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[edit] Welcome

Welcome!

[edit] Asian Companies

I understand and appreciate your desire to contribute, but does every single Asian company really need an entry in the Wikipedia? How about adding some more information to these entries, such as why these companies are significant.

[edit] Punkas

Well done on the re-write. I've changed my vote to keep. Harro5 20:47, May 26, 2005 (UTC)

I never thought it should have been deleted. Good job. RickK 22:47, May 26, 2005 (UTC)

Great now. I copyedited the external links according to Wikipedia style. Cheers -- Svest 02:46, May 28, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] CAF Champions League

Hi. CAF Champions League would probably be a better title. I think I made the African Champions League page as it was straight from a red-link (like SAFA was on my talk page when you posted there). What I'll do is put a redirect from African Champions League to CAF Champions League and merge the pages. I only know the basics of the CAF Champions League, so I'm not quite sure what the MTN/CAF Champions League part is in the main page. Is MTN a sponsor? - Master Of Ninja 20:45, 27 May 2005 (UTC)

[edit] List of Tanzanian companies

Sorry, I'm using someone else's computer that saves more of my previous comments than I am used to--In this case, everything after "fmt" was left over from this edit summary I'd made about a half hour earlier[1]. Niteowlneils 21:49, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Poultry

I've reverted several of your category additions. Poultry refers to domesticated birds, and is appropriate for say Chicken or Helmeted Guineafowl, but not for eg Phasianidae. Most birds in this large family are never domesticated, and many are rare, protected or little known, like the Himalayan pheasants. jimfbleak 05:17, 10 July 2005 (UTC)

The point I was trying to make was that individual species like Common Pheasant can appropopriately be classed as poultry, but not the Phasianidae family as a whole. I've never heard of anyone in the west at least eating any other of the many pheasant species, and some are extremely rare and difficult to find.
Similarly with dove. I would accept that say Wood Pigeon, Turtle Dove and some others might be classed as poultry, but not all 300-odd species. If you know the African species, cat that, and I have no problem, but I do have a problem with all members of the pheasant/dove/ducks, geese and swan families being so labelled when only a handful are verifiably actually used as poultry. jimfbleak 17:12, 10 July 2005 (UTC)
Looking again at your note on my talk page, I think the confusion is between the species and the family. Pheasant is commonly used to refer to the widely eaten and very tasty Common Pheasant, but the Pheasant article refers to the whole family - similarly with dove, only more so.

I've moved discussion to talk:poultry and flagged up on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Tree of Life to get other's views. I have to say that this argument is a great deal more civilsed than the mad edit war thats been taking place at Northern Mockingbird jimfbleak 05:28, 11 July 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Trypanosoma articles

I'm wondering if you would consider reverting the trypanosoma pages. You know, those seperate pages could be very useful in the future if they were expanded. Establishing a new page is the first step towards developing the new page. Even though they are not very interesting at this point, in the future, if they were carefully expanded, they could really make a difference in the set of trypanosoma articles on the Wikipedia, which disease includes chagas and sleeping sickness. It really helps to have the seperate pages available in order to describe the finer differences between the various trypanosomes. That can't be done if each of the seperate species is assigned to the same page. Does this make sense? Please think about it. --McDogm 03:51, 11 July 2005 (UTC)

I read the Talk:Trypanosoma; I am sure you thought the spp pages weren't going to be developed. I am planning on making taxonomy boxes for each, and adding information about the differences (whatever scant difference there may be) to each. It could take a while before the articles aren't subject to the obvious editing instinct to put the spp into the one page; I totally understand the edits. Rest assured, I am following these articles; they are not orphan stubs. Let me know if you think this is reasonable. Sincerely, --McDogm 04:04, 11 July 2005 (UTC)

Hi, McDogm. You're entirely right, I didn't think the stubs would be expanded. In general, protist species are rarely important enough to warrant separate pages, although things like Trypanosoma might well be exceptions. I didn't think it was a good idea to leave such sub-stubs on the off chance for two reasons:

  • It makes it more difficult for readers to find new information by creating red herrings;
  • It makes it more difficult for editors to update and maintain, for instance in the event some fact changes.

If you're planning to expand them, please do, and accept my apologies. However, the sheer number of stubs you've created on a variety of different groups makes me seriously wonder if it wouldn't be better to wait until the information is there. The basic versions, you know, can be retrieved directly using the article history. Josh

Just a final note before you archive this discussion: I spend a lot of time on zh.wikipedia and sometimes on ko.wikipedia, and I am a little spoiled by the environment there. It is as though the Wikipedians over there are a lot more confident about the future of their Wikipediae, and coupled with lower activity rates, they are able to create many articles that wouldn't last on en.wikipedia., because the high user rate on en.wiki creates a lot of "filler" and vandalism which of course needs to be continually pruned away. A lot of articles on zh and ko are empty structures that will be filled over time, and if they were on en they would would be VfD'd as being unprofessional, in a Wikipedia way, for the above mentioned reasons of there being too much filler and vandalism on en, due to the volume. So when I spend time on zh and ko I come back to en with a very optimistic point of view viz a viz the potential of the Wikipedia, and this is how I came to be authoring stubs that were reintegrated into an original article. Sorry for the trouble. Cai jian. Have a nice day. --McDogm 08:45, 19 July 2005 (UTC)

Actually, the problem is more confidence in the information available. Genus stubs are good, but protist species are usually separated on very minor details; for instance, the species of Besnoitia are essentially identical except in their host choice. Separating them out increases the stubs by two or more times, making information hard to find - they overwhelm the categories and links - and maintain, which I think makes it less likely information would be added. Based on this, I would recommend keeping the genera but merging the species, but only if you're okay with it. Josh

[edit] Categorisation

Hi McDogm, I find myself depopulating Category:Medicine of a lot of articles created by yourself. All are good contributions, but they do not belong in that category, especially when the diseases and treatments are only of relevance on poultry. If you look at the medical category you'll rapidly discover that even the most important medical subjects are buried fairly deeply (e.g. heart attack is 2-3 levels deep, depending on the route).

I'm going to bed now, but I was wondering if you could have a look at these articles and reconsider their categorisation. That would be immensely helpful. JFW | T@lk 01:05, 25 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Theodor Bilharz Research Institute

Merely listing an institute as existing at an address is not, in itself, reason to be included in wikipedia. Such articles risk getting picked up and nominated for Votes for Deletion (WP:VfD), this is forever happening to people listing their junior & high schools. If this partiular institute is of particular importance (eg only one in the world, or made notable contribution to the field), then a couple of extra sentances should be quickly added :-)

PS I agree with JFW, you have obviously worked hard to expand the breadth of parasitology articles, but categorisation needs be at the lowest sub-level  :-) David Rubentalk 03:02, 25 August 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for your feedback. We are all new at wikipedia to a greater or lesser extent. Learning comes from observation and feedback, given one hopes politely and with encouragement :-) Don't be too pessimistic about others contibuting to your work, they will (if only to correct spelling mistakes). However there are a lot of empty entries that are not felt to have a role in an encyclopedia and there several forums within wikipedia to identify and tidy-up problems. It is just a question of having at least a sentance or two to add to any new topic.

As for finding others to collaborate with, I found the following in Wikipedia (there may be other forums), hopefully these may help:

I look forward to your further contributions on wikipedia - David Rubentalk 12:48, 25 August 2005 (UTC)


[edit] Science pearls

Hello,

Since you contributed in the past to the publications’ lists, I thought that you might be interested in this new project. I’ll be glad if you will continue contributing. Thanks,APH 10:37, 11 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Swastika

I am afraid I have no idea what you are talking about. Could you provide the diff please? dab (ᛏ) 11:41, 20 October 2005 (UTC) I found out what you are referring to, Talk:Swastika#Happy_Tones. However I still don't understand what you want. Maybe you should make specific suggestions with regard to the article. dab (ᛏ) 12:11, 20 October 2005 (UTC)

I think I see what you're saying, but I fail to see how this isn't perfectly clear to anyone reading the article, or spending half a day in a Hindu or Buddhist part of Asia. The symbol has two different sets of connotations, that's really all there is to it, the article says so very clearly, and it is very easy to understand, so I really don't see a problem. There is no need to insert statements like "alas, this leads to misunderstandings and we need to educate westerners". The misunderstandings arise only between completely uneducated Westerners and completely uneducated Asians. Anybody who spends 10 minutes reading about the subject will not fall prey to them. The problem appears to be rather with Asians who believe that the Nazi use is 'illegitimate', 'mistaken' or 'wrong', while it is at this point simply a reality, so that you cannot gloss over the fact that the swastika is a fascist symbol in the west any more than that it is a religious symbol in the east. regards, dab (ᛏ) 12:45, 20 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Classic Rock

Hello. I was wondering if you would like to participate in my classic rock survey. I'm trying to find the most like classic rock song. There is more information on my user page. Hope you participate! RENTASTRAWBERRY FOR LET? röck 00:32, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] McTrixie Links To Waiguo

Unfortunately, I don't follow www.xzqh.com or McTrixie's work. Sorry. If there is anything interesting, please let me know. I.H.S.V. (talk) 06:35, 8 February 2006 (UTC)

After my consulation of my Chinese social network, you are encouraged to add the links of www.xzqh.com onto Chinese Wikipedian articles but please observe your words and attitudes towards other wikipedians. Calling names like Wengepedia, hard-core Christians, Pat Robertson believers are inappropiate and unnecessary at both English and Chinese Wikipedias. If you have more questions about www.xzqh.com, leave messages at the Chinese wikipedia. Lots of Chinese wikipedians are proficient in English and shall address your problem sooner than here [English Wikipedia]. Cheers. I.H.S.V. (talk) 13:30, 8 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Favorite Songs

My survey has changed. I am now continuing my mission for the best songs, but now I am accepting all genres. I'm giving you a chance to revote for your top ten favorite songs of any genres (not just classic rock which is still the best). I've made a executive decision to keep the existing survey results and just add on to that with the new entries. My feeling for doing this is because classic rock is the most influential genre in music currently so it should be expressed more in the survey. Thank you for contributing in the past, and hopefully in the future. ROCK ON. RENTASTRAWBERRY FOR LET? röck 03:34, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] P:RUS/NEW

Thanks a lot for your great article on Russian companies. If you are interested in Russia-related themes, you may want to check out the Russia Portal, particularly the Portal:Russia/New article announcements and Portal:Russia/Russia-related Wikipedia notice board. You may even want to add these boards to your watchlist.

I have announced your recent articles but I may miss something. Again thanks for your articles abakharev 11:07, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

  • Thanks! abakharev 23:32, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] MBendi

Hi, Ktsquare, thanks for your message of February 2006. As most Chinese Wikipedians speak English according to your note, I am encouraged to make a request: Would it be appropriate to add the English language links at MBendi Information for Africa to ZH:Wikipedia individual African countries' Economy pages? I have linked to the Namibia page, as an example, in the link. Here is another good example, the MBendi World Mining Overview. I will not make any links before I hear from you. Thank you. --McTrixie 19:04, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

Hello McTrixie. IMHO, why would u prefer to add links from mbendi to wikipedia? For example, Is mbendi accountable? Ktsquare (talk) 12:07, 1 October 2006 (UTC)
For your information, English proficiencies of Chinese Wikipedians vary individually as English is the international language for communication. Ktsquare (talk) 12:12, 1 October 2006 (UTC)
Well, if the accountability is true, go ahead and add it. But let me remind u that contributors are responsible for their work. Cheers. Happy editing. Ktsquare (talk) 22:14, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
Well, I have thought about it and I can't put non-Chinese language websites on African country pages just because they are perfectly accountable. But I do have another idea that I have been thinking about for a while: Do you think it would be wise to put the roman alphabet names to the long list of names of countries at the zh Wikipedia Africa article? Everytime I go there I wonder how a Chinese reader is ever going to learn the French, English or Xhosa names of the countries if all they have is the transliterations. --McTrixie 05:58, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

Hello again. IMHO, why would u prefer to perform such action? Ktsquare (talk) 01:52, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Go go compilation

Why is it influential? Do you have any info on chart position or anything? It didn't get deleted, but I think it needs to be expanded. Also, there is no article for volume 1. --Awiseman 20:10, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Early is good, thanks. That makes it more notable --Awiseman 20:26, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
No problem, thanks for your help --Awiseman 20:45, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] List of Central African Republic companies

I've placed a {{prod}} tag on the article you started because it looks like a list that would be better served by the existing Category:Companies of the Central African Republic. -- Hawaiian717 21:18, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks, I hadn't noticed that. I removed the prod tag. The concept of having these lists seems a bit silly to me when we also have the categories, which are also easier to maintain, but that's another issue for another day... -- Hawaiian717 21:25, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] List of companies of Sao Tome e Principe

Hi, I was in the middle of creating this article, and it was deleted by Chairboy; I have recreated the article. Please don't delete this article. Thank you. --McTrixie 14:52, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

The article was deleted because it was a 'list' with a single entry and met the WP:CSD. - CHAIRBOY (☎) 15:17, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Africa new articles

Wow, you have been busy haven't you. For future reference, the items in Wikipedia:Africa-related regional notice board/New articles are organized in reverse chronological order of the date of creation. It's probably not worth going through all of them, so we can just treat the group as one date. Cheers, BanyanTree 19:53, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] List of X-related topics

Good job on the creation of the various List of X-related topics articles. Did you base the idea on List of Cameroon-related topics? These kind of pages are quite handy to those of us editors who like to keep an eye on all articles related to our area of interest. They are a bitch to maintain, though. At any rate, I was curious how you were going about adding the articles to the lists. Are you copying things from the relevant category? Say, copying everything that falls under Category:Uganda for List of Uganda-related topics? If you have access to a good academic library, consider trying to track down a copy of each country's Historical Dictionary. Historical Dictionary of the Republic of Cameroon was the original source for the Cameroon list, and adding all the topics referenced in such a book is a good way to gauge how comprehensive Wikipedia's coverage of a particular country is at the moment (moreso than simply copying articles from categories, since those will by definition be blue links). Keep up the good work! — BrianSmithson 02:07, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

THX, I did start after looking at Cameroon's list. I like the vertical list format over the sector format and the alphabetical paragraph list format. It allows for a few words of description for African place names and the like. My academic library on Africa consists of Ieuan Griffiths's Atlas of African Affairs; I will have to look for more information online; it's not much of a challenge to find corporate info online. After adding extant blue link material, as the work progresses and one learns more and more about the subject, appropriate red link material is added. BTW, is Historical Dictionary a well known academic franchise? I am sure it is not available at my city library. And, how is teaching in Japan? I worked for one year teaching in Chiba and Takadanobaba. --McTrixie 06:49, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
Yeah, the Historical Dictionary series seems pretty well established. They've got at least 81 volumes (including previous editions of current dictionaries), and they've been publishing since the mid-'70s. You might have to head to a nearby university if you want to find them, though. Teaching's great, by the way. I really lucked out with a good school and a good placement. Getting kind of cold though . . . . — BrianSmithson 08:16, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
Yes, it is getting kind of cold here in New England as well. I could never figure out if Japanese people owned electric blankets or not. I did enjoy walking to the gas station to get the kerosene filled. IDK what passport you have; I had to leave Japan every 90 days to renew in Korea. The one-way fare was only US$43 then. Are you planning to use Japanese/Chinese to get a job? It's kind of odd sometimes how that skill can open doors. In Re: Lists, I saw Topics lists first used on the Korea, South Korea and North Korea pages. The lists are great, of course, and they are also essential, as the "See also" section is not appropriate for the number of appropriate articles that should be available to the reader. At least, that's a good theory for their existence. --McTrixie 08:25, 28 October 2006 (UTC) Forgot to mention, about the Cameroon list; was it you that wrote the header and the list template? It's pretty good.--McTrixie 08:37, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
I've got a three-year work visa thanks to the JET Programme, so no trips to South Korea necessary. Not sure if Japanese will help me in the future or not, but I'm definitely trying to learn as much as I can while I'm here. Right now I'm leaning toward an African-related academic field, but nothing's certain as of yet. As for List of Cameroon-related topics, nope, it was created way back in March 2005 by User:Stan Shebs. I've since been adding to it and maintaining it, but he's responsible for the initial text. These pages are also useful since when a link turns blue on one of them, it's more often than not because a disambiguation page is needed (sadly, few people write about African topics on Wikipedia). Fang is a perfect example: Is it an ethnic group? Is it a pointy tooth? Is it a character from Harry Potter? Well, if it weren't for people like you and me, it would be at least one of those things, and it wouldn't be the ethnic group. — BrianSmithson 10:01, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
Well, I was reading last year about Kampala; Fang Fang Restaurant was the nice Chinese restaurant in town, in the big hotel by the lake. I suppose that should go in the Uganda page. Since there are so many people, places and things that will be written about, I assume that there will be a "Kampala" topics page someday. There is already a British Columbia page; every US state will have its list. In re: Japanese and a career; I found that my friends and students would have been disappointed had I not used what I learned; it isn't perfectly easy, of course, but one does get a lot of support if one takes the language seriously. Good luck. --McTrixie 11:29, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
BTW, I have put the topics lists that I created over the past few days - about 20 of them - on my Watchlist. I will check them every day, more or less; and these are the only articles on my watchlist, for all intents and purposes. --McTrixie 01:24, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
Check that, I added most of the pages I wrote to my watchlist, and more. --McTrixie 21:54, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] African military history

Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Military history/African military history task force#How to organize this task force needs some attention. Thanks Wandalstouring 21:38, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] African military history

I moved your suggestion on the Rat Patrol to this wikiproject: Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_List_of_Television_Episodes#From_African_military_history Greetings Wandalstouring 13:52, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] African islands

The category you suggest sounds like it would be identical to Category:Islands of Africa. Is this what you mean? Warofdreams talk 00:24, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

  • It wouldn't be identical, but that category, which I hadn't really looked at, seems to be what we have. My suggestion was more in the line of an observation than a real idea, insofar as changing the categorization of the areas of Africa has no priority; but, there was something about the way Africacafe.com had set up their geographical areas that was very good. Category:Islands of Africa is not a sector of Africa; it includes very many small islands. At any rate, I must remember to add Socotra to that islands category. Thanks for your time, and sorry I hadn't noticed it beforehand. --McTrixie 08:07, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Regarding List of Uganda-related topics

Hello McTrixie, I like the article List of Uganda-related topics that you created. However, it is not customary to make commentaries within the article namespace, like "would include all the military details" in reference to the red link Military history of Uganda under Amin. This is usually done in the articles talk page, or if you want you can create a subpage under your username where you can work on a page prior to putting it in the article namespace.

Also, I notice that you have created a number of red links to sub-topics, eg. Martyrdom of Archbishop Luwum. Although that is certainly a topic of importance, it is preferable to expand the main article Janani Luwum to start with. "Martyrdom of Archbishop Luwum" will most certainly consist of information that is already in the Luwum article (unnecessary duplication of information), or remain a stub that someone most likely will merge/redirect into the main article. This applies also to Kagera Dispute and Ugandan economic crisis of the Uganda-Tanzanian War etc. vis-à-vis Uganda-Tanzania War.

Some of the red-linked topics on that page are better off not as separate articles, but as sub-sections of existing articles. There are simply not enough people editing Uganda-related articles, or sources/references available, to create that many sub-topics. It is also beneficial to the reader if the topic is not fragmented into several stubs if they can be merged into one article as sub-sections.

This is merely advice, and please note that I'm glad to see another editor interested in Ugandan topics. --Ezeu 11:33, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for your kind words at the end of your comment but I totally disagree. the articles Martyrdom of Archbishop Luwum and Kagera Dispute could go into intricate detail about these pivotal events; I am sure that I have underdeveloped Ugandan history in my outline. As for the titles and comments, they are definitely tentative of course; the scholars that write the articles shouldn't have any problem with that. Have you seen how many articles there are on USA history? Do you know how many articles there are on the Civil War alone? Isn't Uganda an English speaking country? I would use that redlink outline as a flag to attract writers and students to start thinking about the subject involved. It seems to me you are campaigning for some kind of indefinitely permanent drastic underrepresentation of Uganda, English speaking Africa and Africa on the Wikipedia. Click on Category:American Civil War and count the articles. I clicked the first 3 of 9 subcategories and found over twenty articles and 6 subsubcategories! Don't you think Uganda deserves the same attention as the US? And since Uganda uses English, I wouldn't wait for fr:, de: or nl: to take the lead on these subjects! --McTrixie 12:17, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
I have contributed to quite a few, and started many of the articles listed on that page. If you took it that I'm "campaigning for some kind of indefinitely permanent drastic underrepresentation of Uganda, English speaking Africa and Africa on the Wikipedia" then you totally missed my point. --Ezeu 12:48, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
Well, sorry, I understand what you are saying; I have had some unpleasant experiences with VfD and Speedy Deletion people here in the past and am perhaps sensitive; I appreciate that care should be taken when writing. You say that you have written and/or started many articles in the area; I am someone who doesn't really have what it takes to write full articles at this point on the subjects involved. I often find that criticism sometimes comes from people who are perfectly obviously anticipating that I will be exercising a full academic presence in another's area of expertise; I would be worried too if it looked like a parvenu was about to create a massive amount of content. Which I am not. I am pretty good at taking lots of major companies, and various other subjects, that have no Wikipedia presence whatsoever and writing short articles that are good-quality and won't be difficult for an expert to make a true article out of. Viz, Kumba Resources, Petronet, many company articles at the Africa New Article board and Russian companies at the Russia New Article Board and listed at my McTrixie page. For a company like Kumba, which seems to me to be as important in South Africa as IBM or Coca Cola is in the US, to have no footprint whatsoever, is a problem. Easily solved by reading the company site, annual report, associated materials, and writing, linking and infoboxing to create a good-looking short article/long stub. So, to surmise, I understand, and when I receive criticism on the Wikipedia it is usually from someone who is expecting me to be writing full-length articles; I should be used by now to being treated like a professional but it takes me by surprise sometimes when I am doing "support work". --McTrixie 18:43, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Tagging articles

Any article related to this task force should be marked by adding African-task-force=yes to the

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project banner at the top of its talk page (see the project banner instructions for more details on the exact syntax). This will automatically place it into Category:African military history task force articles. Greatings Wandalstouring 23:57, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] African military history

Whenever you don't know something about Africa post it on our discussion board or ask directly User:BanyanTree. Greetings Wandalstouring 19:50, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

ok.--McTrixie/Mr Accountable 00:50, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Image tagging

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Thanks - Martinp23 20:38, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

Hi - the source (ie web address) is all that they need, then you can remove the nsd tags. Thanks Martinp23 20:59, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Endiama

Great job on the Endiama expansion! As the first writer of the article, I applaud your work. Also, just a great job overall with the Africa-related entries. Keep up with the good work!--Thomas.macmillan 16:09, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Banque de la République d'Haïti

Hi. Don't you think that the central bank of Haiti should be placed in the Economy of category, just like every single other country in the world? And don't you think that someone looking at Category:Banks of the Caribbean would miss this bank if it were not there? The purpose of categories is not to avoid redundancy per se, it is to create a useful encyclopedia. I must say, I have no idea what you are doing here. --McTrixie/Mr Accountable 18:36, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

Hello. I made the category you created, Category:Banks of Haiti, a sub-category of both Category:Economy of Haiti and Category:Banks of the Caribbean. So, since Banque de la République d'Haïti is already in the "Banks of Haiti" category, there is no need for it to be in both the parent cats as well. Someone looking at Category:Economy of Haiti will see Category:Banks of Haiti there, and someone looking at Category:Banks of the Caribbean will see Category:Banks of Haiti there too. Does that make sense? Good work on all the Caribbean bank articles, by the way. Jwillbur 19:02, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
Haiti is unique in that its central bank is not listed in its Economy of category. I am certainly not going to work on Caribbean articles; it is just too difficult. --McTrixie/Mr Accountable 19:04, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
Ah, I forgot that it was a central bank. I suppose in that case it can go in the Economy of category too. I will put it back. - Jwillbur 19:11, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Central banks and currencies of

I don't think the article of "Central banks and currencies of ..." is a good idea. It's just a union of subset of "List of central banks" and the navigational boxes by continent. Too much repetition is not a good thing. One thing I learn from work (software development) is that copying and pasting stuff is very bad for collaborative maintenance. The same mistake can be replicated. And if someone fixes one instance but not the others, then it would be contradiction within Wikipedia itself. That would be massive confusion. Such duplication should be kept minimal, to a small paragraph summary. --ChoChoPK (球球PK) (talk | contrib) 14:01, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

I guess I was trying to say things too quickly, so I copied and pasted stuff I previously wrote. Basically, "Central banks and currencies of ..." is a partial repetition of "List of central banks". I fail to see the purpose of this article. If the purpose is to put central bank and the currency together, "List of central banks" will do fine. And if we were to include "Central banks and currencies of ..." on every currency article as "see also", shouldn't we also include "List of central banks" on every central bank page, and "List of circulating currency" on every currency, and "List of countries" on every country? --ChoChoPK (球球PK) (talk | contrib) 14:13, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
Your contribution to individual central bank article is absolutely valuable. I'm just saying there is a better way to lay out the linkage between these articles. --ChoChoPK (球球PK) (talk | contrib) 14:18, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
? Please explain. And btw, I have removed the currency symbols from the Caribbean list for visual clarity and a clean look, looks like the Africa list. --McTrixie/Mr Accountable 21:51, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

I am proposing refactoring List of central banks so that

  1. List of central banks is in a table format
  2. List of central banks contains currencies

just like what you have done with "Central banks and currencies of ...". And finally remove the lists by continents and links from each individual currency article. If you wish to have more exposures to the articles of central banks, then I would suggest making a navigational box that links among different central banks. If we come to a consensus, I will help you. --ChoChoPK (球球PK) (talk | contrib) 23:46, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

Very well, point taken, as there a "List of Asian countries". May I suggest making both "Central banks and currencies of ..." and "List of central banks" tables with 5 columns: Country/territory, central bank/monetary authority in English, CB/MA in local language, website, currency. A small difficulty is that some of the bank article is named as English, like Central Bank of Cuba, while others are named in their local languages, like Banque Centrale des États de l'Afrique de l'Ouest (although redirects usually exist).
Another issue the the central bank infobox. There is a {{Infobox central bank}}. User:RedHotHeat developed it indepedently, but I just have a small problem with the "mint" and "printer" attribute in the infobox. I believe the production of currency is just a small part of operation of central banks. Such information is best left to the currency page. But for some reason, I got carried away, and that issue left unresolved. --ChoChoPK (球球PK) (talk | contrib) 19:29, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
Great. From my point of view, I would try not to worry about the whether the name of the article is the Spanish, English or French name of the bank; I never do; the title is often chosen to avoid confusion. Links can take a small-width column when the acronym of the bank is used, giving extra encyclopedic value in the form of the abbreviations. I think that the central bank acronyms should be there in each central article. I have never spent any time reading about mints and money printers; I suppose the people at the central bank are on the phone with them all day, and it seems deceptively important compared with the obvious tasks of setting interest rates and issuing press releases. More importantly, I don't really know HTML well enough to build this chart; the charts and diagrams I use are extant on English Wikipedia and German Wikedia (List of African stock exchanges, List of South Asian stock exchanges). I am learning as I go. --McTrixie/Mr Accountable 19:41, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
May I ask if there are plans to create the 5-column full chart alongside the extant List of central banks? I am not sure how you feel about this; I would just build the new article and let the old one just sit there; it is a very long list and doesn't seem to be in the way...I user the large type setting on my Explorer task bar, the 3 item list as it stands now fits nicely. --McTrixie/Mr Accountable 19:44, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
The {{Infobox central bank}} looks pretty good; I am looking forward to filling it/them out when I go throught the annual reports of the central banks of all the countries I work with. --McTrixie/Mr Accountable 19:50, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

Making List of central banks a union of the "by continent" articles is my intention. I can help on HTML and wiki mark-up. But I still don't know how you feel about mint and printer? And may I ask what is your screen resolution (for table width consideration)? --ChoChoPK (球球PK) (talk | contrib) 20:06, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

Are you suggesting that Central banks and currencies of Africa and Central banks and currencies of Central America and South America be removed from the Wikipedia? --McTrixie/Mr Accountable 20:08, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
The main List of central banks was not and is not created from a "union" of a group of continental articles; the main list of central banks, which is ungainly and clumsy, yet complete and authoritative, is used to create spin-off lists by continent, and by dollar, pound, English-speaking states, etc. I am definitely interested in producing an Africa list (done), a Caribbean list (done), an Islamic or Middle East list (proposed) and an East Asian list (proposed). It is physically impossible to use a single 214-item list to do any work at all on the Wikipedia. Portal:Africa, Portal:India, Portal European Union; each one needs to have a nice list that they can use to get their work done. It seems bizarre to think of de-encylopediaizing an important topic; yet, that is the sense I am getting from your comments. Am I wrong?--McTrixie/Mr Accountable 20:21, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

I have your talk page watched... Let's continue this dialog in one place. I agree that the List of central banks was not created from a union, and it is clumsy. And you have convinced me not to delete Central banks and currencies of Africa and Central banks and currencies of Central America and South America. So what I'm trying to do here to make List of central banks a true union of the lists by continents. --ChoChoPK (球球PK) (talk | contrib) 20:30, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

Well go ahead. It is not a priority for me, but it is definitely important that that list look good. --McTrixie/Mr Accountable 01:50, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
I hate to give advice, because people always figure out stuff on their own; I am looking at the central bank infobox, and there are a lot of banks with "governors", not "presidents". ........... I like the way the currency infobox on your user front page looks, much much better than the normal infoboxes as they have been usually made. Will a central bank box look this way? It's very easy to read; it's a better graphic design...... I am a beginner at finance, but I am thinking that there has got to be a webresource that can be used to either link or display some key economic data or interest rate that the central bank is reponsible for; I am not sure how to go about checking on this. .... I assume that "Image 1" is a logo; these central banks are all companies just like any other bank, and many people who work there could be on their way to or from a job in commercial or investment banking; it is a lot like a regular bank in that respect, and it is a good idea to treat central banks like a regular, big, powerful company even though it has a lot of governmental and quasigovernmental duties. ..... As I said before, I am no whiz at HTML, but I am thinking that I could do some work on going around to all the central bank pages and installing this box. I am a big fan of the infobox in general, I think it makes a big difference on how a page looks and how much appeal it has to a student or reader; the presence of the logo is an important part of this appeal..... The box you linked above doesn't have a boxy unpleasant square look; it is relaxed in its presentation and "action of visual presence". --McTrixie/Mr Accountable 02:13, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
I am thinking about the union of the central banks to one major page that people can spend time with making; if I knew HTML and boxmaking at this point I guess I would have started building this by now; money is as important as the bank in this one and I have no currency expertise. --McTrixie/Mr Accountable 02:23, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
And to bring your quote down:
I am proposing refactoring List of central banks so that
  1. List of central banks is in a table format
  2. List of central banks contains currencies

This is a very good idea.--McTrixie/Mr Accountable 02:32, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

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What about a navigational box for central banks, by region, like the ones at User:Chochopk/Template sandbox 1?, and a link to "List of central banks and currencies of ..." at each of the 4 regional currency nav boxes? --ChoChoPK (球球PK) (talk | contrib) 18:43, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

I'm guessing that you would prefer the official bank names to use in the navboxes; if so, I think that is a good idea. How far does it go, though; Roman alphabet; Chinese characters; Thai script...? In the case of Spanish, French and Portuguese I think that it gets confusing if the actual names of the banks aren't used. --McTrixie/Mr Accountable 20:23, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
Thought of something else; what presence should "Currency" have in a Central Bank article? Do you know of a central bank article that has a Currency section that is worth emulating? --McTrixie/Mr Accountable 20:29, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
And, I assume that for the Africa section of this project that you are using Wikipedia:Africa-related regional notice board/New articles. If you have an Africa-related question feel free to use the notice board itself or to consult User:BanyanTree. --McTrixie/Mr Accountable 20:42, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
I would really like to stay out of the issue of "Banque de France" v.s. "Bank of France". I don't really understand your second question. However, I am most interested in the navigation between articles (linkage). --ChoChoPK (球球PK) (talk | contrib) 22:45, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

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