Wikipedia:Mediation Cabal/Cases/2006-11-09 Ruckus Network

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Wikipedia Mediation Cabal
Article: Ruckus Network
State: Open
Requested By: Nroseszu
Other Parties: Nroseszu, Plasticbadge
Mediated By: Gzkn
Comments: Currently being mediated.

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[edit] Mediation Case: 2006-11-09 Ruckus Network

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[edit] Request Information

Request made by: Nroseszu 00:51, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

Nroseszu

Where is the issue taking place?
... Ruckus Network article and history -- Discussion on User page of Plasticbadge
Who's involved?
...Plasticbadge & Nroseszu
What's going on?
...PlasticBadge is blanket reverting all changes I make -- I have stepped in, as an employee of Ruckus, to make factual changes to the page. My post to his profile page best explains the situation:

"This is not a discussion of Ruckus Talk, this a a discussion about your practices on Wikipedia. You feel it necessary to act as the sole administrator of all things factual with respect to any/all changes I have just made. Instead of calmly editing my posting (in which I attempted to be 100% factual and accurate -- going so far as to elaborate on some of Ruckus' weaknesses), you opted to blanket revert the page back to your own message. Effectively, you have taken out all open community and communication on the matter and instead declared that you've "spent far too long ridding this article of adspeak to let it go back to that sad state." If you would've looked at my edits closely, you would realize that they were entirely void of such verbage. I am merely asking for an open dialogue -- I am not your enemy, please do not treat me as such. -Nroseszu 6:42, 8 November 2006 (EST)

And this:

"It's obvious that you have a personal vendetta either against Ruckus or for an employee of a company trying to use Wikipedia in general. I give up and will just have to file a request for mediation from Wikipedia. Anything I have posted, no matter how accurate it may be, is changed by you because you have annointed yourself the arbitor of all things Ruckus on Wikipedia. Far be it for me, an employee of Ruckus with direct knowledge of information to attempt to correct your innacuracies. -Nroseszu 7:23, 8 November 2006 (EST)"

This personal vendetta seems to be the case, as he has just updated his User Page with the following:

"I didn't intend it at first, but over time my specialty seems to have become keeping an eye on corporate pages for suspiciously positive changes. I believe fiercely that Wikipedia is not free server or advertisement space for any company and can only be trusted by the public if corporate involvement in articles is strictly watched."

I assure you, neither myself nor my company are trying to use Wikipedia for advertising -- we are merely trying to have accurate and factual information posted, have inaccuracies removed, and be allowed to post content (such as external links) that follows in the same structure as others in our same market -- ie. Zune, Rhapsody, Napster.


What would you like to change about that?
...Work collectively to put up ACCURATE information. With Plastic's closed viewpoints to my changes, he is posting and advocating information on the Ruckus article page that is not only innaccurate based on our current business structure, but could be perceived as libelous information. I would love to resolve this between the parties at hand and not have to involve any legal parties -- with respect to the blatant libel.
Would you prefer we work discreetly? If so, how can we reach you?
...I would love to actually speak in person -- given that I am relatively new to the whole wiki editing process, I seem to be getting lapped in my editing skills, updating skills, etc. If I could give you a number to reach me, that would be greatly appreciated.

[edit] Mediator response

I will read the article and review the edit histories of both parties. I would like to remind both editors to assume good faith and read WP:NOT. As this is my first time mediating as a cabalist, help from more experienced cabalists would be appreciated. Gzkn 03:32, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Compromise offers

This section is for listing and discussing compromise offers.

Please see Talk:Ruckus_Network/Mediation. Gzkn 07:08, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Discussion

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