Talk:Meah Shearim

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[edit] Romanization

The move from "meah" to "mea" is because:

--Hoziron 03:08, 30 October 2005 (UTC)

And I am moving back, since in the Jewish world we do write Meah. I don't particularly care what all of those organizations say. I care about what us, those involved in the area, say. --Daniel575 | (talk) 17:16, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] "large groups disturbing the quiet"

What on Earth does this mean? The neighborhood is many things, but quiet is not one of them, nor was it before tourists. Residents of Mea Shearim may have plenty of reasons to not want tourists around, but "disturbing the quiet" is pretty silly. I'll wait a little while before changing this... —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Mattcarl (talk • contribs).

[edit] Edah

First of all, Daniel, I realize that "silly" is hardly offensive. I'm just warning you now not to lest these insults escalate as has happened in the past. Secondly, I don't see the relevance between EH and MS. I don't dispute where EH is located. But A.) that's not even mentioned in the article, and B.) so what? Based on that logic, I should link to every Pizza Parlour in NY on the New York page. --Meshulam 17:39, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

I strongly agree that the Edah shoud not be in the "See Also" section unless the article contains a significant reference to the Edah. Just because it is a popular organization for the residents, and their offices are located there, is not sufficient. And if someone wants to write something about the connection, then the link will be right there, and you won't even need the "See Also". --Keeves 22:37, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

Another issue: Daniel now wants to claim that EH oversees all or almost all MS organizations and activities. Regardless of the supposed truth of this assertion, it has not been verified, and is probably not verifiable. Therefore, the claim should not be included in this article. --Meshulam 20:10, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

What the ....? WHERE did I claim that??? I wrote that the Edah is an organization in which most Jewish organizations in MS are united. To name a few:

Toldos Aharon Toldos Avrohom Yitzchok Satmar Dushinsky Brisk Some minor groups Karlin-Stolin Sanz-Tshakave

Others like Belz and Ger are not in - but they are not MS movements either.
The EH does rule MS. The EH's word is the law there. Not everybody is aligned with the EH, for example Rav Eliashiv isn't. Neither is NK. But the vast majority are. It is a plain fact that the abovementioned movements are included in the EH.
That makes the EH, by definition, the neighborhood council of MS. It is much like an alternative government, an alternative municipality. The EH (its associated movements) also has sizable enclaves in Givat Shaul (where I live) and Ramat Beit Shemesh Bet. The EH is worth mentioning in this article as much as Kadima is worth mentioning in Politics of Israel. --Daniel575 | (talk) 20:45, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
I suggest just a minimal description, describing it as a major local organization, and hashgacha, and not much else. All this other stuff can be put into the Edah article. Anyone who wants more info about the Edah can click on the Edah article and read it there. --Keeves 20:51, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
I agree with Keeves. If these facts are necessary, they can go into the Edah article (assuming they are verified). I add only that they are not verified, and therefore should probably be barred from the Edah article as well. But that has nothing to do with this discussion.--Meshulam 23:02, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] "Why can't christians wear their crosses?"

I have heard rumours that jewish people spit on christians who is wearing their crosses. Is this the reason why christians is advised not to wear anything that identifies as christians?

Unfortunately, 99% of christians in Meah Shearim are there to proselytize. See http://www.jewsforjesus.org . That type. We in Meah Shearim aren't waiting for such things. If you want to complain about this, complain at "Jews For Jesus". --Daniel575 | (talk) 20:19, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Kipah Shrugah?

"Preferably colored" yarmulke? That doesn't sound like Meah Shearim. I would think the Haredim there would prefer a black, velvet kipah. -- 09:53, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

No. The reason why that was written is because an outsider wearing a big black velvet kippah immediately identifies himself as a non-Jew. An secular Jew / Israeli would wear a small colored kippah, of the type you will commonly see at weddings, funerals etc. If someone would be walking around M.S. in secular clothing with a big black velvet kippah, it's like wearing a sign around your neck, "I am a goy". So while at first it might sound weird, when you think a little further, it is very logical. --169.132.18.248 10:53, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
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