User talk:Mariano Anto Bruno Mascarenhas/Archive 10

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

You have new messages (last change).
Archive This page is an archive. Please do not edit the contents of this page. Direct any additional comments to the current talk page.
This user is currently busy in real life and may not respond swiftly to queries.
Mariano Anto Bruno Mascarenhas/Archive 10 is taking a short wikibreak to get ready for exams and will be back on Wikipedia once the exams are over on January 15, 2007.
I am busy in Real Life. Email me for anything urgent. I may not be able to contribute to Wikipedia at least for some time, since I have to devote my time for a lot of activities including writing 4 more books, conducting medical camps, taking part in the Environmental Sanitation Programme, involve with TNGDA, prepare for AIIMS and AIPG, prepare for TNPG, in addition to the routine PHC works etc
Please click here to leave me a new message.

This is the talk page for discussion with J.Mariano Anto Bruno Mascarenhas. Please note that this User had once edited Wikipedia under the User Name "Doctor Bruno"

Please sign your comments using four tildes (~~~~). Place comments that start a new topic at the bottom of the page and give them ==A Descriptive Header==. If you're new to Wikipedia, please see Welcome to Wikipedia and frequently asked questions.

If something requires immediate attention, you can Email me.

If you are not able to see your messages in this page, please see the Archives

Archives

Sorted by Category

Sorted by Date

Old Account

New Account

Contents

My New Account

Doctor Bruno, you could have just went to Wikipedia:Changing Username to have the change done. That way you would be able to keep all of the edit history and contributions of your old account. - Mike (Trick or treat) 00:31, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
Got your reply. I don't know that it's possible to import your watch list to a new account. Maybe you should ask an admin about it? - Mike (Trick or treat) 02:24, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
I would advise you to just go back to the old user account. It's a much shorter and easier to remember user name and you'll have all of the feautures and customizations. You can change the header of your user page to read as your real name if you want to. - Mike (Trick or treat) 02:31, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

Old talk archives

Doctor Bruno - I think it would be a good idea for you to move your old talk archives to your new userspace to prevent confusion, and you can leave the "prevent impersonations" message up there. -  Mike | trick or treat  01:14, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

Oh, and I still would strongly advise going back to the old account, because you can insert this -{{User:1ne/Title|Mariano Anto Bruno Mascarenhas}} into your userpage and it will display your real name as the header. I really don't think it's a good idea to switch from an account that you had nearly 2,000 edits with. -  Mike | trick or treat  01:18, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

JJ

Dear Dr.Bruno, I have removed the paragraph from Jayalalitha's page as it contained many defamatory languages and it quotes many citations from Gossips. I updated in talk page of Jayalalitha quoting relevant Wikipedia policy on living persons. She is the political leader, criticisms against her should be related to her political actions or political life and not about her personal life. I have edited such defamatory words mentioned in many Indian actresses pages also. This paragraph has been removed many times and they add it again and again. Thanks for your edit in my page. Thanks Ravikumar I give below points to justify my edit in article about Jayalalitha 1) It quotes articles written by some foreign writers regarding defamatory statements which cannot be considered reliable. Moreover any edits regarding dating,wrong relationship,illegal relationship etc to be considered gossips unless it is confirmed by concerned person. If we allow this then all articles regarding political leaders/Notable figures will be flooded with Junk compalaints regarding their personal life. If we allow this some BJP people will write bad about Sonia Gandhi's personal life, congress men will write bad about Sushma Swaraj personal life. 2)Words like concubine needs to be considered personal attack. 3)Words like 'she has illegal child' etc are unsourced. If we ask source,may be that guy will give citation from some gossip magazine. I have also taken up this matter with bulletin board which resolves controversial edits on living persons. I hope you will agree with my views. Thanks Lravikumar 17:57, 10 October 2006 (UTC) I have given my comments in noticeboard. Please read and share your views. As suggested by you I will edit unsourced contents of particular section and will wait for consensus before editing controversial sourced edit. Thanks Ravikumar

Translation needed

Yes please...help at tawiki would be greatly appreciated. Regards, Ganeshk (talk) 16:20, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

RFA Vote

Hi, I have seen that you vote on RFA's quite a lot. But almost all of your votes just say 'Support' without giving any reasons. Could you please expand that comment and include the reasoning as to why you think the user should be an admin. This will make it easier for other wikipedians to know your reasons behind voting. Please don't take offence at this suggestion. Thanks --Ageo020 (Talk • Contribs) 17:35, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

Hi

Hi the citing process has begun on the List of famous Jats. The list is perfectly citable, please give comments of the deletion discussion board.--Vickop 22:06, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks

Dear Sirs, You may have guessed by now that I am new to wiki. Despite of all hostility I felt here, your presence was a great healing touch and a big moral booster for any new user especially an Indian like me. regards Shalendra Singh Singhshalendra06@gmail.com Read sir inplace of sirs

Hi!

Just dropped by to say that I really admire the way you strive for saving articles by new users. Although I might not agree with some of your views, but I really appreciate your attitude. utcursch | talk 09:40, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

Mall_sainthwar

One Google Hit Explained

  1. Please note that Indian History is not found in the net in the same magnitude as European or American History.
  2. Also most of the Indian magazines (dailies, weeklies) do not have a online version.
  3. Another factor is that the vernacular (Hindi, Tamil etc) magazines use different fonts and is not searchable by Google
  4. Another problem is the use of different spelling for the same name. For example, my town is referred to as Tuticorin, Thoothukudi, Thoothukkudi, தூத்துக்குடி etc. You can get the complete picture only if you search all these. Even then since most of the matter is not online, you may not even get one hit

If something does not turn up in Google, it does not mean that it is non-notable for the above reasons.  Doctor Bruno  00:36, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

With few exceptions, if something is notable, it does come up in Google. I have written much about obscure Poland-related topics, and rarely I couldn't point out to at least few English language pages (although I will be the first to admit there are exceptiona and Google test is not fullproof). Nonetheless the current sources and recation is rather dubious. We have one page with with evident POV ("This site is meant to serve as a platform for all MALL and SAINTHWAR RAJPUTS fighting to get back their past GLORY, DIGNITY and SELF-RESPECT. So come forward and join the battle against evils in society and contribute far the betterment of this RAJPUT COMMUNITY"[1])a terribly formatted non-encyclopedic wiki article, and what looks suspiciously like a sockpuppet vote stacking by new users/anons,; that does not fill me with much confidence. The best think would be if a user familiar with Indian language would act on my request posted on Indian noticeboard and could verify if this is indeed a notable subject or somebody's OR/hoax.-- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk  02:28, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

Please note that the Google test is totally useless for India related topics. I am very sure about this, but most of the europeans and americans are not able to understand this Then, I am very much convinced that the votes there are NOT SOCKPUPPETS, but made by persons from that community who are not able to understand the wikipedian rules I agree that it is terribly formatted, but that is not a criteria for deletion. When American villages with population less than 1000 can have an article, why not an article for a community which has more people  Doctor Bruno  12:39, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

As I said, my main reason for this AfD was to see if any Indian language editors can verify it is a notable subjet. I'll take your word for it that you have verified it; I'd expect the article will not be deleted if such verification is shown to other editors (note that the voting has been restarted).-- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk  16:28, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

Please note that most of the Indian books will be in Non-English and most of that will be offline. You should note that we cannot just like that go to a library and verify the books. We have our own jobs and family. Just because no Indian user could go to a library, a source cannot be ignored. Not every one is a sock puppet. Online Access is not common in India (unlike your country) and pretty costly. We pay around Rs 20 (that is the cost of 10 cups of coffee) per hour of Internet Usage. (Work out in your currency) Maintaining one account is pretty difficult. How can most people think of socks !!! (except for few teenage fanatics in cities who are rich enough to have computers and broadband access at their home). Your words few offline non-English books whose existence cannot be verified and and the poor quality of the article is just a final nail to the coffin give me an impression that your intention was not a healthy discussion, but getting the article deleted. If you really want to improve Wikipedia, give some time and hear the opinion of those who are new to wikipedia. On the other hand, if you are hell bent on removing articles regarding which you have no idea and you want to satisfy your ego that your AFD has succeeded, carry on... But remember that you are acting against the spirit of Wikipedia.  Doctor Bruno  14:13, 22 October 2006 (UTC) Lastly remember that I am in no way related to those Vishen Rajputs of Majhauli who got the area of Madhuban following administrative division of the Majhauli kingdom. If that had been the case, I would have given sources. I am an user from India who is fed up with SYSTEMIC BIAS in Wikipedia.  Doctor Bruno  14:16, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

First, I am non-English, and some aspects of Polish history are not Googlabe, either - but usually one can at least verify the existence of the phenomena, if not details. While India's alphabet may make it more difficult, I'd have thought the sheer mass of India's would compensate for that. And indeed: Poland: 23.35 (internet users per 100) * 40 (millions) = 934; India: 3.24 (per 100) * 1,100 (millions) = 3564. Source for stats: [2]. Thus India has more Internet users than Poland (thus it should have more Wikipedians, too). Indian language can be further discounted as a factor affecting this analysis, as no Indian-language website has been presented to support it (and don't tell me Indian wikipedians are to busy to use google...). Thus even for an meta:inclusionist like me this looks like a suspicious, unnotable topic. Verifiability would require that the anons present at least ISBNs for the books, so we can at the very least verify that those references exist (I'd assume those are used in India?).-- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk  14:41, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

First I would like to thank you for your sincere reply to my (?? arrogant) message. I am sorry if that had hurt. I would like to point out a lot of your assumptions are wrong

  1. Thus India has more Internet users than Poland. May be. thus it should have more Wikipedians, too Need not be. Most of the Indian Wikipedians live out side India. Compare http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Indian_Wikipedians and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Resident_Indian_Wikipedians and you will know the difference. Most of the internet connection that were counted are the ones given to Call Centres and Software industries. Net penetration in India is pretty poor. Please see http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Complete_list_of_language_Wikipedias_available Polish Wikipedia has 307391 articles. Hindi Wikipedia has 3039 articles. I am sure that you understand that your logic is not valid
  2. Indian language can be further discounted as a factor affecting this analysis, as no Indian-language website has been presented to support it (and don't tell me Indian wikipedians are to busy to use google...). You are again missing the boat. Indian Wikipedians can point out a site only when that exists. Unfortunately web sites for organisation etc are not common (as of today) in India. Do you know that of the 100+ medical colleges only 10 have websites. Many government departments don't have web sites. It does not mean that they don't exist. My argument is that you should not tell that some thing does not exist in India just because it is not found in Google. Please see http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Complete_list_of_language_Wikipedias_available Polish Wikipedia has 307391 articles. Hindi Wikipedia has 3039 articles. I am sure that you understand that your logic is not valid. Only when something is on net, it can be found by Google. 99% of Indian history is not online. It is also not searchable in Google Scholar. If you need to verify, you have to go to a library and then only verify. Also History books will not be there in all libraries. The nearest library I can think of finding such books in Connemera. You need to allot one full day to do that. That cannot be done immediately.
  3. Verifiability would require that the anons present at least ISBNs for the books This is another example of systemic Bias You will find it hard to believe that 95 % of Indian Books don't have ISBN. Indian Books have ISBN, but 95 % of English Books published in India and 99% of Non-English Books published in India do not have ISBN. Please see here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Mariano_Anto_Bruno_Mascarenhas#ISBN for comments from other users as well. That was an old discussion I have brought to the talk page for you to see
You make good arguments. As I said, I am an inclusionist and I tend to assume good faith. But I have one concern here. Given all your arguments, how can we apply the policy of WP:V/WP:N to such articles?-- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk  02:20, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

I have told that I am in no way related to those Rajputs. My concern is that Indian (as well as other regions where internet is not so popular) articles are immediately deleted when that does not turn up in Google. In many cases the editors search with the wrong spelling. In many cases the sources are not online. I am only opposing the stand "Few hits in Google, hence not notable, delete" taken by most American and European Editors who never VERIFY things.  Doctor Bruno  02:39, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

Certainly, Google is not 'everything'. And even English literature is not everything. Still, even if we can verify by calling them that those people exist, this does not prove either V or N of the article (in theory it can be a hoax by some Indian students, for example. I don't think it's the case, but how do we prove it is not?). Having an Indian editor living in a big city with major library of Indian language works would be useful...-- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk  02:43, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

I agree that we should have an Indian Editor to verify. But that can't be done in five day. Any way, I am sure that this is not a hoax. We can ask those "hyper enthusiastic" guys to send atleast some Xerox Copies / Scanned Images Doctor Bruno  02:48, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

Scans probably would be more feasible; a title page of a related book may be a nice temporary illustration for the article as well (until we can get photos and such). Good idea!-- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk  03:07, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

Sources

I agree that we need to use books more and websites less, but I think the comment you referred to — "The only sources to support it is one website and few offline non-English books whose existence cannot be verified ..." — meant that the particular books cited could not be found. It's difficult when articles are based only on a few non-English references, because this is the English Wikipedia; editors have to be able to check that what the editor is saying is correct, and shouldn't have to go to unreasonable lengths to do so. What counts as "unreasonable" is decided on a case-by-case basis. Cheers, SlimVirgin (talk) 09:32, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

I think the point to bear in mind is that this is the English-language Wikipedia, and therefore ideally sources have to be accessible to native English speakers, and reasonably available to people living in English-speaking countries. It's fine to make particular points using non-English sources and books that are hard to obtain, but to base an entire article on them means someone is likely to AfD it. SlimVirgin (talk) 09:40, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

WP:COI

Thanks. --Mereda 06:33, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

Edit summary

what's this supposed to mean? . I seriously could care less if you switched a "t" with an "o".Bakaman Bakatalk 03:41, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

Hey man

If I conveyed the impression that I was railing on you personally for something on Talk:Indian caste system then I'm sorry. That was not my intention.Hkelkar 04:15, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Elonka

Thank you very much for your support in my RfA. Unfortunately consensus was not reached, and the nomination was not successful. However, I do appreciate your comments, am still in support of the Wikipedia project, and will continue to contribute without interruption. Thanks again! --Elonka 10:59, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

My RfA (reprise)

Well, it's been a week now that I've been an administrator and I'd like to take this moment to once again thank everyone who supported my RfA, and to let you all know that I don't think I've screwed anything up yet so I hope I'm living up to everyone's expectations for me. But if I ever fall short of those expectations, I'd certainly welcome folks telling me about it!

Atlant 14:44, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

Regarding your queries on graph.

Hi, I have prepared that graph by dividing GSDP with population for respective years taken from Indian census site. Since website says that comparison cannot be made between states,I will remove the chart and add different citation to reservation in India article for particular point. http://www2.cid.harvard.edu/cidwp/088.pdf. Thanks for your research in this area. Ravikumar

Thanks

Hi,

Thanks for remembering, but I feel this won't be a good time to go for another RfA. I don't know if you have noticed, but I have re-started working on the janitorial side of Wikipedia today itself (after about a month of minimal activity). Also, I have been on a lot of Wikibreaks often, and because of other persisting chores, haven't been able to devote enough time for Wikipedia. I will again leave for another 4~5 day WikiBreak in the next week, which will be followed by another semi-break owing to my end-semester examinations. Hence, I don't expect to find the flow in my Wikipedia activities before December. Have a look at my contributions and you will understand why it would be a bad idea to go for RfA now. Its not that I have lost touch with what's going on in Wikipedia, or how things work, but just that my experience tells that people don't like RfAs where the candidate doesn't have recent record of contributions in fields he is planning about. Have a look at Deon's RfA going on now and you will understand the way this system works. Again, thanks for remembering. — Ambuj Saxena (talk) 14:32, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

Genius Wikipedian

U r really a genius wikipedian. I would like to appreciate u . Kindly accept a barnstar. Nileena joseph 02:30, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

Whoa!hold on

This last edit of yours:

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Reservation_in_India&diff=84201857&oldid=84201567

Is not borne out by the source. I read the entire article carefully yesterday and not once does it mention any of the statements in this diff.Please learn to distinguish between the text and your interpretation of the text. Discuss in talk page if you must.Hkelkar 08:05, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

Your question

Hi, sorry that I didn't see your note right away. I was editting my own talk page, so when I finished, there was no little banner to tell me I had a new message. Is it a personal attack? Maybe. I think you would find that there is room to interpret it as ill conceived humor. My gut suggestion is to let it go by unless you have a recurring problem with this editor. If that is the case, let me know, and I'll take a closer look. Sincerely, --BostonMA talk 18:30, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

I notice that the next edit was worse. I am leaving a warning on his talk page. not taking action per your request. --BostonMA talk 18:50, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

Articles you might like to edit, from SuggestBot

SuggestBot predicts that you will enjoy editing some of these articles. Have fun!

Stubs
Madras Medical College
Primary Health Centre
Indira Soundarajan
Indian Certificate of Secondary Education
Marmadesam
Pariah (comics)
MGR Medical University
Calcutta National Medical College
Aditya Karikalan
Venule
Medical education
Courtallam
Chepauk
Haldia
Palai
Board of Control for Cricket in India
Arteriole
Feroz Shah Kotla
Chennai Egmore
Cleanup
Kasthoori Raja
Kattabomman
P. V. Narasimha Rao
Merge
Tondai Nadu
Sara Lee
Other Backward Class
Add Sources
Fraser syndrome
Kingdom of Mysore
Sujatha
Wikify
Telugu people
Class (file format)
University of Madras
Expand
Madras High Court
Tirunelveli
Gynaecology

SuggestBot picks articles in a number of ways based on other articles you've edited, including straight text similarity, following wikilinks, and matching your editing patterns against those of other Wikipedians. It tries to recommend only articles that other Wikipedians have marked as needing work. Your contributions make Wikipedia better -- thanks for helping.

If you have feedback on how to make SuggestBot better, please tell me on SuggestBot's talk page. Thanks from ForteTuba, SuggestBot's caretaker.

P.S. You received these suggestions because your name was listed on the SuggestBot request page. If this was in error, sorry about the confusion. -- SuggestBot 20:02, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

Chola map

Hi, I have fixed the incorrect locations on the Rajendra Chola map and updated the History of Tamil Nadu article. - Parthi talk/contribs 00:34, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

A.R. Rahman

Hi. I noticed you keep adding that "Ilaiyaraaja was at his peak in 1992" on A.R. Rahman's article page. This may or may not be the case, but I think this information would be better placed on an article about the Tamil film industry, rather than on one artist's page. Other information such as the fact he won an Indian National Award for Roja, and has been called the "Asian Mozart" appear in other parts of the article, and thus have been removed. Thanks. Cookie90 14:42, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for your reply. The statement has been there for a long time, wasn't added by myself, which is why I think it would be better to put a fact citation needed request next to it, (which has now been done) rather than remove it completely. Personally, I think it is a little POV but, then so is the idea that Ilaiyaraaja was at his peak in 1992 - he was making just as great music before that, and even after that. As for nicknames. If you're referring to the Asian Mozart comment - that is not a nickname - it's a description in an article. Saying someone is commonly referred to, or known/called as the Asian Mozart, is NOT the same as saying one publication described him as such - which is how it is presented on his official website. Cookie90 08:00, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

re- I am relieved

Thanks for your message. Like you, it really annoys me to see articles about people, no doubt very worthy people, whose only claim to an encyclopaedia entry is that they have done their job. Now, if the job is Prime minister, or pro footballer or CEO of a major company, OK. But too many seem to be for midele to high-ranking bureacrats and professionals. I recently took part in a AfD discussion concerning a really gifted and highly popular teacher in America and that discussion got quite heated. However, as a really gifted and highly popular teacher myself (not modest) I had to vote delete. Keep up the work. Emeraude 15:49, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

Hinduism

Links for Wikipedians interested in Hindu content

Welcome kit

Register

Network

Contribute content

--D-Boy 05:24, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

Re: My corrections

Glad of having been of help. Regarding Image:TvMCEmblemColourWeb.jpg, I tagged it as {{fair use reduce}}, so that other editor reduces its size to comply with our fair use criteria. As for Image:Wikiblock.jpg, the screenshot also shows the browser and taskbar from Windows, so you could also add a {{Software-screenshot}}, although it is questionable. Anyways, good luck! -- ReyBrujo 00:51, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

Small favor

Hey Mariano, I was wondering of you could help me out with getting votes for expanding an article I started a while back. My old US Australia relations article is currently being considered for expansion by the Wikipedia:Australian Collaboration of the Fortnight. To vote, go here and scroll to the bottom.


Thanks man! Sharkface217 05:03, 5 November 2006 (UTC)


Great Doctor of good charector

Thanks dr...thank u very much. Its a great thing to see a genuine user like u in wikipedia. Ur greatness reveals in ur approach towards new users. A few guys are misusing this medium to humiliate and belittle new users. Personal attack is their hobby.I have tried my best to tolerate them....!What is the medicine for ignorance...? Please advise them..! Thanks.Nileena joseph 03:19, 6 November 2006 (UTC)


Re:Copy Right

At the time I had placed the copyvio tag on the text of Jeppiaar, it was an article and not a user page. It was only later moved to a user page by User:Kuzaar (see the edit summary here). After it was moved, the tag was not immediately removed so it looked like it was on the user page. ... discospinster talk 13:20, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

No worries! ... discospinster talk 13:36, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

Some help

I'd like to expand the Persecution of Christians section with details on the persecution of Indian Christians in Saudi Arabia (specific to their Christian identity). If you have some time, could you help me in looking for refs? Thanks.Hkelkar 20:42, 10 November 2006 (UTC)


Ranga

Yes.There is one more movie acted by Rajini called Ranga.Karathe mani and Radhika acted in that movie. As for as I remember 2nd Rajini's character in Billa movie is also Ranga. I have seen that movie around 5 years back.

I suggest we can jointly work with Prince,Arun Prasad to make Sivaji,Ilayaraja,Rajini & Kamal articles as Featured articles. Sivaji article can be taken first. Give your opinions and ideas by referring other Featured Biography articles. --Indianstar 16:49, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

Regarding HKELKAR arbitration

You must have seen HKELKAR arbitration case. What is your opinion on this? I don't agree with his opinions in some articles and taking extreme positions. But he has immensely contributed to India related articles within such a short span of time.


Can you update Rajini's punch dialogues in Tamil

I have started separate subheading called Rajini's punch dialogues in Rajinikanth article. Can you update his punch dialogues in Tamil when you get time?.(Still I have not learned typing comfortably in Tamil). --Indianstar 12:57, 14 November 2006 (UTC)



Vinod Valloppillil

See this article..! I cant see any sort of notability in this article..!Do u...? The article is about a non notable computer professional. But this article is still here because it is not created by me. * User:Tintin1107,User:Deepujoseph,User:Ageo020,User:Utcurschetc show no urgency to delete this article. If it were on a writer or an artist the above mentioned guys will put this for an AFD.  Nileena joseph (Talk|Contribs) 08:41, 18 November 2006 (UTC)


Hellooo....See the deletion discussion == Vinod Valloppillil ==! The Future of the AfD is as I expected. I hadn't heard his name. No keralite is aware about him.I hadn't seen a single line about him in any of the newspapers in Kerala. So I have suggested him for AFD. Soon he became highly notable to somebody.See somebody's power of canvasing. THis type of AFD will questions the credibility of Kerala related articles..! Nileena joseph (Talk|Contribs) 03:28, 23 November 2006 (UTC)


G. Bakthavathsalam

What a stupid AFD nom...? Padmasree winner is non notable...!!!!!!? Here in wikipedia there are so many such jokes to laugh...! Nileena joseph (Talk|Contribs) 18:37, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

South Indian Cinema Award

Dear Dr. Bruno: I thought we'd need experienced Wikipedians to discuss about the introduction or removal of a new barnstar — The South Indian Cinema and Music Award. Would appreciate very much you taking a look at the discussion and perhaps providing your comment here. Thank you, and best wishes, AppleJuggler 15:43, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

Rajkumar Kanagasingam

Though the Rajkumar Kanagasingam was posted by me to the wikipedia originally but wrongly as a newbie (and still feel so), it was actually created by Wackymacs[3] and subsequently shaped by others [4], [5], [6], [7] and [8].

After they all have given notability for Rajkumar Kanagasingam only, I started to shape the Rajkumar Kanagasingam.

The Daily News of Sri Lanka [9] is a Sri Lanka's National Newspaper since 1918 and the widest read newspaper in Sri Lanka and overseas.

Rajkumar Kanagasingam has published articles over the years and the following articles [10], [11], [12] and [13] are available online since 2002.

Though the articles have been written by the subject Rajkumar Kanagasingam, the facts he has mentioned in those articles might have well accepted by the populace without any complaint before he published the next article over the years and might have established some credibility within the Editorial circle as well.

I wonder why those articles can't be considered as Reference for Rajkumar Kanagasingam.

The Press Release in Daily News [14] could speak for Rajkumar Kanagasingam's association with leading Sri Lankan and international personalities and adding notability for Rajkumar Kanagasingam.

The US State Department's Office of Weapons Removal and Abatements "Safe Passage" Newsletter carried a news[15] on "Night of A Thousand Dinners" which was organised jointly by Asian-German Sports Exchange Program and PDIP, A Think Tank which was founded by Rajkumar Kanagasingam.

As the PDIP's Secretary-General, his activities in the available publications (on-line) will speak for his achievements.

All of his above attempts are substantial enough for a fair testimony for his notability among Sri Lankans and gives weight of his book German Memories in Asia which is about-to-be-released.

Ezine Articles may be "Vanity Press" but the contents in most of the articles by Rajkumar Kanagasingam are falling in the lines of well-researched and well-documented articles than those of mere Search Engine Optimization (SEO) ones.

After all his Ezine Articles are linking to his Book/Author Info. Page in AGSEP[16], which is an NGO and not to his personal or affiliated sites with ulterior motives of Ad Sense and click-gimmicks. As an author he is trying his fair attempt for his book without any hidden baits.


Some of the linkings might be Link Farms as I am a newbie of mere three months, but you should consider few of the internationally prominent people I have so far created and those have been left out in the wikipedia so far, especially Dr. Gamani Corea and others.

I have spent lot of my time to keep Dominic Jeeva from deletion with rest of my creations Arumaipperumal and Pandara Vannian which are not falling into the Link Farms.

The Internet is introduced after the mid nineties and still most of the news items are not falling into the web-world. By expecting reference for testing a person's notability with on-line reference materials might be some times misleading where the particular persons' references are mostly in off-line media archives.

Internet is mostly weighing a person's prominence based on the Internet availability in English and few other languages and not in all other world or local languages.

I don't have any objections if suitable and appropriate deleting Rajkumar Kanagasingam from wikipedia, but my kind expectation is at least wikipedia should attempt to have a survey among Sri Lankans through its available means whether Rajkumar Kanagasingam is prominent enough or not among Sri Lankans.

User:Rajsingam 2 December 2006

Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org../../../m/a/r/User_talk%7EMariano_Anto_Bruno_Mascarenhas_Archive_10_c165.html"