Japan (once again)

There's a discussion on how to refer to the Sea of Japan in Korean contexts here. I believe I have summarized the issue now, and would like to invite you to comment on the issue in a few days (once things settled down). Cheers! Kokiri 29 June 2005 20:19 (UTC)

Don't bother, I was too early (i.e. too optimistic)—I wouldn't bother you at this stage. Have a good day! Kokiri 1 July 2005 18:33 (UTC)

[edit] Sun Yat-sen

I'm trying to push this article for FAC. As one of the major contributors, could you help out? I don't dare put it on peer review untill I have some references. What books/websites did you use? Borisblue 4 July 2005 06:20 (UTC)

Miscellaneous websites from which identical factoids can be found in numerous other websites. Don't remember the URLs. Sorry. --Menchi 4 July 2005 08:47 (UTC)

Oh well. Could you pitch in and help for the FAC effort anyway? cheers Borisblue 4 July 2005 09:03 (UTC)

[edit] Piniyn for names

Hi Menchi. On this page [2] you gave something that could be useful rules for pinyin. I'm currently discussing the topic because I renamed Feng-Kan to Fenggan (buddhist name). The problem I don't understand is that the article page on transcription has been moved to Romanization, and I don't find a fixed guideline for Pinyin names. (BTW you may want to have a look at [3]) gbog 02:44, 16 July 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Sea of Japan/East Sea

Hello! Currently, there is a vote over the name of Sea of Japan/East Sea in Korean contexts. If you are interested in voting, please go here. Yes, we've finally got thus far ;) Have a good day! Kokiri 12:29, 20 July 2005 (UTC)

[edit] reply?

i dunno if u got my reply or not? 'cause i dunt get ur reply. hopefully everything's working well with u! ^^ --User:Yacht (talk) 06:00, August 10, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Writing system

Hi,

The new image for Writing system is just about ready. Since you've commented on the article, do you want to take a look and see if you have any further suggestions?

Thanks, kwami 07:58, 2005 August 27 (UTC)

[edit] Image:Naked Lily (small).jpg has been listed for deletion

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[edit] User categorisation

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[edit] The name "Menchi"

Hi! I just gotta ask... is your name from Excel Saga? Thanks! :) --Ashenai 00:43, 24 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Image:Pine cones, male and female.jpg

Hi, Menchi. Do you know where your specimen was collected? Or was it a cultivated tree? Thank you, Walter Siegmund (talk) 02:35, 5 November 2005 (UTC)

It's collected beside a train station, so it's cultivated, but I don't know what species or variety the pine is. Sorry. --Menchi 02:53, 5 November 2005 (UTC)

Thank you. I was trying to add locations to Commons:Pinus contorta (your specimen was identified by User:MPF). I'm sorry your image wasn't featured. I liked it. Best wishes, Walter Siegmund (talk) 03:58, 5 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Peer review/Yuan (surname)

If you have a minute, could you take a look at the article Yuan (surname)? I've put it up for peer review (see Wikipedia:Peer review/Yuan (surname)). I hope to make it a model for expanding other Chinese surname articles. Since you've contributed to the Chinese surname article, I would really appreciate your suggestions. Yu Ninjie 21:57, 13 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Middle name

Hi, it may be stretching your memory, but in this edit you said "the phrase "Middle Name" was not coined until 1835 In "Harvardiana", a school song of Harvard." Can you rmember the source for this? Rich Farmbrough 16:17, 28 November 2005 (UTC)

OK I think I've got it. It was the magazine not the song. Rich Farmbrough 16:24, 28 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] A Deleted Bio

I wrot an article on my cousin Christopher Allen Weller. All information was correct. He is a writer and has been published. He has also been quoted several times. I am writing you this because a 15 year old administrator deleted the bio I created for him. This is very important to me. I created this bio because he is very ill and is fighting cancer. The administrator sited he deleted it due to vanity. He did not write this I did. It was deleted Nov 28. can you please help.

Just FYI I also received the above, unsigned e-mail. I can't seem to find any trace of this deleted article and the contributor's only other Wikipedia work was to upload a couple of images of Weller back in September. Sounds NN to me if you happen to find this article, please let me know and I'll take a look at it. Sounds like it might have been speedied, though depending on the content it might be more appropriate for AFD. Cheers. 23skidoo 20:48, 29 November 2005 (UTC)

Got an email on this too, have replied on user's talk page. Was speedied, after a short time on AFD. See Christopher Allen Weller and Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Christopher Allen Weller. Looks pretty deleteable to me, dunno if it was a clear-cut speedy. Have suggested that the creator cite some evidence of notability and bring it to WP:DRV if he feels that would do any good. Alai 02:34, 30 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Sources for Provincial city

Hello, sometime ago you added a fair bit of content to Provincial city. As you may be aware, we are currently trying to improve Wikipedia's accuracy and reliability by making sure articles cite the sources used to created them. Do you remember what websites, books, or other places you learnt the information that you added to Provincial city? Would it be possible for you to mention them in the article? Thank you very much. - SimonP 15:33, 4 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Hi Menchi, please help

I would like to request your help with serious NPOV and verifiability problems on the Arabic numerals page. I have mentioned it, yet again, here Wikipedia:Wikiquette_alerts#December_17. Please help me recruit as many neutral and well-intending editors to the page to counter the strong and manifest bias. Regards, and thanks. csssclll (14:43, 17 December 2005 (UTC))

[edit] Image:Magnolia.jpg

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[edit] Help redoing redirect?

Hi there. I am considering changing the redirect for Ptolemaic found here to a disambiguation page for Ptolemaic, distinguishing between Ptolemaic dynasty and Ptolemaic system and also Ptolemy, plus other uses if I think of them. I clicked on the "What links here" for the current redirect (see here) and there is a list of about 43 links, not all of which should be redirecting to Ptolemaic dynasty (which is where the redirect is currently pointing). I see that you did the original redirect. Would you be able to help tidy up the links? Carcharoth 14:13, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Chiton classification

Hi Menchi, I've added a recent image to the Chiton page but I'm unsure of it's Latin name. Can you help? It is obviously the second photo in Miscellaneous. Thanks. Dianamegan 15:24, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Erya title

I noticed that you contributed "the Dictionary of Terms" to the Erya article on 29 November 2004. I've unsuccessfully searched for this translation and wonder where it comes from. Do you remember? Thanks. Keahapana 19:46, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

I found it on Google, but I can't find it myself now either. Sorry. --Menchi 20:01, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. Please check the Erya discussion page. Keahapana 23:42, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] 8 strokes of Yong

Hello menchi, please can you tell me if my pic is right or wrong. I'm not sure for the Wan, but many book say tha "Wan" is one of the 8 fondamental strokes.
Thanks to help me Yug (talk) 13:19, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

It looks like Wan is just another name for Lüè (掠) "slight curve". --Menchi 00:18, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Menchi

Is your name anything to do with Menchi from Excel Saga? You're my emergency food supply! ;) Sergeant Snopake 11:18, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Central Asia

WikiProject Central Asia has finally been created! If you're interested, please consider joining us. Aelfthrytha 21:50, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Possibly unfree Image:Lined Chiton.jpg

[edit] Possibly unfree Image:Gumboot Chiton.jpg

[edit] Nice article: Photoshop tennis

Very interesting. User:Pedant 01:14, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Loveland, Ohio

Hi Menchi, it's been awhile since I saw you over at the Vietnamese Wikipedia. A couple years ago, you asked about the etymology of Loveland, Ohio's name. Since it's my hometown, I was wondering if you could translate a little of the article into another language. (Don't worry, I'm not trying to pull a Kurów. :^) ) – Minh Nguyễn (talk, contribs) 20:41, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] changed one of your entries

Hi, I removed a dubious section for http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Li_Chengqian%2C_Crown_Prince_of_Tang_China with reasons provided in the discussion page. I am not a history buff; merely saw some inconsistencies. Please check into it when you have the time. Thanks.

[edit] Image:Carbonyl.png listed for deletion

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[edit] 好久不见

在中文版好久不见你的身影，什么原因不来了呢？--Shizhao 18:39, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Article in need of cleanup - please assist if you can

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